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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%

  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%

  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%

  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%

  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%

  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%

  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%

  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%

  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%

  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%
  • Total voters
    1,073
At first Midnight Mass, coming from Netflix of Cuties and other globohomo bullshit fame, seeming to be Fedora Tipping "lol isn't Religion dumb" stuff pissed me off, but it sounds like it's a little deeper and better than that.

Also was a bit surprised to see Mike call Stranger Things trash, didn't they do a video about the first season where they liked it? Is this just a case of a show that started good but declined?

Also, Mike was raised Catholic? The RLM lore deepens...
 
Dom Cruise said:
At first Midnight Mass, coming from Netflix of Cuties and other globohomo bullshit fame, seeming to be Fedora Tipping "lol isn't Religion dumb" stuff pissed me off, but it sounds like it's a little deeper and better than that.

Also was a bit surprised to see Mike call Stranger Things trash, didn't they do a video about the first season where they liked it? Is this just a case of a show that started good but declined?

Also, Mike was raised Catholic? The RLM lore deepens...
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I just sat through 7 hours of the show tonight. It's about how conservatives are dumb covid spreading plague rats but instead of covid it's vampires. The last episode a muslim saves the day by burning down a church and an interracial couple are the only ones to escape the island alive. It felt like a live action Life is Strange adaption.
 
GeorgeFloyd said:
I just sat through 7 hours of the show tonight. It's about how conservatives are dumb covid spreading plague rats but instead of covid it's vampires. The last episode a muslim saves the day by burning down a church and an interracial couple are the only ones to escape the island alive. It felt like a live action Life is Strange adaption.
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Vampires? Is that what's going on? So it's a globohomo Salem's Lot?

Why were they so impressed with it? I love these guys but sometimes our tastes vary widly.

I did like Doctor Sleep, but I'm highly wary of anything Netflix, especially after the slap in the face that is fucking Cowboy Bebop, it pisses me off to see them say Midnight Mass is "Stephen King but better", fucking please.
 
Dom Cruise said:
Vampires? Is that what's going on? So it's a globohomo Salem's Lot?

Why were they so impressed with it? I love these guys but sometimes our tastes vary widly.

I did like Doctor Sleep, but I'm highly wary of anything Netflix, especially after the slap in the face that is fucking Cowboy Bebop, it pisses me off to see them say Midnight Mass is "Stephen King but better", fucking please.
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They were probably impressed because it "it subverts your expectations!" and kills off the main character halfway through the show. I didn't get the comparisons to Stephen King other than vampires/Salems Lot. Oh and there's a "Karen" type character that's just a literal copy-paste of the religious lady in The Mist. Stephen King adaptions usually end up being scary. The Zelda scene in Pet Semetery or the dogman scene in The Shining give me goosebumps just imagining them. There is nothing scary in Midnight Mass. There's a few attempted jump scares where a vampire is hiding in a bush with its eyes glowing or you see it's face outside a window.
 
It's one of the easiest things in the world to criticize Religion, what you never see discussed in media and what is far more relevant to our modern world is what do you replace Religion with? It seems to me like we're barreling towards something far worse than good old fashioned belief in God.

I did like The Mist and it had a similar "Religion is dumb" message but that felt a lot more relevant in 2007, it's 2021 and that sort of thing now feels dated.

It's absurd to me that we live in an era that would be fascinating to see art explore in an honest way, yet you basically never see it.
 
The message of The Mist isn't that 'religion is dumb', it's 'beware of gifters who take advantage of you at the worst moment of your life'.

You literally have religious people who oppose the cult that she's starting and say it has nothing to do with religion and it's just a cult from a batty old woman.
 
Dom Cruise said:
Also was a bit surprised to see Mike call Stranger Things trash, didn't they do a video about the first season where they liked it? Is this just a case of a show that started good but declined?
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Yes. Each season has gotten progressively worse. I'm really wary of Season 4 and I really hope they end it there.
 
Internet War Criminal said:
The message of The Mist isn't that 'religion is dumb', it's 'beware of gifters who take advantage of you at the worst moment of your life'.

You literally have religious people who oppose the cult that she's starting and say it has nothing to do with religion and it's just a cult from a batty old woman.
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Sure, which is why I still like The Mist and why it's still relevant today.

Midnight Mass however sounds like a dated holdover from the 2000s.

Travoltron said:
Yes. Each season has gotten progressively worse. I'm really wary of Season 4 and I really hope they end it there.
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A shame, but it is the kind of story that seems to make more sense as "that summer we fought some crazy monsters" and not "those years we fought some crazy monsters"

If you compare it to similar stories like The Monster Squad, The Goonies or even Stand By Me, it's about kids on a singular adventure, not something that goes on for years.
 
Dom Cruise said:
Why were they so impressed with it? I love these guys but sometimes our tastes vary widly.
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I actually watched Elves because the premise of it sounded really funny. That's the movie that convinced me 80s B movies are trash after my dad showed me a bunch of random 50s sci-fi B movies. 50s B movies actually do push their technical limitations and get decent-enough performances out of their actors to make the monster seem dangerous. All those scenes of people talking in rooms build suspense. Now, what other show of Mike's tends to do that? Star Trek, especially TNG. 80s B movies rarely push technical limitations and monsters are hit and miss.
 
byuu said:
Who doesn't miss the 2000s?
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I don't miss the whole "new atheism" movement of the 2000s, I hated it then, hate it now.

And today it's absurdly dated, the people who want to ban all forms of fun are not conservative Christians, it's dyed hair feminists, everything that sucks about the modern day is thanks to the left, not the right.

Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
I actually watched Elves because the premise of it sounded really funny. That's the movie that convinced me 80s B movies are trash after my dad showed me a bunch of random 50s sci-fi B movies. 50s B movies actually do push their technical limitations and get decent-enough performances out of their actors to make the monster seem dangerous. All those scenes of people talking in rooms build suspense. Now, what other show of Mike's tends to do that? Star Trek, especially TNG. 80s B movies rarely push technical limitations and monsters are hit and miss.
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50s filmmakers were usually earnest about their intent to make a real movie, even if talent and budget fell short, so much direct to video stuff was cheap cash grabs that no one cared to try to make it any good.
 
draggs said:
If Rich doesn't drink or do drugs, why does he sleep on the concrete floor with Mac?
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mac crack is more powerful than any earthly intoxicant
byuu said:
Who doesn't miss the 2000s?
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I wasn't a fan at the time, 80s and 90s stuff had more flavor, early 00s stuff was super bland. Now it's much worse thanks to chasing "realism" so the era seems charming, but only in retrospect, at the time I couldn't stand most media at all.
Over-marketing played into this pretty hard, we heard the "Am I not turtley enough for the turtle club" line more than the editors of the damn movie. it was worse than Disney-Marvel since we only had a few channels and the net didn't have much video content yet, so it was just an assault of ads non stop, even the radio played movie trailers, it was obnoxious.
 
GhostButt said:
I wasn't a fan at the time, 80s and 90s stuff had more flavor, early 00s stuff was super bland. Now it's much worse thanks to chasing "realism" so the era seems charming, but only in retrospect, at the time I couldn't stand most media at all.
Over-marketing played into this pretty hard, we heard the "Am I not turtley enough for the turtle club" line more than the editors of the damn movie. it was worse than Disney-Marvel since we only had a few channels and the net didn't have much video content yet, so it was just an assault of ads non stop, even the radio played movie trailers, it was obnoxious.
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The best media in the 2000s was usually stuff just outside the mainstream, a lot of mainstream media back then was pretty bland, it's true, however I've found that has a lot more charm now, it feels downright refreshing compared to today's hateful Wokeness, I've found myself enjoying a surprising amount of 2000s movies in recent times that I absolutely did not care to watch or wasn't very impressed with at the time, like I said the whole vibe of media back then is just so refreshing when compared to today.

You raise a good point about marketing though, they would play ads for some movies so often it made you not want to see them, "Am I not turtley enough for the turtle club" is a good example but I always think of "I'VE GOTTA GET MARRIED!?" from ads for The Santa Clause 2 said by Tim Allen and the hundreds of times you would have heard that back when the movie came out.

But we're safely removed from all that now and Lord help me, but The Santa Clause 2 is a movie I watched last December and... I liked it, it's not great, but the easy going vibe of it was agreeable to me compared to what Disney puts out now.
 
Dom Cruise said:
But we're safely removed from all that now and Lord help me, but The Santa Clause 2 is a movie I watched last December and... I liked it, it's not great, but the easy going vibe of it was agreeable to me compared to what Disney puts out now.
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Even if you didn't like the theme, movies back then at least adhered to the basic rules of satisfying storytelling while having likeable characters, we took that for granted for sure.
 
While 2000s era comedies were not good compared to what came before, they at least made comedies. Comedy as a genre is dead because of SJWs.
 
Dom Cruise said:
The best media in the 2000s was usually stuff just outside the mainstream, a lot of mainstream media back then was pretty bland, it's true, however I've found that has a lot more charm now, it feels downright refreshing compared to today's hateful Wokeness, I've found myself enjoying a surprising amount of 2000s movies in recent times that I absolutely did not care to watch or wasn't very impressed with at the time, like I said the whole vibe of media back then is just so refreshing when compared to today.

You raise a good point about marketing though, they would play ads for some movies so often it made you not want to see them, "Am I not turtley enough for the turtle club" is a good example but I always think of "I'VE GOTTA GET MARRIED!?" from ads for The Santa Clause 2 said by Tim Allen and the hundreds of times you would have heard that back when the movie came out.

But we're safely removed from all that now and Lord help me, but The Santa Clause 2 is a movie I watched last December and... I liked it, it's not great, but the easy going vibe of it was agreeable to me compared to what Disney puts out now.
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Watch them remake The Santa Clause where either a woman or a black guy becomes the new Santa and it’s more “RACISM/SEXISM BAD!” than an actual feel good Christmas film.
 
GhostButt said:
Even if you didn't like the theme, movies back then at least adhered to the basic rules of satisfying storytelling while having likeable characters, we took that for granted for sure.
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Exactly, most movies back then just wanted to entertain you and even if they did get political they still tried to have quality story and characters.

SteelPlatedHeart said:
Watch them remake The Santa Clause where either a woman or a black guy becomes the new Santa and it’s more “RACISM/SEXISM BAD!” than an actual feel good Christmas film.
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Funnily enough Mother Nature is played by a black actress, but it's very matter of fact, there's no spotlight shone on that fact.

This idea that American media seriously lacked diversity until about 5 years ago is bunk, it just used to be more matter of fact and not have so much attention called to it.
 
FrickinFrackinFruckin said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=R5xa7r6oIBQ
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I know I'm super late, but I remember being a little kid hearing about how there was a Primal Rage movie and being super excited, thinking it was a movie adaptation of the game Primal Rage.

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I even remember asking a friend who reportedly saw it, who insisted that Blizzard and Vertigo were in it. 😢
I know 8 year old me would have had a shitfit if he saw this.
 
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