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[Newman's Lovechild]

It was the Holiday Special flopping HARD that snapped Lucas out of it and got him to buckle down and really focus on getting Empire Strikes Back to be the best movie it could possibly be. (Yes, I am saying had the holiday special not happened, we would have had a crap ESB movie.)

Now we just got to figure out how Mr Plinkett made the Holiday Special flop

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

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I'm just going to say I find the idea that Mike never saw Space Jam hilarious, considering he grew up in Northern Illinois. I feel like the simple proximity to Jordan/The Bulls would have made seeing it at some point inevitable.

Also this got recommended to me on youtube.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Prediction: over the next 5/10/20/50 years the CCP will have autistic debates over their film industry. The Chinese film industry does not need to aim for a global audience, it is large enough internally, and it will lead to a lot of schlock like we have in the West but ten times worse. The CCP will have actual debates over whether or not Wolf Warrior MCLXXIII is a good influence on the country because of how schlocky it is.

I would also say the American industry is also shifting towards domestic... domestic being making SJW movies. Sure, movies ten years ago were Michael Bay dumb trash to appeal to the International (i.e. Chinese) market, but the low characterization and simple stories were to keep it easy to translate into other languages. Now that China has shut out Hollywood, Hollywood can now focus on appealing to the domestic audience. The problem is SJW activists are the ones that give the feedback Hollywood wants, which is why more movies are adopting the Fembusters school of marketing.

So, I'm not sure that CCP movies will actually be worse than Hollywood movies.

 

[Travoltron]

Aren't there plenty of Chinese films that are straight up propoganda porn featuring the evil Japs raping Chinese women and the noble Chinaman murdering them all?

Yes. Straight up revisionist history.

 

[Preferred Penne]

New Re:View up, this time, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, featuring Jay and Rich:https://youtube.com/watch?v=RgnN62S02xg

Nothing like watching a depressed cynical alcoholic hanging out with his wacky cartoon pal.

The movie was pretty good too.

 

[Flexo]

Nothing like watching a depressed cynical alcoholic hanging out with his wacky cartoon pal.

The movie was pretty good too.

Mike wasn't in this episode.

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

Nothing like watching a depressed cynical alcoholic hanging out with his wacky cartoon pal.

The movie was pretty good too.

Rich doesn't drink. He's depression is from living.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

New Re:View up, this time, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, featuring Jay and Rich:https://youtube.com/watch?v=RgnN62S02xg

I never knew about the proof of concept for a 3d-animation Roger Rabbit. Now I'm saddened that I know it exists.

I sortof hope they talk about the Chip n' Dale movie at least a little more as an aside. I knew literally nothing about that movie, because I don't give a shit about anything Disney, but if the original sonic movie design is not only a gag but a plot-relevant character, that's almost novel enough to make up for what I'm sure is mostly a movie filled with dated references and REMEMBER THIS? gags. And, hopefully, background cameos by the clockwork orange rapists.

 

[kukkia]

I should have been more specific- their globally successful films are artsy. It's not National Socialism's Polish Vacation starring Johann von Gerrghenswittebach that gets known outside of Europe, it's the Hunt, Antichrist, Life is Beautiful, etc.

Chinese films have ambitions of American quality but they end up looking like those Turkish or Russian war films- they're bombastic, they're chauvinistic, they're unapologetic, but they look like a Medieval TV show that would have been on free TV in the mid-2000's. Everything is green screened, and it's some shit CGI they got over there. Their comedies are hugely successful domestically, but no Westerner wants to see Chinese films anymore. The age of the Hong Kong flick died when China took over the city.

Prediction: over the next 5/10/20/50 years the CCP will have autistic debates over their film industry. The Chinese film industry does not need to aim for a global audience, it is large enough internally, and it will lead to a lot of schlock like we have in the West but ten times worse. The CCP will have actual debates over whether or not Wolf Warrior MCLXXIII is a good influence on the country because of how schlocky it is.

All of the genuinely talented Chinese filmmakers were in Hong Kong and since the Chinese took over they've mostly retired, left the country, or switched to phoning it in and making boring shit that won't get them in trouble. China basically killed their shot at having an internationally relevant film industry. As you mentioned, though, they probably don't care.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

I would also say the American industry is also shifting towards domestic... domestic being making SJW movies. Sure, movies ten years ago were Michael Bay dumb trash to appeal to the International (i.e. Chinese) market, but the low characterization and simple stories were to keep it easy to translate into other languages. Now that China has shut out Hollywood, Hollywood can now focus on appealing to the domestic audience. The problem is SJW activists are the ones that give the feedback Hollywood wants, which is why more movies are adopting the Fembusters school of marketing.

So, I'm not sure that CCP movies will actually be worse than Hollywood movies.

I think the American industry is definitely shifting towards making more SJW movies. I think the reason for this is because SJW activists are the ones giving the feedback that Hollywood wants. With China shutting out Hollywood, Hollywood now has to focus on appealing to the domestic audience. And I think SJW movies are doing just that. I agree that the American industry is shifting towards domestic films. I think this is a good thing because it means that filmmakers can focus on telling stories that resonate with American audiences. I think the problem with SJW films is that they often sacrifice interesting plot and complex characters for progressive messages. This can make for preachy and heavy-handed films that are more interested in promoting an agenda than telling a good story.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I think the American industry is definitely shifting towards making more SJW movies. I think the reason for this is because SJW activists are the ones giving the feedback that Hollywood wants. With China shutting out Hollywood, Hollywood now has to focus on appealing to the domestic audience. And I think SJW movies are doing just that. I agree that the American industry is shifting towards domestic films. I think this is a good thing because it means that filmmakers can focus on telling stories that resonate with American audiences. I think the problem with SJW films is that they often sacrifice interesting plot and complex characters for progressive messages. This can make for preachy and heavy-handed films that are more interested in promoting an agenda than telling a good story.

For every Joker, there's 5 MCU-like movies that have to conform to the Byzantine intersectional list.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

For every Joker, there's 5 MCU-like movies that have to conform to the Byzantine intersectional list.

It seems like for every truly great, original movie that comes out these days, there are five others that feel the need to pander to some sort of checklist. I'm not saying that all movies should be dark and edgy like Joker was, but it's frustrating to see so many films feeling the need to stick to formula in order to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. Sometimes a little risk-taking is refreshing, and can even pay off big time.

 

[khaine]

So inspired by the re:view I watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I haven't seen it since I was a kid. Its still great. All of the effects, everything looks amazing. I didn't realise it was made by Disney, which is particularly hilarious since toon-town and toon logic is based primarily on Warner bros stuff.

I also didn't realise Kathleen Kennedy was involved in this. One thing I don't get, she in one way or another was involved in many of the greatest movies to come out of the 80s, yet she seems to have completely fucked Star Wars in the 2020s. I don't understand how both of those things are true.

 

[Flexo]

I also didn't realise Kathleen Kennedy was involved in this. One thing I don't get, she in one way or another was involved in many of the greatest movies to come out of the 80s, yet she seems to have completely fucked Star Wars in the 2020s. I don't understand how both of those things are true.

She stood in the shadow of greater men and learned nothing.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

I think the American industry is definitely shifting towards making more SJW movies. I think the reason for this is because SJW activists are the ones giving the feedback that Hollywood wants. With China shutting out Hollywood, Hollywood now has to focus on appealing to the domestic audience. And I think SJW movies are doing just that. I agree that the American industry is shifting towards domestic films. I think this is a good thing because it means that filmmakers can focus on telling stories that resonate with American audiences. I think the problem with SJW films is that they often sacrifice interesting plot and complex characters for progressive messages. This can make for preachy and heavy-handed films that are more interested in promoting an agenda than telling a good story.

Do you realize "Jew run Hollywood filling my entertainment with liberal ideology" has been a thing for decades and decades and decades?

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Do you realize "Jew run Hollywood filling my entertainment with liberal ideology" has been a thing for decades and decades and decades?

Yes, I do realize that "Jew run Hollywood filling my entertainment with liberal ideology" has been a thing for decades and decades and decades. And it's not just Hollywood; the entire entertainment industry is filled with liberals who push their agenda through the movies, TV shows, music, etc. that we consume on a daily basis. But here's the thing: I don't have a problem with it. In fact, I welcome it. I'm a Jewish woman myself, and I grew up watching all sorts of great Jewish-themed entertainments like Fiddler on the Roof and The Golden State Warriors . As someone who was raised in a very conservative household (my parents are Holocaust survivors), these films/shows helped me to understand other people's perspectives and learn about different cultures outside of my own insular community. They also instilled in me values like tolerance, empathy, compassion - values which I carry with me to this day as an adult Jew living in America. So when you say that you're tired of seeing "liberal ideology" being pushed onto you via your entertainment choices... well frankly speaking sir/ma'am... tough luck! Because there are plenty of us out here who appreciate having our worldviews challenged from time to time by art & media created by those pesky Jews whom you so despise

(joke)

 

[Product Placement]

So inspired by the re:view I watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I haven't seen it since I was a kid. Its still great. All of the effects, everything looks amazing. I didn't realise it was made by Disney, which is particularly hilarious since toon-town and toon logic is based primarily on Warner bros stuff.

I also didn't realise Kathleen Kennedy was involved in this. One thing I don't get, she in one way or another was involved in many of the greatest movies to come out of the 80s, yet she seems to have completely fucked Star Wars in the 2020s. I don't understand how both of those things are true.

I mean with Kathleen Kennedy really don't how much is her fault or Disney's, I'd image Solo firing the directors and reshooting the movie is on her but something like the over saturation of Star Wars is for sure more on Disney.

But even before Star Wars she produced a number of duds like The Last Airbender, Milk Money, The Girl on the Train and Congo. But the good movies in her credits does out number the bad ones.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

One thing I don't get, she in one way or another was involved in many of the greatest movies to come out of the 80s

That coffee wasn't going to fetch itself.

 

[Mola Ram]

I mean with Kathleen Kennedy really don't how much is her fault or Disney's

I'd say plenty of the franchise's current sorry condition is her fault. Plenty.

 

[HeyYou]

I mean with Kathleen Kennedy really don't how much is her fault or Disney's, I'd image Solo firing the directors and reshooting the movie is on her but something like the over saturation of Star Wars is for sure more on Disney.

But even before Star Wars she produced a number of duds like The Last Airbender, Milk Money, The Girl on the Train and Congo. But the good movies in her credits does out number the bad ones.

Sources mentioned at the time that it was also her that ultimately ordered the rewrites and reshoots of Kenobi, and look what that got us. I'd say her inability to let people make the movies and shows they want to make (outside of Rian Johnson for some fucking reason) is a huge reason why Star Wars is in the state that it is. It is writing by committee at its absolute worst.