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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

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Nice to see Plinkett returning to form -- I thought "The Star Wars Awakens" was the dullest review and one without as much heart as the others. But this is kind of unexpected, no? I don't remember the Half in the Bag review being anywhere near this scorching.
 
I liked how Plinkett addressed the real core issues with the movie, mostly the pacing and characterization. I've pretty much withrdawn from talking about TLJ because every criticism I ever hear of it is usually one of three things:
1) lol mary sue
2) lol feminist propaganda
3) lol this contradicts [Expanded Universe source nobody fucking cares about]

There was some callbacks to this stuff but he really didn't talk about it all that much. The real crux of the movie's problems is the fact it just spins its wheels, which they touched on in HitB and which Plinkett really got into. There was a really good movie here, but it was buried under nonsense. And as he said, there's some credit due to Johnson for at least trying something new.
 
Mola Ram said:
Nice to see Plinkett returning to form -- I thought "The Star Wars Awakens" was the dullest review and one without as much heart as the others
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That came out quite soon after the movie was in theaters, when they were still somewhat positive about iit....
 
Mola Ram said:
Nice to see Plinkett returning to form -- I thought "The Star Wars Awakens" was the dullest review and one without as much heart as the others. But this is kind of unexpected, no? I don't remember the Half in the Bag review being anywhere near this scorching.
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The problem is Force Awakens was actually a solid, decent movie with enough call backs to the original trilogy while doing things just differently enough that it worked. Hardcore fans who'd screeched about it being a rip off of A New Hope are also the kind of folks who re-watch the original trilogy several times a year. So they decided to use Rian Johnson instead of keeping Abrams about (who's a massive Star Wars nerd) in the "subverting expectations" manner which was a fucking disaster for Disney.
 
The Last Jedi review seems to have inspired the kind of salt that makes me wish the Salt Mines are still alive.

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Intelligent Calcium said:
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Johnson's well aware of RLM, so the only question is if he has the courage to watch the review.
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I think he will.

I also honestly think the video suffered from its lateness, you can kinda tell that Mike wanted to find bad things that no one did, if it was out earlier it could have had a free-er hand criticizing the movie without feeling like a rehash of the last 30 videos.. As a result, the video really doesn't feel "complete".
 
neural said:
I think he will.

I also honestly think the video suffered from its lateness, you can kinda tell that Mike wanted to find bad things that no one did, if it was out earlier it could have had a free-er hand criticizing the movie without feeling like a rehash of the last 30 videos.. As a result, the video really doesn't feel "complete".
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Yeah, when I saw the scroll through of TLJ criticisms in the middle of the video I was waiting for a caption: "see these other videos for more information."
(but hey, they had MauLer & Smacktalk, 2 of my favorites)

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Mola Ram said:
Nice to see Plinkett returning to form -- I thought "The Star Wars Awakens" was the dullest review and one without as much heart as the others. But this is kind of unexpected, no? I don't remember the Half in the Bag review being anywhere near this scorching.
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Which became meta ironic when the Best of the Worst video following that HitB review ended up having a long joke at the expense of Last Jedi in the middle of it.

That one subverted my expectations.
 
Flexo said:
Yeah, when I saw the scroll through of TLJ criticisms in the middle of the video I was waiting for a caption: "see these other videos for more information."
(but hey, they had MauLer & Smacktalk, 2 of my favorites)
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Was it you who linked MauLer's secret unlisted video on MovieBob? If so, can you re-link it?
 
neural said:
Was it you who linked MauLer's secret unlisted video on MovieBob? If so, can you re-link it?
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It wasn't me but I started the chain by linking MauLer's videos (then someone else found it).

But here you go. I live to please, feel free to ping me for requests any time.
 
I get what Rian Johnson, boycott fodder that he is, was trying to do. He wanted to pull a Vince Gilligan-esque emotional aversion of all our expectations. The entire movie has an abject theme of failure built around it; nobody gets anything they want until the hand of fate huddles twelve survivors together in a room.

The problem is our expectations included adventure and excitement—not a carbon copy of the Star Wars from 40 years ago, but the fun, the drama, the popcorn and the characters. Instead we got a 2 hour slow police chase and cartoon hijinks in Space Vegas, with half a bottle of cringe humor dressing emptied on top of it. Even worse, Empire did the same theme much better in 1980, what with Luke punished by harsh reality after running off to play hero too early. Cut to The Last Jedi where...somebody wants something. And they're disappointed. And they get disappointed again.

We also wanted some answers as to where the amazing pilot wizard girl got her powers from, or who Emperor Serkis was supposed to be. That was all "subverted," too. Empire didn't give us all the answers, but it didn't let us down either.

Oh yeah, and all the men are brash, bumbling assholes because us grrls gotta stick together and make sure the males don't make a bigger, stupider mess of everything.
 
neural said:
I think he will.

I also honestly think the video suffered from its lateness, you can kinda tell that Mike wanted to find bad things that no one did, if it was out earlier it could have had a free-er hand criticizing the movie without feeling like a rehash of the last 30 videos.. As a result, the video really doesn't feel "complete".
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I think it's more a combination of how busy RLM is now compared to when they did their prequel reviews and the amount of work that goes into the Plinkett stuff. As good as Mauler's points are, his review is the opposite of tightly edited. We did get some unique insights (especially the comparison of its structure to that of a slapstick comedy) and the short film "The Wine Tasting," which is probably going to be a meme all on its own. I also suspect there was a lot of behind-the-scenes debating on whether to do the review at all, since it's stupidly become a political litmus test, which is the sort of thing RLM has avoided like the plague since the beginning.

neural said:
The Last Jedi review seems to have inspired the kind of salt that makes me wish the Salt Mines are still alive.

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As if to prove my point...
 
UnclePhil said:
The entire movie has an abject theme of failure built around it; nobody gets anything they want until the hand of fate huddles twelve survivors together in a room.
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It's theme of failure is so prevalent it extended to the writing and directing!

IMAO had thoughts on the latest Plinkett
http://www.imao.us/index.php/2018/08/random-thoughts-mccain-and-plinkett/

I’ve anticipated this more than any movie this year.

The thing with this Plinkett review is attacking The Last Jedi as terrible (which it is, and I don’t get the conspiracy to pretend it isn’t) feel more like a controversial political act than his tearing apart the prequels.

I thought a really insightful for part of The Last Jedi Plinkett review was the suggestion of where it should have ended. If they had ended it there, I would have been really curious about the sequel instead of meh.
There were a number of things Episode VII intrigued we with that made me anticipate VIII, but then VIII just stomped all over that and left basically nothing left.
Eh. At some point we should be done talking about the The Last Jedi (though presumably not until after XI), but I just want to reiterate it was a bad movie and if you claim to like it you should feel bad.​
 
Mola Ram said:
I think it's more a combination of how busy RLM is now compared to when they did their prequel reviews and the amount of work that goes into the Plinkett stuff. As good as Mauler's points are, his review is the opposite of tightly edited. We did get some unique insights (especially the comparison of its structure to that of a slapstick comedy) and the short film "The Wine Tasting," which is probably going to be a meme all on its own. I also suspect there was a lot of behind-the-scenes debating on whether to do the review at all, since it's stupidly become a political litmus test, which is the sort of thing RLM has avoided like the plague since the beginning.



As if to prove my point...
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To be fair, /pol/ spergs also hate RLM and consider them Reddit-tier shills for Disney.
 
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