Red Letter Media

[Johnny Clyde Cash]

It's worth noting that the 'starving kids in Africa' clip was in response to people getting visibly angry about how Ki Adi Mundi's birth age had been retconned on a Star Wars wiki to match the Acolyte's timeline. You can hit just about anything with the 'starving kids in Africa' rebuttal, even their own Plinkett reviews, but that's not the point. You can criticize anything, no matter how petty, but you have to present it in a way where people will care or they'll just shrug it off. The 'starving kids in Africa' rebuttal has nothing to do with how much something matters, because we all care about pedantic shit that doesn't really matter (if we didn't, this site wouldn't exist). The point is that if you can't present the point in a compelling way, you'll get tuned out by other people.

The guy they showed seething about Ki Adi Mundi's birth year on Wookiepedia being changed wasn't engaging. The fact that he had cancer doesn't change that. If we gave people a pass for the dumb shit they say because of medical or psychological issues they had, then all the tranny discourse on this site would come to a screeching halt really quick. I don't care what he has to say because he sounds worked up over something minor. He comes across as poorly-adjusted as a result. This is also how I'd describe a lot of the people who do rage-bait videos on Star Wars, many of whom deservedly have threads on this site because of the dumb shit they get up to.

I'll admit I'm biased on this discourse simply because I gave up on Star Wars a long time ago, and the people who are still watching this crap just confuse me. Even as a teenager watching Attack of the Clones in theaters, I could tell that the movie was losing me. Force Awakens was the last one I bothered to see in theaters and I haven't watched any of the shows, even the supposed good ones like Mandalorian and Andor. I think a lot of Star War's presence in culture is heavily astro-turfed and the last time there was organic, genuine excitement over Star Wars was The Mandalorian, and now that's gone. Star Wars used to be one of the most quotable and memetic series in fiction, but the only meme I've heard coming out of the Disney series is 'they fly now'. That's part of why the heated discourse over this from both camps is so weird to me. It's like the trench warfare of WWI where tens of thousands of people are dying over what's basically a crater-pocked stretch of mud. It's just not worth it.

George Lucas gave the keys to the franchise to a bunch of clueless retards who have no idea how to make content that appeals to boys, which has been a problem of theirs for a very long time. Anything good that comes out of them should be regarded as a fluke. Disney is more concerned with the gender demos of their C-suite than making good content, which RLM criticized in the ending of the Acolyte video. The key to getting rid of slop isn't getting involved in the ragebait cycle since all that does is enrich Hamburger Hambly and other clueless morons who have threads here. It's to just tune it out.

 

[Skeletron Prime]

If we gave people a pass for the dumb shit they say because of medical or psychological issues they had, then all the tranny discourse on this site would come to a screeching halt really quick.

I'm not giving dude a pass just because he had cancer, but it's been illustrative of the fact that even dyed-in-the-wool Star Wars shills are starting to see that this franchise is a creative dead end, even shills with that level of emotional investment. It's worth noting that the veil is lifting even for the most feelings-driven fans.

 

[Johnny Clyde Cash]

I'm not giving dude a pass just because he had cancer, but it's been illustrative of the fact that even dyed-in-the-wool Star Wars shills are starting to see that this franchise is a creative dead end, even shills with that level of emotional investment. It's worth noting that the veil is lifting even for the most feelings-driven fans.

I get that, and that is a good illustrative point to make. I'm more responding to the people who are outraged that RLM put a spotlight on him. "Don't you know that he's using Star Wars as a way to cope with cancer!? You can't make fun of him for caring so much about Ki Adi Mundi's birth year being changed!" That kind of thinking is retarded, especially if it's coming from people who post on here.

Did we watch the same video? I agree they  tried to acknowledge they aaren't much better. But immediately said, "well Kirk is more important than Ki Adi Mundi." When they about nerdy lore it's okay, when others don't they should be caring about starving Africans.

Kirk is more important than Ki Adi Mundi. One is the main character of a beloved, iconic TV show that's been a staple of American pop culture going back decades. The other is a bit character in the Star Wars prequels whose lore mostly comes from comics or books that no one's read. They are not the same.

 

[Tepes Thot]

I get that, and that is a good illustrative point to make. I'm more responding to the people who are outraged that RLM put a spotlight on him. "Don't you know that he's using Star Wars as a way to cope with cancer!? You can't make fun of him for caring so much about Ki Adi Mundi's birth year being changed!" That kind of thinking is retarded, especially if it's coming from people who post on here.

It’s to point out where his investment comes from, as opposed to just labeling him a man-baby because you did no research. He had the cancer as a kid and that’s why he got attached, nobody said he’s using it to cope now. The reason he shouldn’t thrown in isn’t cancer, but that he was the biggest defender of SW until this show, and now corporate shills are mad he left the cult.

They can cry about Star Trek to the point of Mike writing a fanfic season because he thinks he can do better, and “torturing” themselves with a show they knew wasn’t good, but he can’t finally drop the shilling and say “ok, this sucks can’t defend it”?
It’s ok for Rich to do cringe shit like fuck R2D2 cause “it’s funny!”
It’s ok for Mike to get pissed about Star Trek using holographic picture tape, and green plastic drum heads (or whatever they’re called).

It’s just dumb, feckless, hypocritical nose thumbing from some midwestern never-was-‘s who need to stick to the only content they’re good at.

 

[Love Is Blue]

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It got to the point of Mike just projecting onto the internet. Mike went from being the face of the red letter media company to being the butt of the joke in culture of memes. Mike used to be the best looking guy in the trio, becoming fatter than Rich Evans himself. It looks like he lasts out with the fans for liking Rich and Jay better. Mike could be coming down with an early mental illness.

alcohol is a hell of a drug

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Someone posted about Star Wars theory on the subreddit and it's going as well as you think.

https://reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/comments/1dpqgeh/the_youtuber_rlm_mocked_that_he_should_care_more/

"You know who else had cancer? Walter White."

"This guy used his childhood cancer to latch onto Star Wars to detach himself from reality."

"This guy became one of the most toxic creators in the Star Wars fandom."

So RLM reddit fans are just as oblivious to their own jackassery as RLM is. How fitting!

Star Wars Theory is such a nerd for finding comfort in Star Wars while he was dealing with childhood cancer. What a loser! Now let me bitch about how superior I am on reddit, defending the honor of some 200 year-old failed obese filmmakers who are picking fights with other content creators!

Also, if Star Wars is so unimportant, then why do these people even give a fuck about what someone on the internet has to say about it? These people are pointing fingers at Star Wars critics, telling them to touch grass or some shit, but they're bitching on the internet too probably doing absolutely NOTHING to save the world/solve child hunger/end wars. Projection much?!

What I see is this: One side is complaining about the bullshit corporate slop that's being served to them, and the other side is defending the slop, happy to gobble it down like little piggies. It's not toxic for someone to say that they don't want to eat the slop.

 

[Johnny Clyde Cash]

It’s to point out where his investment comes from,

Don't care. An overwhelming amount of the furries, trannies and fatties that get featured on this site picked up their paraphilias because they were molested or groomed as kids. They still get laughed at anyway.

Lots of people get cancer, and they find better ways to cope with it that aren't embarrassing. You are responsible for your own behavior online. If you do something stupid on the Internet you will get laughed at.

They can cry about Star Trek to the point of Mike writing a fanfic season because he thinks he can do better, and “torturing” themselves with a show they knew wasn’t good, but he can’t finally drop the shilling and say “ok, this sucks can’t defend it”?

I assume you're talking about Star Trek Galaxy? They joke multiple times in the video that what they're doing is stupid and dumb theory-crafting by nerds. They're completely self-aware about what they're doing.

Making a video where you're visibly seething about a minor character's birthdate being changed is stupid. It's possible to announce that you're leaving the plantation without making yourself look bitter. If he was better composed like James Rolfe was in his 2016 Ghostbusters video, he still would've had the shills yelling at him, but he wouldn't have looked like a loser in the process. How you carry yourself matters.

 

[LifeAlert]

There's a big difference between a child with cancer turning to entertainment for comfort versus a grown man ranting about minor changes in franchise lore, then putting it on the internet for all to see. He made the decision to cry about stupid nerd crap in an online video and he shouldn't be shielded from criticism or mockery because of muh childhood. RLM mocking the guy for doing that only shows hypocrisy on their part because they got their start and continue to make a living by bitching about nerd crap. They aren't making fun of the guy for having had cancer.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Don't care. An overwhelming amount of the furries, trannies and fatties that get featured on this site picked up their paraphilias because they were molested or groomed as kids. They still get laughed at anyway.

Lots of people get cancer, and they find better ways to cope with it that aren't embarrassing. You are responsible for your own behavior online. If you do something stupid on the Internet you will get laughed at.



I assume you're talking about Star Trek Galaxy? They joke multiple times in the video that what they're doing is stupid and dumb theory-crafting by nerds. They're completely self-aware about what they're doing.

Making a video where you're visibly seething about a minor character's birthdate being changed is stupid. It's possible to announce that you're leaving the plantation without making yourself look bitter. If he was better composed like James Rolfe was in his 2016 Ghostbusters video, he still would've had the shills yelling at him, but he wouldn't have looked like a loser in the process. How you carry yourself matters.

How you carry yourself DOES matter.

For instance, I don't like it when people are being blatant hypocrites.

RLM can claim self-awareness all they want. That doesn't erase the fact that RLM has made their bread and butter on nerd rage, and it's insanely hypocritical of them to call out other creators for doing what they do.

When you're a fan of something you really care about, the details getting overlooked is annoying. Fans have been doing this since the beginning of fucking time, but let's call out Star Wars Theory for doing it by conveniently placing a 10 second clip to be followed by some lecture about starving children in Africa?

RLM can eat a bag of dicks for that. Such a passive aggressive, smug, and pussy move.

Also, while Star Wars Theory complains about the current state of Star Wars, he actually CREATES fan content of stuff he actually wants to see, and he has a large fanbase of his creative content. He's a more creative dude than RLM, and that's a fact.

 

[Alabaster Disaster]

This would have been a pretty solid 20 minute Nerd Crew video

 

[Tepes Thot]

Lots of people get cancer, and they find better ways to cope with it that aren't embarrassing.

Take your tongue off the bottom of their shoes so you can read. The cancer was how he got into the series as a child. That’s what led to his shilling for the series.
They didn’t have an issue with that.

They’re accusing him of being part of the “this sucks” daily channels, and he’s not. That’s what they lumped him in for, and it shows they’re just making rage content without having researched or watched what they’re mad about. I.E. culture war behavior.

This isn’t about them “mocking his cancer”(which don’t happen), Jesus Christ, Reddit has better reading comprehension.

I assume you're talking about Star Trek Galaxy? They joke multiple times in the video that what they're doing is stupid and dumb theory-crafting by nerds. They're completely self-aware about what they're doing.

Making a video where you're visibly seething about a minor character's birthdate being changed is stupid. It's possible to announce that you're leaving the plantation without making yourself look bitter. If he was better composed like James Rolfe was in his 2016 Ghostbusters video, he still would've had the shills yelling at him, but he wouldn't have looked like a loser in the process. How you carry yourself matters.

Oh fuck off with this special snowflake bullshit. Just say you’re a blind fanboy and go, because you’re doing exactly what you claim is happening in this thread.

“It’s different when they act like no-life nerds and tard out over minor things”. That’s like a dude pissing himself in public but saying it’s ok, because he announced he was going to do it and that it’d be funny. No.

And it’s funny you mention that, because James Rolfe still got attacked and accused of being an anti-SJW, to the point people were bringing his wife into it. Which is exactly my point about guys like Theory and Jeremy Jahns.

 

[TATE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE!!]

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JFC dude, you've put more effort and energy into getting worked up over a video Mike and Jay whipped up in an afternoon and already moved on from. Stop it. Get help.

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

I tried of this autistic fighting. You people are insufferable. I'm changing the subject. How gay is Mike for Rich?

 

[Unnecessary Surgery Land]

I tried of this autistic fighting. You people are insufferable. I'm changing the subject. How gay is Mike for Rich?
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It's well established that Mike and Rich are lesbians

 

[millais]

The recent video is mostly unwatchable, but I can't dislike Mike that much ever since learning he saved Rich's childhood photos from being thrown away, knowing that Rich would appreciate having them back some day.

 

[Love Is Blue]

It's well established that Mike and Rich are lesbians

mike and rich are lesbians and jay is a mtf troon

 

[StarkRavingMad]

JFC dude, you've put more effort and energy into getting worked up over a video Mike and Jay whipped up in an afternoon and already moved on from. Stop it. Get help.

I'll only concede that I put more effort into my posts than they did with Space Cop.

 

[sneedem&feedem]

Making a video where you're visibly seething about a minor character's birthdate being changed is stupid. It's possible to announce that you're leaving the plantation without making yourself look bitter. If he was better composed like James Rolfe was in his 2016 Ghostbusters video, he still would've had the shills yelling at him, but he wouldn't have looked like a loser in the process. How you carry yourself matters.

The clip of Star Wars Theory is from a livestream he did. It wasn't a formal sitdown video like Rolfe's Ghostbusters video. It was a spur of the moment reaction that Mike had to literally dig for.

And another thing is that you fell for the sleight of hand that Disney shills were pushing and that Mike either repeated or fell for. The only reason that Ki Adi Muni's birthdate matters is because he is the literal source of information that the Sith have been absent for around a millennium.

The show has been repeated many times to take place about a hundred years before Phantom Menace. This directly contradicts what he says so much so that he wouldn't even be alive when this would have happened which is why his birthdate is important. The Phantom Menace literally hinges on the point that Sith have been inactive for so long and the Acolyte hinges itself on contradicting this very basic bit of lore.

It's also super fucking gay that a fan wiki is changing information to appease mega corporations and when someone points that out, they're the person who is bad and not the shills or mega corp.

 

[Nick Obre]

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Jesus Christ it's Max Landis

Max Landis time traveled to escape the accusations and became Mike

 

[Johnny Clyde Cash]

The clip of Star Wars Theory is from a livestream he did. It wasn't a formal sitdown video like Rolfe's Ghostbusters video. It was a spur of the moment reaction that Mike had to literally dig for.

No one put a gun to his head and forced him to livestream his reaction. That was a choice he made of his own free will. It's not 'digging' to find a video someone posted willingly to their own channel, especially a recent one.

And another thing is that you fell for the sleight of hand that Disney shills were pushing and that Mike either repeated or fell for. The only reason that Ki Adi Muni's birthdate matters is because he is the literal source of information that the Sith have been absent for around a millennium.

The show has been repeated many times to take place about a hundred years before Phantom Menace. This directly contradicts what he says so much so that he wouldn't even be alive when this would have happened which is why his birthdate is important. The Phantom Menace literally hinges on the point that Sith have been inactive for so long and the Acolyte hinges itself on contradicting this very basic bit of lore.

It's also super fucking gay that a fan wiki is changing information to appease mega corporations and when someone points that out, they're the person who is bad and not the shills or mega corp.

Lucas changed the age of the Republic from a thousand generations to a thousand years. If Lucas can't keep his own shit straight I can't fault some square-jawed dyke for not doing any better.

If the Acolyte was actually good then all of this would be a minor footnote and no one would care, which is the whole point they're arguing. If the show's good, none of the other stuff matters.