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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%

  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%

  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%

  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%

  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%

  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%

  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%

  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%

  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%

  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%
  • Total voters
    1,073
Saul Goodman Fan said:
The RLM subreddit isn’t a fan of the “punching down” against Wil Wheaton
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I was going to say how it isn't punching down because Wil Wheaton is a rich Hollywood celebrity, but I googled it and he has an estimated net worth of $1 million while Mike has $15 million.

Punching down is such a retarded term. You should be able to criticize anyone.
 
byuu said:
These things are always complete bullshit guesses.
Spoony is worth 1.9 million dollars according to some random googled site.
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Of course! Haven't you seen some of those rare board games in his videos?

(Nah, I'm joshing ya.)
 
It’s refreshing that the RLM fellows are still just regular nerds. It’s seems like all "nerds" nowadays have become obsessed with stuff like extremely local leftist politics, or being the pronoun police or whatever and are obnoxious about it too but the RLMs are a throwback to the classic “movie nerds” you knew in high school/college who were actually fun to hang out with and not insufferable.
 
Jack Awful said:
Punching down is such a retarded term. You should be able to criticize anyone.
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It's also only punching down when it's happening to someone on their side, but when CNN doxxes some idiot for making a wrestling meme on Reddit it's protecting democracy.
 
Rich is completely correct in regards to this being how Star Wars fans have been feeling. The bad shit in the expanded universe could always be disregarded because nobody really cared about it or wanted anything to do with it, the prequels were flawed but it still made sense as a story. The sequel trilogy is completely irredeemable, and you can't ignore it because Disney and 40 year old manchildren won't acknowledge how franchise ruining they are.

Force Awakens made me upset, Last Jedi had me give up the franchise, I haven't interacted with anything related to star wars since 2016. It's dead, I'm done.
 
Übertroon said:
Rich is completely correct in regards to this being how Star Wars fans have been feeling. The bad shit in the expanded universe could always be disregarded because nobody really cared about it or wanted anything to do with it, the prequels were flawed but it still made sense as a story. The sequel trilogy is completely irredeemable, and you can't ignore it because Disney and 40 year old manchildren won't acknowledge how franchise ruining they are.

Force Awakens made me upset, Last Jedi had me give up the franchise, I haven't interacted with anything related to star wars since 2016. It's dead, I'm done.
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I was ok with Force Awakens (although I never went back for a second viewing, which was never true of a Star Wars movie before that), but I'm with you on Last Jedi. As I say to everyone who keeps trying to get me to watch The Mandalorian: "You only get to shit in my popcorn once."

It's why Mike's reaction to Picard, while understandable, is also a little odd. You'd think he'd have wised up after Discovery, if not Into Darkness.
 
Mola Ram said:
I was ok with Force Awakens (although I never went back for a second viewing, which was never true of a Star Wars movie before that), but I'm with you on Last Jedi. As I say to everyone who keeps trying to get me to watch The Mandalorian: "You only get to shit in my popcorn once."

It's why Mike's reaction to Picard, while understandable, is also a little odd. You'd think he'd have wised up after Discovery, if not Into Darkness.
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I think it's because Picard directly fucked with something he watched from his childhood rather than being a seperate continuity or series like Discovery. Picard basically shits on tng fans
 
Doctor of Autism said:
I think it's because Picard directly fucked with something he watched from his childhood rather than being a seperate continuity or series like Discovery. Picard basically shits on tng fans
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Yeah, I can understand that. There's a big difference between "shitty Star Trek show" and "shitty Star Trek show starring Patrick Stewart."

Very glad I'm not a Doctor Who fan, which seems to have surpassed either Trek or Wars in its effort to deliberately vandalize the canon.
 
Sinner's Sandwich said:
Jesus Christ, Mike looks fucking awful! What happened??
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Drinking and watching bad science fiction shows have destroyed his life.

MooseGump said:
The moral of the story in Star Trek: Picard is that no matter how bad it gets, how stupid the writing can be, and the endless mistakes the writers and cast make that piss you off and make you hate star trek
You're not Wil Wheaton

And you know what, maybe things aren't that bad after all :)
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He probably offered to work for peanuts but even the cast of TNG desperate for a paycheck and the producers of Picard desperate for nerd-creed don't want him back. This is the role he has clung to in an effort to make it big again. Now they are reviving the show that made him infamous and nobody wants him back. Not the producers, not his fellow cast-mates, not even his fans seem to be making too much noise about bringing Wesley back. All he can do is suck up to people far more successful than he will ever be.

Compare him to Macullay Culkin who was another failed child star who had to rebuild his career from the ground up by creating his own weird material, had his own band, and appeared in videos with a bunch of drunks from Wisconsin and an angry Nintendo nerd from New Jersey. It all paid off and now Culkin has the chance to rebuild his career after winning a role on American Horror Story. He also got to bang Brenda Song even when struggling to get work and recovering from addiction so he was doing something right. Wheaton clung to fads and latched on to what was popular instead of developing as an actor and now his attempt at rebuilding his career is tied to the slowly sinking ship of geek culture. He now has to be a sad shill for the current thing in an effort to be relevant.

Commander X said:
It’s refreshing that the RLM fellows are still just regular nerds. It’s seems like all "nerds" nowadays have become obsessed with stuff like extremely local leftist politics, or being the pronoun police or whatever and are obnoxious about it too but the RLMs are a throwback to the classic “movie nerds” you knew in high school/college who were actually fun to hang out with and not insufferable.
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I think it helps that RLM made a ton of politically incorrect jokes in their early years, don't talk about politics, and don't apologize for jokes they made that people might be offended by. The fun police have no hope of influencing them or their fanbase and fucked off a long time ago to influence other targets. All thats left of their fanbase are people who just want to watch a couple drunks from Wisconsin crack jokes about bad movies.
 
Strange Wilderness said:
I think it helps that RLM made a ton of politically incorrect jokes in their early years, don't talk about politics, and don't apologize for jokes they made that people might be offended by. The fun police have no hope of influencing them or their fanbase and fucked off a long time ago to influence other targets. All thats left of their fanbase are people who just want to watch a couple drunks from Wisconsin crack jokes about bad movies.
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You have to hit a critical mass to cancel someone. RLM is surprisingly made of Teflon despite being solely on Youtube and Patreon. If there was enough critical mass they'd have been taken away half a decade ago. The issue is that they bought themselves a lot of goodwill with the general public and the legacy media with their Prequel reviews, to the point that it gets cited in academia and Hollywood elites watch them. That's hard to unsettle. Even if every single person on Earth wanted your guts, if the people with sway are at least a little apprehensive about ending an almost 15 year old studio over one joke, it doesn't happen.
 
Bush King said:
You have to hit a critical mass to cancel someone. RLM is surprisingly made of Teflon despite being solely on Youtube and Patreon. If there was enough critical mass they'd have been taken away half a decade ago. The issue is that they bought themselves a lot of goodwill with the general public and the legacy media with their Prequel reviews, to the point that it gets cited in academia and Hollywood elites watch them. That's hard to unsettle. Even if every single person on Earth wanted your guts, if the people with sway are at least a little apprehensive about ending an almost 15 year old studio over one joke, it doesn't happen.
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I don't think they're so strongly rooted that they couldn't get taken down, though given how over-the-top some bits from the Plinkett reviews are (the one I see cited the most is Harry's unstoppable ejaculation over the underage Olsen Twins) it would probably take an action rather than a mere joke to make it happen. What protects them isn't their cachet, but the fact they virtually never apologize. The closest thing to an apology I can think of is their follow-up to the Bruce Willis video, and even that was more of an exploration of a breaking story than an apology.
 
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