Red Letter Media

[heathercho]

What's the odds that only Rich Evans likes Jack Packhard in real life? Only Rich seems to have chemistry with Jack. Like they are friends outside of work. Something about Jack feels off. As in, he is not playing a character like the rest of the Red Letter Media crew. I don't think Rich Evan is anything like a character in real life. But Jack gives me a Linkara vibe. Linkara stopped being funny once you realize he was never playing a character parodying comic book fans.
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Josh is better.

 

[Pokemon Conquistador]

I kinda want to back having him thrown down a well now.

I took Mike's advice and watched 1899. It was pretty good, and I don't care that it was canceled after one season. Nine episodes was good enough for that story.

I'd heard 1899 had a lot of weird sex stuff, so I expected Jay to be the one to gush over it.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I haven't been here since the site got deplatformed, I come back and the last 5 pages are just retard shit flinging about how RLM has "changed"? Shut the fuck up and stop clogging up the thread with this bullshit.

The boys can't have ANY edge or youtube will demonetize their videos. They almost never talk about their patreon. They don't do sponsors. They need to keep the youtube gravy train running. And if that means they tip toe around saying retard or slut, who cares? They're not constantly deep throating the latest cape shit and that's good enough for me.

RE the catchup vid, I can see where mike is coming from with #makestartrekboringagain but at the same time it comes off the same way as boomers who get mad that their doctor has tattoos or the barisa at starbucks has blue hair and a nose ring. As a society we are moving away from formality for the sake of formality.

You used to not even be able to have a beard and work most jobs like 30 years ago. If you worked at Disney you were only allowed to have a fucking mustache. Hell a blue color job I worked at 15 years ago had a no visible tattoos or facial hair policy. Star Trek was overly formal because it was a product of its time when people actually acted like that in the workplace.

Now the standards are relaxed. So the characters reflect that. I will agree that sometimes the quipping is too fucking much and not everyone needs to be super chill and chummy. And the lack of stoic characters needs to be addresses. But wanting stoic for the sake of stoic just because you grew up with Picard refusing to thaw out until the last episode is lame too.

 

[bifftango]

I'd heard 1899 had a lot of weird sex stuff, so I expected Jay to be the one to gush over it.

There is some gay love drama forced in there to check that box, but it's only a few scenes. I just skipped past them, as it had nothing to do with the overall story arc.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

What's the odds that only Rich Evans likes Jack Packhard in real life? Only Rich seems to have chemistry with Jack. Like they are friends outside of work. Something about Jack feels off. As in, he is not playing a character like the rest of the Red Letter Media crew. I don't think Rich Evan is anything like a character in real life. But Jack gives me a Linkara vibe. Linkara stopped being funny once you realize he was never playing a character parodying comic book fans.

From watching Pre Rec and my limited interaction with Jack on Twitter back in like 2014 I want to say he is most definitely not playing a character. The booze may have exaggerated it a bit on Best of the Worst, but even that I'm not too sure about.

As far as nobody liking him? I dunno. I think Jack himself said that he basically met the gang by simply being part of the film making community in the area, so he may really just be there because he was decent at editing. I also believe they (Rich and Jack) said their friendship basically came about from making references to games/nerd shit that only the two of them understood while filming BOTWs.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

Red Letter Media is Mike, Jay, Internet Superstar Rich Evans and sometimes that guy Tim.

All the rest can die. Especially Josh.

Especially Josh.

 

[Pascal's Wagie]

Something about Jack feels off. As in, he is not playing a character like the rest of the Red Letter Media crew.

I like Jack. Every group of funny guys needs a foil: the guy that isn't funny.

 

[Product Placement]

I don't mind Josh when he is in re:View, but he is awful in Best of the Worst. In Best of the Worst he just doesn't have chemistry with the rest of the group, and many times he just repeats a joke someone else said like he didn't understand the joke, or he will take a joke and try to make it funnier but of course fails. He also seem very uncomfortable with anything that wasn't preplanned out, with re:View, he can research and come up with talking points before hand however with Best of the Worst he doesn't have that luxury and it shows.

I don't care where he is politically if he works in the video but he just doesn't.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I like Jack. Every group of funny guys needs a foil: the guy that isn't funny.

I want to remind everyone that Jack is a classically trained Clown.

 

[Comicsgeist]

I haven't been here since the site got deplatformed, I come back and the last 5 pages are just retard shit flinging about how RLM has "changed"? Shut the fuck up and stop clogging up the thread with this bullshit.

The boys can't have ANY edge or youtube will demonetize their videos. They almost never talk about their patreon. They don't do sponsors. They need to keep the youtube gravy train running. And if that means they tip toe around saying retard or slut, who cares? They're not constantly deep throating the latest cape shit and that's good enough for me.

RE the catchup vid, I can see where mike is coming from with #makestartrekboringagain but at the same time it comes off the same way as boomers who get mad that their doctor has tattoos or the barisa at starbucks has blue hair and a nose ring. As a society we are moving away from formality for the sake of formality.

You used to not even be able to have a beard and work most jobs like 30 years ago. If you worked at Disney you were only allowed to have a fucking mustache. Hell a blue color job I worked at 15 years ago had a no visible tattoos or facial hair policy. Star Trek was overly formal because it was a product of its time when people actually acted like that in the workplace.

Now the standards are relaxed. So the characters reflect that. I will agree that sometimes the quipping is too fucking much and not everyone needs to be super chill and chummy. And the lack of stoic characters needs to be addresses. But wanting stoic for the sake of stoic just because you grew up with Picard refusing to thaw out until the last episode is lame too.

Standing on the bridge of the Enterprise is and always was analogous to any naval vessel, not a Starbucks. God but I miss the days when series like these were written by people that had actually served, and I don't mean have or should be serving chai soy lattes.
You can have humor in war, conflicts, moments of human weakness etc but none of those belong on the bridge of a ship.
I watched Tom Hanks in that little seen naval drama Greyhound a while back and it's an exemplary portrait of a captain suffering the stresses, physical, emotional and moral in a battle.
Weaknesses belongs in the privacy of his cabin, jokes in the mess and the chain of command is sacrosanct, there are no temper tantrums on the bridge.
Mike was absolutely right about how an utter lack of verisimilitude can disengage the viewers because they may not quite know why the show doesn't work, but their brain does, and it's noticing that all of these fuckwits should be running a collectivist vegan cafe, not a starship.

 

[DankSmoker]

I want to remind everyone that Jack is a classically trained Clown.

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He picked it up from his uncle John, who he recalls fondly.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

Weaknesses belongs in the privacy of his cabin, jokes in the mess and the chain of command is sacrosanct, there are no temper tantrums on the bridge.

Personally, I don't mind if there's a little familiarity or small talk on the bridge if its in the massive downtime between adventures. But you need to know when its appropriate to shoot the shit with the guy pretending to work behind you and when you need to shut the fuck up and act professional.

Day 26 of charting some nebula? Yeah, chat up ensign Roe about the cardies. Captain's talking? Shut the fuck up. Foreign diplomat on the bridge? Shut the fuck up. Someone on the viewscreen? Shut the fuck up.

I also refuse to acknowledge the existence of a "night shift" on a star ship.

 

[khaine]

I also refuse to acknowledge the existence of a "night shift" on a star ship.

 

[BScCollateral]

I think it all comes down to "Do I believe these guys would be given control of billions of dollars of spacecraft?"
I suspect, but cannot prove, that Gerry Anderson's UFO took a lot of inspiration from British films about World War II. There's often scenes of people in control rooms relaxed and kind of screwing around, then an alert sounds and BAM they're on it.

 

[BubbleButt]

Personally, I don't mind if there's a little familiarity or small talk on the bridge if its in the massive downtime between adventures. But you need to know when its appropriate to shoot the shit with the guy pretending to work behind you and when you need to shut the fuck up and act professional.

Day 26 of charting some nebula? Yeah, chat up ensign Roe about the cardies. Captain's talking? Shut the fuck up. Foreign diplomat on the bridge? Shut the fuck up. Someone on the viewscreen? Shut the fuck up.

I also refuse to acknowledge the existence of a "night shift" on a star ship.

None of the retards writing this dreck have ever been on or spoken to someone that has been on a battleship at war time.

They lack honor and respect.

 

[Jack Awful]

From watching Pre Rec and my limited interaction with Jack on Twitter back in like 2014 I want to say he is most definitely not playing a character. The booze may have exaggerated it a bit on Best of the Worst, but even that I'm not too sure about.

As far as nobody liking him? I dunno. I think Jack himself said that he basically met the gang by simply being part of the film making community in the area, so he may really just be there because he was decent at editing. I also believe they (Rich and Jack) said their friendship basically came about from making references to games/nerd shit that only the two of them understood while filming BOTWs.

I like Jack.
His optimism and enthusiasm is a fun foil to the dry, subdued, and often cynical humor the rest have (which is also funny).

 

[Brain Problems]

I kinda want to back having him thrown down a well now.

I took Mike's advice and watched 1899. It was pretty good, and I don't care that it was canceled after one season. Nine episodes was good enough for that story.

I think my issue with 1899 was that it felt like they were trying to a pull a "2deep4u" story with lots of Abrams/Lindelof mystery-boxing and I generally disliked every episode doing some sort of miniature deep dive in the backgrounds of characters I didn't really give a fuck about. The setting was great, everything looked really good, and there was some fun to be had but overall it would have been better served with a shorter season and tighter story, maybe mini-series style with a few hour and a half long episodes.

The Flanagan worship just has me totally confused because he is a perfectly competent filmmaker but everything I've ever seen him do is technically above-average with the odd flash of greatness but generally just middle-of-the-road overall. Maybe that's all it takes to get positive attention though, not being obviously shitty like 99% of media.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

Standing on the bridge of the Enterprise is and always was analogous to any naval vessel, not a Starbucks. God but I miss the days when series like these were written by people that had actually served, and I don't mean have or should be serving chai soy lattes.
You can have humor in war, conflicts, moments of human weakness etc but none of those belong on the bridge of a ship.
I watched Tom Hanks in that little seen naval drama Greyhound a while back and it's an exemplary portrait of a captain suffering the stresses, physical, emotional and moral in a battle.
Weaknesses belongs in the privacy of his cabin, jokes in the mess and the chain of command is sacrosanct, there are no temper tantrums on the bridge.
Mike was absolutely right about how an utter lack of verisimilitude can disengage the viewers because they may not quite know why the show doesn't work, but their brain does, and it's noticing that all of these fuckwits should be running a collectivist vegan cafe, not a starship.

I just think it's funny that he treats it so seriously when the original series had stuff like the Klingon fight and obvious prosthetics. DON'T pretend that TNG also didn't have some of that stuff. It's Sci-Fi by an extremely optimistic Brit, not a War series. I don't even disagree that the writing could be better in the newer series, cause dear God it's awful; but paragraphs like yours are just ironic in hindsight cause Star Trek is considered crossover material with X-Men, Transformers, Aliens and Green Lantern, nowadays. Forest for the trees, etc.

 

[Flexo]

Now the standards are relaxed. So the characters reflect that. I will agree that sometimes the quipping is too fucking much and not everyone needs to be super chill and chummy. And the lack of stoic characters needs to be addresses. But wanting stoic for the sake of stoic just because you grew up with Picard refusing to thaw out until the last episode is lame too.

Oh yeah, because Star Trek was always at its best when it reflected the current culture...

/sarc

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I like Jack.
His optimism and enthusiasm is a fun foil to the dry, subdued, and often cynical humor the rest have (which is also funny).

Jack is Jack. I don't hate him, which has to be evident since I watched Pre Rec, but I can see why others don't particularly care for him either.

I recently looked at his Twitter though, and I don't know if I just got older or he got more cringe but he seems to be going full bore into being a reddit-esque faggot since joining Escapist.