Red Letter Media

[deeman]

Since we are on a kind of "bashing spree"... i remember how Jay plugged Bone Tomahawk to be this gruesome movie that will leave an impression... well... if i were 12 perhaps...

 

[frozen_runner]

WTF are you talking about? Youtube and Facebook and all American social media censor way harder than anything that happened in the 80s and 90s. The Culture war is real, but this time it's the Left behind it. You will suck the Black lesbian dildo and you will like it.

He's saying you'll soon have that plus Bible-thumpers. And nobody wants that.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

He's saying you'll soon have that plus Bible-thumpers. And nobody wants that.

Bible-thumpers aren't nearly as bad because people had the sense to call them Karens. They never had the power to copyright strike videos or get jannies to clean up Wookipedia.

RLM became Rage for the Machine.

 

[indigoisviolet]

Youtube and Facebook and all American social media censor way harder than anything that happened in the 80s and 90s.

Spoiler: I disagree...

There were no general communication forums outside of your local community meeting rooms prior to the growth and accessibility of the Internet. For most people that meant Church, which is awkward if you want to discuss grifters hiding behind a thin veneer of faith cloaking their avarice in scripture. Secular Freemasons fared better with their blue skies discussion room, but they were more intent on exploiting the situation than liberating the masses. Universities had mostly been contained by the 80s, although there were exceptions.

Given the flavor of times The Message was therefore Absolute and Unassailable outside of kooky conspiracy theory mailing lists, which added your name and address to another type for monitoring. Some of the music fanzines cunningly embedded authentic information in between all the shock value bullshit, ditto absurdist publications from the like of diehard Discordians or the resurgence of SubGenius in the mid 90s. Alongside small press publishers dutifully printed the truth in batches of 500 copies, and of course The CNN Effect was still of acute concern to the military. It was there, sort of, kind of, but you had to really look for it, and then wade through the cultural baggage of the person communicating it to you. Then you'd dutifully write your own small press book and the cycle would begin again. Or you'd lend the book to your friend and they'd politely lose it because you were starting to visibly display concerning signs of paranoid type schizophrenia.

If you were really lucky you'd stumble across a well stocked library of dissenting books, which is where librarian unions got their opposition defiance disorder reputation from. But in general you had to trust the very last people on Earth you should trust for information about what was happening in the World. And whilst you were in their domain they had absolute authority and control.

What changed is you can bring all the odds and sods together in one place and discuss it relatively anonymously now, and together force a coherent glimpse of what might be behind it. You were pretty much on your own back then, and very susceptible to misdirection towards convenient scapegoats. Not that it's much better these days in that respect, but that's another discussion entirely. People demand an easy solution no matter what information era they are in, and get quite hissy that the revolution will not be televized streamed in 4K.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

WTF are you talking about? Youtube and Facebook and all American social media censor way harder than anything that happened in the 80s and 90s. The Culture war is real, but this time it's the Left behind it. You will suck the Black lesbian dildo and you will like it.

If you lived in the 90's and 00's you've been brainwashed that Bible Thumpers are an actual thing, it's a convenient imaginary enemy to make leftist feel like the underdog and give carte blanche for studios and creators to spread whatever debauched ideas they have to children.

What changed is you can bring all the odds and sods together in one place and discuss it relatively anonymously now, and together force a coherent glimpse of what might be behind it. You were pretty much on your own back then, and very susceptible to misdirection towards convenient scapegoats. Not that it's much better these days in that respect, but that's another discussion entirely. People demand an easy solution no matter what information era they are in, and get quite hissy that the revolution will not be televized streamed in 4K.

Accessing information is easier now, sure. But actually spreading it in any method besides ranting online is basically impossible. You can't make any piece of right wing media without being hardcore tranny cocksucker. Even YouTube now is a former shell of itself with the company successfully implementing newspeak.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

I stopped watching their reviews of recent shows a while ago, for the most part strictly Best of the Worst for me, they were always better at marveling and going over weird low-budget movies and instructional videos and so on than being critics of actual theatrical releases, I found some of their opinions on recent films baffling - not because they liked movies I disliked or vice versa but because I would be left wondering "what exactly are these wishy-washy fellas trying to say?"

yep, same. i just dont care for their stuff covering recent movies/tv. i find it so uninteresting to the point i tend to skip things like the more recent half int eh bags and their reviews of things like andore (doesnt help it is star wars and ive already given up on it) and i agree, their views on modern things tends to be muddles and misses the mark a lot. it is frustrating to watch as i know they should know better.

I get boosting independent films, but I just don't like them. Their film recommendations are largely miss for me.

agreed. i cant name a single modern movie/tv they have recommended that i have actually liked. some of the older stuff they talk about on re:review and BoTW i have liked, but i cant name a single recommendation from half in the bag which i have liked.

Since we are on a kind of "bashing spree"... i remember how Jay plugged Bone Tomahawk to be this gruesome movie that will leave an impression... well... if i were 12 perhaps...

i couldnt get far enough into it to tell if it will leave an impression. i couldnt stand the joss weadon knock off quipping every two seconds. i quit watching not even 30 minutes into it the dialogue was that bad. i hate 'quippy' dialogue.

 

[indigoisviolet]

Even YouTube now is a former shell of itself with the company successfully implementing newspeak.

That there was a window of opportunity at all is amazing, and is perhaps the anomaly that is confusing younger viewers. That little sliver of Internet freedom was unprecedented.

And yeah, it wasn't the bible thumpers themselves, it was the necon patriot warhawks masquerading as pious pillars of the nation then co-opting churches in an era when most citizens went to one every Sunday. It's why they still invoke Russia at the hustings, it wakes up the boomers and the remaining six silents, The Evil Empire, just like in Star Wars! Their frothing fundie cutouts caught all the slack and everyone naively cheered when they got humilated and were glad when they fucked off. And nothing real changed, we just thought it did.

Now it's neocon globalist warhawks masquerading like they give a flying fuck about niggers and queers then co-opting HR Departments because no fucker goes to church any more.

"It's the same guy holding up both puppets!!!" ~ BH And it'll be the same guys puppetering whatever comes next too.

That's why the only winning move is not to play.

 

[Tepes Thot]

Bible-thumpers aren't nearly as bad because people had the sense to call them Karens. They never had the power to copyright strike videos or get jannies to clean up Wookipedia.

RLM became Rage for the Machine.

Yeah didn’t Mike say something about that’s just Hollywood’s politics in this video?
I don’t see how that’s a good enough answer to hand wave the homogenized message from current-year media though.

1: Is it not art? Why do you want art to become a complacent, bland puddle of the same ideas repeated to infinity?

2: Remember the Hays code? Remember how many creatives hated that, and how it was ultimately a bad move for Hollywood? Why is nu-Hays code from the opposite side of the aisle ok? If conservatives ran Hollywood, and all you got was Daily Wire content, they would not be this passive about it.

It shouldn’t be controversial to say let other viewpoints exist in media.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

That's why the only winning move is not to play.

If you don't play you turn into someone's pawn.

Why is nu-Hays code from the opposite side of the aisle ok?

Because they don't acknowledge it exists. At least the Hays code was well known, rather than the sole knowledge of woke commisars.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

Because they don't acknowledge it exists. At least the Hays code was well known, rather than the sole knowledge of woke commisars.

well RLM are out of touch boomers whenever it comes to modern day politics. they have the same understanding as some left leaning boomer on facebook. to left leaning boomers there is only right wing censorship, there is the hays code and there is the McCarthy hearing, there is the religious right saying you can swear on tv. but they close their eyes to any sort of censorship coming from the left.

RLM still mostly buys into the mainstream view of american politics which is dominated by aging (and their young acolytes) leftist who still view America through a left leaning tinted lens of america 50 years ago. to the left it is perpetually 50 years ago, the right is censoring over fears of communism and to protect religion, women are oppressed housewives, and the left are the free speech underdogs fighting against the machine.

edit: spelling.

 

[TheHarbinger]

GenX lived through Political Correctness and aggressive censorship by the Moral Majority, which is something some of you darn lawn kids have yet to experience (oh, don't fret, it's coming...) Certainly none of the social critics on YT have the first clue what's attached to the pendulum when it swings back.

This never happened. They took 'offensive' material and put things like "parental advisory explicit lyrics" or had new ratings for movies like PG-13. Nothing was censored at all. It was just labeled by some group as being 'offensive' but never actually censored. Guys like Hicks, Rock, Kinison, Carlin, all did X rated sets on HBO and not network television. Some of the most violent and sex filled movies came out in the 80s and 90s. Pornography was heavily pushed by the mainstream and still is to this day. Hicks was never actually censored. It was part of his marketing gimmick that a lot of other comedians, radio show hosts, and rappers would use. You'd make a song or routine with curses or foul lyrics then complain that radio wouldn't play your song or networks wouldn't air your standup.

Were you even alive in the 90s?

RLM is trying to avoid taking a side in a corporate-generated illusionary culture war because they have already lived through two of them.

They don't want to lose half of their audience by stupidly getting political when their brand has mostly been apolitical. RLM is not some cultural battleground for autistic maniacs to screech about right and left wing politics and social issues. It's a place where a bunch of alcoholics review movies and old VHS tapes.

Only reason to make RLM a political brand is self sabotage.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

This never happened. They took 'offensive' material and put things like "parental advisory explicit lyrics" or had new ratings for movies like PG-13. Nothing was censored at all. It was just labeled by some group as being 'offensive' but never actually censored. Guys like Hicks, Rock, Kinison, Carlin, all did X rated sets on HBO and not network television. Some of the most violent and sex filled movies came out in the 80s and 90s. Pornography was heavily pushed by the mainstream and still is to this day. Hicks was never actually censored. It was part of his marketing gimmick that a lot of other comedians, radio show hosts, and rappers would use. You'd make a song or routine with curses or foul lyrics then complain that radio wouldn't play your song or networks wouldn't air your standup.

Were you even alive in the 90s?

They don't want to lose half of their audience by stupidly getting political when their brand has mostly been apolitical. RLM is not some cultural battleground for autistic maniacs to screech about right and left wing politics and social issues. It's a place where a bunch of alcoholics review movies and old VHS tapes.

Only reason to make RLM a political brand is self sabotage.

Except by being apolitical, it has made them unable to detect why modern media is bad. Rich looks at Fembusters--which he brought up--and immediately concludes it wasn't feminism that made it shit. When it absolutely is intersectional feminism that fucked that movie from the ground up. Gotta boost Leslie Jones because she's a Black Female actress and put her front and center. Gotta have Melissa McCarthy berate men preemptively because men are sexist for not watching a female-led movie. Gotta sexually harass the himbo because sexism or something. Gotta make the villain an incel because incels are devils. Same damn thing happened to Charlie's Angels with Kristen Stewart. Same thing in ST: D when they made Michael Burham Spock's sister and the key to every event that happens in the show.

Movies have been political for some time and it does effect show business as a whole. That's why we're saying they're out of touch.

 

[TheHarbinger]

Except by being apolitical, it has made them unable to detect why modern media is bad.

I agree, but this is still more of a problem of them just reviewing the latest movies and shows because it pays the bills. When you can see on their faces that most of the time they are miserable churning out a review of the latest sci-fi or capeshit goyslop. But then are laughing and enjoying themselves reviewing instructional VHS tapes on how to clean the gutters from your roof or throw a princess themed party. They could just stop reviewing every trash streaming show and hollywood movie. But then they might lose viewers.

There are plenty of apolitical shows and movies from the past and current media landscape that they could review. They are just at the point where modern media is saturated with leftist raging and nothing new is anything but garbage. And this is only going to get worse in the next several months because of another major U.S. election.

 

[indigoisviolet]

It was just labeled by some group as being 'offensive' but never actually censored.

Which in turn restricted national stockists for even slam dunks like In Utero, which heavily influenced future production choices.

There was censorship, it just happened higher up the media chain; products started arriving pre-censored: why do you think the mid to late 90s suddenly got so bland and toothless? Creative bands in particular found clever ways around it, but they were far and few bewteen, If it wasn't for the Internet taking off they'd have clamped down further. By that point it was out of their domain of control. Roll forward ~20 years and Mastercard is pulling the same shit online, just targeting different things. We're not telling you that you can't say what you like, we're just not going to let you use our financial apparatus to get paid for it, we're not censoring you at all.

I agree with the second part entirely.

 

[marvlouslie]

People often forget that it's largely Democrats who pushed for the big censoring of shit (video games, music lyrics).

 

[marvlouslie]

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO LAUGH AT THE SHILLS. NOT JOIN THEM.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

They could just stop reviewing every trash streaming show and hollywood movie. But then they might lose viewers.

i was curious so i checked it out. all of their most recent BoTW(except for one) has slightly more than 1 million views.


their most recent half in the bags tend to barely get more than half a million views. and only the ones for the really big time movies like star wars or indiana jones tend to get more than a million.


unless it is a very big name movie like star wars it seems they are mostly wasting their time talking about new movies if they want clicks. im also willing to bet that the vast majority of their patreon supporters care more about BoTW style content than the new stuff. im going to say that as long as they dont care about youtube ad revenue from the new stuff they would be just fine without it; their core audience will still be there.

 

[TheRaptorJesus]

Why else would they make this video.... I wonder.... 1.2m in 5 days compared to months to hit the same number. That Popeye video deserves more than 500k.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

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Why else would they make this video.... I wonder.... 1.2m in 5 days compared to months to hit the same number. That Popeye video deserves more than 500k.

i agree, their popeye video deserve more than that, i found it way more interesting than any of their new movie talk. but with something as big as star wars it makes sense they would make a video on it, they would be dumb to pass up on those clicks. but when it comes to things other than star wars, as my previous post pointed out, they could easily save their time for content that their fans actually want.

 

[I'm a Silly]

Bible-thumpers aren't nearly as bad because people had the sense to call them Karens. They never had the power to copyright strike videos or get jannies to clean up Wookipedia.

RLM became Rage for the Machine.

Karen is just another way for fags to virtue signal against White women; it's like how Scott Greer never mentions jews [even jews talk about jews in politics more] but instead blames Affluent White Female Liberals -- AWFLs aren't bible-thumpers.