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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%
  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%
  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%
  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%
  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%
  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%
  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%
  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%
  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%
  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%

  • Total voters
    1,073
She's got that midwestern vibe. Probably why they made her a useless drunk in the show. She comes from good stock unlike the negresses and half-breeds they want to promote as "real characters". As always with these types of girls I say she belongs in the kitchen and children's playroom, not on teevee showing her tits for the jew's dollar.

Rich has been appearing in a lot of content lately and I have to say I am enjoying those episodes the most. He's got some sort of Dorian Gray thing going on. He's getting more attractive and less unintelligible. Maybe he's fasting. That can really sharpen the mind.
 
That Guinan stuff is the most cringy shit I have ever seen. I'm guessing a skilled editor could re-edit the episode to make her look like a classic dogmatic Star Trek villain ALA Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.

And is she seriously comparing businessmen to Klu Klux Klansmen? Da fuq? You know how hard all businesses simped for BLM?

This isn't just heavy-handed and one-sided, it's aggressively untrue.
 
Mike made the same point I did about slapping some sci fi themes over the current day stuff. You can tell an immigration and xenophobia story so easily with sci fi. Just showing it current day with humans isn't sci fi just because there's a time travel element. It's grating. He pointed out that there wasn't always a clear right or wrong but both sides would at least be given some space to talk in past Trek. Sure, we'd get plots where one side was definitely wrong, but we'd still get their "why". There's none of that in Picard. It's just bad because bad.

Also agree that the episode 5 whiplash was confusing. Are we done with the ICE stuff now? The tent cities? Moving on to the next plot line about Picard's stressy depressy ancestor and ancestral Soong's genetics tinkering? When Picard said "depression in a human can be devastating" I cringed. Such a weird fucking line. So now the real enemy is depression? Just have to push that mental health awareness in there too.

Also I don't know if I'm supposed to be on Soong's side but I am. His daughter will die if he doesn't keep her isolated forever. Is it really so evil that he's trying to cure her? It's not like we get any back story where he's doing some Mengele shit that reads evil. I'm guessing this is a stand in for current day discourse over stem cell research. I'm also guessing the show will try to turn his research evil and paint him as selfish or something.

So here's the running tally of things Picard has felt the need to touch on:

Poverty/Income disparity
Crime
Immigration
Racism
Fascism
Police bad
Healthcare
Mental Health
Stem cell/genetic research

You could have picked any 1 or 2 of these and made a season out of it. It's too much.
It's like Mike said in the review, they don't want to write a Star Trek show or probably even a science fiction show. They want to write whatever they want and coast off the Star Trek name. From the clips they showed it looked like the ICE plot is something out of a modern day police show than a science fiction show. They absolutely could do what you said and use the Star Trek formula to tell their tales about the modern world but don't give enough of a shit about Star Trek to tell a competent story.

I can't wait for Star Track Picard to assassinate Donald Trump to save the future.
I really hope they actually use Trump himself and have Picards crew of alcoholic, drug abusing, murderous thieves beat him to death while shouting how bad he is. You would think the writers would use an OC who is a knock off of Trump that might be the puppet of an alien threat but considering how unsubtle the show is that it will be the actual Trump and they will make sure to mention his name 20 times so the audience gets it. It would be funnier to see geriatric old Steward get into a fight with an actor playing a fat old boomer, but if Trump is the villain one of Picards companions will be the one to kill Trump.
 
if Trump is the villain one of Picards companions will be the one to kill Trump.
It will be Raffi or whatever her name is. And the plot will get this gay:
Raffi is told that "if you alter the timeline, you're stranded in the world you've created. You can't come back to the future."
She will say "What does the future have to offer me? Here there are people who need help. I can help them. I don't belong on the [forgot the fucking ship's name]. This is my home now."

pew pew, evil white man dead, future saved, until next season space cadets!
 
Its kinda happening.

Remember they went kinda went on a rant about how this issue would happen on TNG or STV where they would have a "debate" and weigh the pro and cons, which would mean the anti immigration people would be able to make their case.

Instead everyone is cartoonish evil.

But now borg queen stealing police legs...
Mike made the same point I did about slapping some sci fi themes over the current day stuff. You can tell an immigration and xenophobia story so easily with sci fi. Just showing it current day with humans isn't sci fi just because there's a time travel element. It's grating. He pointed out that there wasn't always a clear right or wrong but both sides would at least be given some space to talk in past Trek. Sure, we'd get plots where one side was definitely wrong, but we'd still get their "why". There's none of that in Picard. It's just bad because bad.
The left's school of thought boils down to nothing more than "this is bad because we say it's bad" and to even ask the question as to WHY it's supposed to be bad makes you part of the bad people because only to bad people is it not self evident why something is bad.

When pressed beyond "this is bad because it's bad" it boils down to coldly judging people by their skin color where "white=wrong" and "not white=right" or other identity based caste system reasons.

There's also the "nice" and "pleasant" factor, when it comes to the situation with the border it isn't "nice" to just say that people suffering bad situations have to be actively kept out because it's at the end of the day not the US's problem and we can't help all of these people.

It's perfectly rational, but it's not pleasant and it's not "nice" therefore it's bad, all reason and looking at the bigger picture be damned.

Leftists refuse to acknowledge that life isn't always going to be pleasant and there's nothing we can do about that, they operate in childlike logic.

And let's not beat around the bush as to why there's such a desire to have completely open borders and endless numbers of people flood in pushed so hard, so that the elites can actively replace the US's population with people they at least think will be a lot more subservient and easier to control, there's no rational reason why we should roll over and accept that.

The elites want to turn the US into a third world country where their enclaves are unaffected but all the "bad people" that do things like vote for Trump have literally gone extinct, there ain't gonna be any "Star Trek" future if these people get their way.

Or, as they allude to in the review, you could tackle all of them... in episodic structure, like the old Trek would do. The theme of this episode is X, so both the A and B plots explore different angles, motivations, ideas, perspectives before they filter through the defined personalities of the characters into the show's resolution.

However, as The Wire came out before this show, now everything TV needs to be written longform. And, well, it's so hard to choose topics to randomly throw into a shitty, generic sci-fi setting - so just throw them all in. Because there's really nothing unique about the setting, institutions, characters, so-on of Picard or Discovery. So why expect that you could then use the setting to explore real-world contentions in meaningful and interesting ways?
Why did episodic become so taboo? Was it because shows like House were so formulaic? At some point the phrase "monster of the week" became dirty words that TV now actively avoids.

That Guinan stuff is the most cringy shit I have ever seen. I'm guessing a skilled editor could re-edit the episode to make her look like a classic dogmatic Star Trek villain ALA Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.
I don't know the full context and I assume she's referring to humanity as a whole, but the way she says "you know they're killing the planet?" makes it sound like she's talking about white people are at least white men (and maybe she is)

Not hard to follow the logical endpoint of that attitude, if one group of people are killing the planet, then they should be killed first.

And is she seriously comparing businessmen to Klu Klux Klansmen? Da fuq? You know how hard all businesses simped for BLM?
I assume it was a reference to people like Trump, not just businessmen in general.

This isn't just heavy-handed and one-sided, it's aggressively untrue.
Aggressively untrue is just how the left operates now.


It's like Mike said in the review, they don't want to write a Star Trek show or probably even a science fiction show. They want to write whatever they want and coast off the Star Trek name. From the clips they showed it looked like the ICE plot is something out of a modern day police show than a science fiction show. They absolutely could do what you said and use the Star Trek formula to tell their tales about the modern world but don't give enough of a shit about Star Trek to tell a competent story.


I really hope they actually use Trump himself and have Picards crew of alcoholic, drug abusing, murderous thieves beat him to death while shouting how bad he is. You would think the writers would use an OC who is a knock off of Trump that might be the puppet of an alien threat but considering how unsubtle the show is that it will be the actual Trump and they will make sure to mention his name 20 times so the audience gets it. It would be funnier to see geriatric old Steward get into a fight with an actor playing a fat old boomer, but if Trump is the villain one of Picards companions will be the one to kill Trump.
It wouldn't surprise me if they really are as blunt as to literally make it Trump and not a stand in.
 
It will be Raffi or whatever her name is. And the plot will get this gay:
Raffi is told that "if you alter the timeline, you're stranded in the world you've created. You can't come back to the future."
She will say "What does the future have to offer me? Here there are people who need help. I can help them. I don't belong on the [forgot the fucking ship's name]. This is my home now."

pew pew, evil white man dead, future saved, until next season space cadets!
And when they go back to the future, she’ll be remembered in history as a super smart and strong activist that was so important for humanity.
 
You can tell an immigration and xenophobia story so easily with sci fi. Just showing it current day with humans isn't sci fi just because there's a time travel element. It's grating.

It reminds me of the moment in the Dolph Lundgren Masters of the Universe film where Teela bitches about how earthlings still eat meat. Current day people are sneered at and admonished by more advanced, futuristic, 'enlightened' fictional people, who have the words put in their mouths by some fairly stupid examples of current day people.

Something about 'don't try to write geniuses if you're a dunce'.

It also says something about jews manipulating media and society. Either it's not true because Alex Kurtzman is so inept at it, or he's the really noticeable, sacrificial, throw-them-off-the-scent exception to the rule.
 
One thing that really bothers me about Picard is that while I didn’t watch much Star Trek I remembered watching the Q episodes and I hate how Picard turns this fun and hammy trickster into a generic cryptic villain who waxed boring philosophical conundrums. I hope that paycheck is good for John De Lancie, since poor guy needs it.
 
One thing that really bothers me about Picard is that while I didn’t watch much Star Trek I remembered watching the Q episodes and I hate how Picard turns this fun and hammy trickster into a generic cryptic villain who waxed boring philosophical conundrums. I hope that paycheck is good for John De Lancie, since poor guy needs it.
Dude sounds like he had more fun voicing a MLP character than this “dark and edgy” version of Q.
 
Dude sounds like he had more fun voicing a MLP character than this “dark and edgy” version of Q.
It still is bizarre that fucking MLP got Q more than the people who write Star Trek nowadays. Hell even that voice message for the Q hotline that Mike called sounded like there was more energy in it.
 
Holy shit. I don't watch the Picard show but the opening minutes of clips of ICE and Skid Row is hilarious. It's such an elitist Hollywood mindset and lens.

"Oh woe, my toilet cleaner I pay $8/hr was deported last week and the homeless crack addict outside my office was arrested for eating a prostitute's face, #JusticeForJayquann!"

It'd be fine if it wasn't just a worse version of 95% of Hollywood productions these days. It's been done. It's been done better! It's been done better before with an actual message than "life shit". Maybe if you think these are problems you can take some inspiration from the brand you've co-opted and have an episode discussing the issue with different views and solutions instead of just showing it, commenting on how it's bad, and then moving on, repeat ad nauseam.

I doubt it's scripted. Mike likes to fuck with Rich all the time, I think it just didn't stick as a joke for anyone but him (no Jay to sift through clips and rip it out either).
Those scenes blew my mind. I don’t watch Star Trek, and I know it’s been a political franchise, but I can’t imagine it was THIS bad.

Hollywood is like Chernobyl but with smug farts instead of radiation. Imagine lecturing your audience, who are closer to those conditions than you, about those conditions. Get off your overstuffed platinum asses if you care so much. Are we sure Mad TV isn’t making a stealth comeback by pretending to be a real Star Trek show?
 
This isn't just heavy-handed and one-sided, it's aggressively untrue.
To my mind, that sums up why setting the story in the 2020s is such a crap idea. The whole point of allegory is being able to talk about basic principles instead of trying to depict reality, which is inevitably more complicated with more shades of gray.
If you can't tell a decent parable about race relations in Star Trek, you sure as fuck can't tell a credible real-world drama about it.
 
Or, as they allude to in the review, you could tackle all of them... in episodic structure, like the old Trek would do. The theme of this episode is X, so both the A and B plots explore different angles, motivations, ideas, perspectives before they filter through the defined personalities of the characters into the show's resolution.
That too. But like you said, shows now a days rarely do stand alone episodes. This season would have made so much sense making each theme a self contained episode as part of a larger arc. But that much planning is beyond the minds of the current trek writers. Just throw it all in the pot and call it soup.
 
That too. But like you said, shows now a days rarely do stand alone episodes. This season would have made so much sense making each theme a self contained episode as part of a larger arc. But that much planning is beyond the minds of the current trek writers. Just throw it all in the pot and call it soup.
Clearly, the writers also want people to come away with the idea that "it's all related." Like, these individual issues are all part of some bigger, greater societal ill and addressing one means addressing the other - and if you had a nice little thread throughout an episodic structure, you could have an overarching narrative that uses each individual episode's content to inform a grander "whole" that your cryptkeeper-lookin protagonist would have to summon upon in the climax.

Instead, it's just lazy drool and dreck. The man didn't like that the youngins were looking at social causes again, so the man had hollywood work its magic on the topics. And the shit stew is still somehow ludicrously popular - chances are that this complete trash and tripe has made more money / gotten more views than the original serieses, just by virtue of the times.
 
Mikes finally lost it and became a Riddler cosplayer, and Rich Evans has looped back from the event horizon to turn into a normal looking human being.
Picard is great at everything except being a Star Trek show
I read that as Ridley cosplayer and trying to remember if there were any shots of mike like that in the video

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It's like Mike said in the review, they don't want to write a Star Trek show or probably even a science fiction show. They want to write whatever they want and coast off the Star Trek name. From the clips they showed it looked like the ICE plot is something out of a modern day police show than a science fiction show. They absolutely could do what you said and use the Star Trek formula to tell their tales about the modern world but don't give enough of a shit about Star Trek to tell a competent story.


I really hope they actually use Trump himself and have Picards crew of alcoholic, drug abusing, murderous thieves beat him to death while shouting how bad he is. You would think the writers would use an OC who is a knock off of Trump that might be the puppet of an alien threat but considering how unsubtle the show is that it will be the actual Trump and they will make sure to mention his name 20 times so the audience gets it. It would be funnier to see geriatric old Steward get into a fight with an actor playing a fat old boomer, but if Trump is the villain one of Picards companions will be the one to kill Trump.
The borg will be created when Trump vows to bring back American manufacturing and do something about illegal immigration all in one fell swoop...
 
The thing to remember is that they wrote Picard in late 2019. They were meant to film in early 2020. This was probably done with the view that Trump would win the election. Then the pandemic delayed everything and Trump lost.

They ended up filming at the start of 2021. My guess is the first few episodes are close to the original scripts. Episode 5 marks the point where dramatic rewrites and retooling of the season start to happen.
 
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