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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%
  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%
  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%
  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%
  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%
  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%
  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%
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    Votes: 27 2.5%
  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%
  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%

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This was a good one. Just the absolute contempt they have for Roland Emmerich, theaters, the sleaziness of the studio system, China pandering, Disney, and memberberries is apparent throughout. Also science lessons from Mike.

RIP Mikes keyboard

There's this shit movie called Norbit with Eddie Murphy, and there's this one character called "Mr. Wong" who I for a very long time, had no idea was being played by him.View attachment 3164977
So yeah, maybe i'm just retarded, but I feel like he could get away with it if he had good makeup. Of course this would never happen in todays climate.

Sorry for the derail, but honestly I should be the mad one since you reminded me of Norbit.
This movie actually got nominated for an Academy Award for best makeup but didn't win. Hilariously Eddie Murphy was considered the favorite to win best supporting actor that year and its speculated that him staring in this movie caused the academy to not vote for him due to being in a movie where a Chinese man throws a harpoon into the ass of a giant fat black woman, both played by Eddie Murphy.
 
Independence Day is one of my all time guilty pleasures, bit all his other films have been awful. I've always felt it never say right that you'd have destruction scenes were millions were being killed, whilst the leads made wise cracks as they escaped it. ID was the only one that seemed to get that balance right.
 
Already I'm seeing the people demanding to know why they aren't reviewing the latest superhero film "I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THESE INTERNET VIDEOS GUYS SAY ABOUT IT SO I KNOW HOW TO THINK ABOUT IT AND PARROT THEIR OPINION"
 
Already I'm seeing the people demanding to know why they aren't reviewing the latest superhero film "I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THESE INTERNET VIDEOS GUYS SAY ABOUT IT SO I KNOW HOW TO THINK ABOUT IT AND PARROT THEIR OPINION"
The curse of parasocial relationship.

Though again if they brought back the nerd crew to review super hero movies
 
Already I'm seeing the people demanding to know why they aren't reviewing the latest superhero film "I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THESE INTERNET VIDEOS GUYS SAY ABOUT IT SO I KNOW HOW TO THINK ABOUT IT AND PARROT THEIR OPINION"
How am I supposed to go throughout my day peacfully, without knowing what Mike Stoklasa and Richard Evans think of 1997 superhero classic, from the creative minds of DC comics: Steel starring Shaquile O'neil?
 
See now, based on this description Norbit should have been one of the greatest movies of all time.
My friend dragged me to the theater to watch Norbit. It definitely wasn't because shit like that you could still get away with in 2006/2007, where as it comes off as a novelty today.

Also I feel like anyone screaming for them to review super hero films at this point really missed the fucking boat on what RLM is really about.
 
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My friend dragged me to the theater to watch Norbit. It definitely wasn't because shit like that you could still get away with in 2006/2007, where as it comes off as a novelty today.

I also saw Norbit in the theatre. I am perfectly aware of its ... well, let's be kind and say its "unrealized potential."

(I still laugh at the strip club name, though -- "Nippleopolis.")
 
Independence Day is one of my all time guilty pleasures, bit all his other films have been awful. I've always felt it never say right that you'd have destruction scenes were millions were being killed, whilst the leads made wise cracks as they escaped it. ID was the only one that seemed to get that balance right.
It's been years since the last time I saw it, but from my recollection, Independence Day did it well through the structure of the script.
The first third or so is the buildup. Giant UFOs appear out of nowhere over multiple major cities. There's no indication what they're there for, no communication with Earth at all, they're just there. The main cast is introduced and set up, and the plot at this point simply revolves around reactions to the UFOs and trying to figure out what they're there for. Then the oh shit moment when Jeff Goldblum realizes their transmissions to each other have a countdown encoded in the signal. "And then what?" "Checkmate."

(Although, if I'm gonna be pedantic, there wasn't really any indication what the countdown was for. Could've been a big surprise party. Imagine all the UFOs opening their doors and instead of city-destroying lasers, it's just millions of balloons and tons of confetti. Okay, tangent over.)

And then comes the disaster porn. Rewatching the scene, it still holds up, with some fantastic miniature work:
What's really noteworthy to me is how the score just completely cuts out as soon as the lasers go off. Two solid minutes where all you hear is the deafening roar of the explosions and the panicked reactions of the crowds. It honestly jolted me when the score kicked back in at the end of that video, in that I hadn't noticed it was gone until then. It really highlights the sheer terror of the situation, with no blaring music to try and play with your emotions until it's time to return to the main cast again. And in contrast to today's quiptastic dialogue, aside from Harvey Fierstein's "oh crap," not a word is said to take away from the destruction.

Another interesting aspect of the movie, in rereading the plot summary, is that really, that's the bulk of the disaster porn. The remainder of the movie is how humanity fights back in the aftermath, with the second third involving failed counterattacks against the saucers and the revelation of their plans at Area 51, and the final third being the aerial assault over Area 51 and the (still hilarious in hindsight) plot to upload a virus to the mothership to lower the shields and nuke the alien bastards. We don't really see any more major destruction between the initial attack and those lovely spaceship explosions at the end.

And it's that restraint, ironically, that sets Independence Day apart from Emmerich's later disaster porn movies, where he always seems to be trying to one-up himself. In The Day After Tomorrow, climate change makes superstorms that flood and then freeze a huge chunk of the planet. Then in 2012, the magnetic field shifts and all the Earth's tectonic plates get thrown out of whack. Then in Independence Day: Resurgence, the ayys are back with a giant starfish ship that rips up huge chunks of the planet and threatens to drill a hole to the core. And now in Moonfall, we have the entire fucking Moon coming into Earth's atmosphere and doing all manner of gravity-related shenanigans. And with all of these, you don't really get much of a chance to breathe before another giant CGI nightmare happens, Moonfall being the worst offender.

Look, I appreciate a good turn-your-brain-off disaster porn movie if I'm in the mood for it. They're not high art, and I'm not expecting any more than that. But you can still make a good disaster porn movie, which isn't something I think Emmerich has done for quite some time. Far be it for me to tell the man what to do, but I feel that pulling back on his worst impulses instead of wanting to see the entire planet get sploded every time would result in a better film. I mean, hell, it'd legitimately be hard to top this one unless he plans on blowing up the Sun in his next movie.

Oh no, I think I accidentally predicted his next movie.
 
I never thought the day would come when people would fondly remember Independence Day.

Something of a fuck-up in their video though. I don't think it's been pointed out. Mike says he's selling an NFT of an ape with a top hat, then he later states it's an NFT of a monkey with a top hat. Apes are not monkeys! 🐒

As good as their videos have been lately it's these little errors that creep in and lower the quality.
 
It's a weird feeling to see clips from the Independence Day sequel and actually feel nostalgic even though I never saw it.

But it's like, remember 2016? Remember when the world wasn't yet a complete screaming nightmare? (though that was when it started)

Independence Day is one of my all time guilty pleasures, bit all his other films have been awful. I've always felt it never say right that you'd have destruction scenes were millions were being killed, whilst the leads made wise cracks as they escaped it. ID was the only one that seemed to get that balance right.
Independence Day is much like Michael Bay's The Rock, both movies are stupid but they had just the right balance to where they weren't TOO stupid and were still entertaining and at the end of the day, good movies.

Everything both Emmerich and Bay have done since then has been trash though because the balance fell too hard in favor of the stupid, Hollywood started a major downturn in 1998 that now almost 25 years later never fully went away.
 
It's been years since the last time I saw it, but from my recollection, Independence Day did it well through the structure of the script.
The first third or so is the buildup. Giant UFOs appear out of nowhere over multiple major cities. There's no indication what they're there for, no communication with Earth at all, they're just there. The main cast is introduced and set up, and the plot at this point simply revolves around reactions to the UFOs and trying to figure out what they're there for. Then the oh shit moment when Jeff Goldblum realizes their transmissions to each other have a countdown encoded in the signal. "And then what?" "Checkmate."

(Although, if I'm gonna be pedantic, there wasn't really any indication what the countdown was for. Could've been a big surprise party. Imagine all the UFOs opening their doors and instead of city-destroying lasers, it's just millions of balloons and tons of confetti. Okay, tangent over.)

And then comes the disaster porn. Rewatching the scene, it still holds up, with some fantastic miniature work:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uA7KeLSJ32EWhat's really noteworthy to me is how the score just completely cuts out as soon as the lasers go off. Two solid minutes where all you hear is the deafening roar of the explosions and the panicked reactions of the crowds. It honestly jolted me when the score kicked back in at the end of that video, in that I hadn't noticed it was gone until then. It really highlights the sheer terror of the situation, with no blaring music to try and play with your emotions until it's time to return to the main cast again. And in contrast to today's quiptastic dialogue, aside from Harvey Fierstein's "oh crap," not a word is said to take away from the destruction.

Another interesting aspect of the movie, in rereading the plot summary, is that really, that's the bulk of the disaster porn. The remainder of the movie is how humanity fights back in the aftermath, with the second third involving failed counterattacks against the saucers and the revelation of their plans at Area 51, and the final third being the aerial assault over Area 51 and the (still hilarious in hindsight) plot to upload a virus to the mothership to lower the shields and nuke the alien bastards. We don't really see any more major destruction between the initial attack and those lovely spaceship explosions at the end.

And it's that restraint, ironically, that sets Independence Day apart from Emmerich's later disaster porn movies, where he always seems to be trying to one-up himself. In The Day After Tomorrow, climate change makes superstorms that flood and then freeze a huge chunk of the planet. Then in 2012, the magnetic field shifts and all the Earth's tectonic plates get thrown out of whack. Then in Independence Day: Resurgence, the ayys are back with a giant starfish ship that rips up huge chunks of the planet and threatens to drill a hole to the core. And now in Moonfall, we have the entire fucking Moon coming into Earth's atmosphere and doing all manner of gravity-related shenanigans. And with all of these, you don't really get much of a chance to breathe before another giant CGI nightmare happens, Moonfall being the worst offender.

Look, I appreciate a good turn-your-brain-off disaster porn movie if I'm in the mood for it. They're not high art, and I'm not expecting any more than that. But you can still make a good disaster porn movie, which isn't something I think Emmerich has done for quite some time. Far be it for me to tell the man what to do, but I feel that pulling back on his worst impulses instead of wanting to see the entire planet get sploded every time would result in a better film. I mean, hell, it'd legitimately be hard to top this one unless he plans on blowing up the Sun in his next movie.

Oh no, I think I accidentally predicted his next movie.
Maybe all those SFX guys kept saying, "You want more?! We've already used up all the dynamite. We'll have to wait for the next shipment" and "Well, these miniatures take like a week to make. We're going to need another week if you blow up this one."

RLM shitting on ID4 is one of the few times I hard disagree with them. The other is their Starship Troopers review. That movie wasn't really satire, but a failure of satire which I said in the Unpopular movies thread.
 
I never thought the day would come when people would fondly remember Independence Day.

Something of a fuck-up in their video though. I don't think it's been pointed out. Mike says he's selling an NFT of an ape with a top hat, then he later states it's an NFT of a monkey with a top hat. Apes are not monkeys! 🐒

As good as their videos have been lately it's these little errors that creep in and lower the quality.
 
Maybe all those SFX guys kept saying, "You want more?! We've already used up all the dynamite. We'll have to wait for the next shipment" and "Well, these miniatures take like a week to make. We're going to need another week if you blow up this one."

RLM shitting on ID4 is one of the few times I hard disagree with them. The other is their Starship Troopers review. That movie wasn't really satire, but a failure of satire which I said in the Unpopular movies thread.


ID4 must be one of the last blockbusters to rely mainly on practical effects, I have the 4k version and on the whole it still looks good today. Great soundtrack as well. The model planes they use in the dogfights still have a feeling of weight and momentum that cgi can't replicate, and despite the mass battle it's very easy to keep track of where everyone is. Compare that to Midway, which is a subject I was interested in so gave it a fair shot. But it's just a mess, things flying and exploding all over the place, planes pulling off impossible turns and camera spinning like it was drunk. Pure visual noise.
 
I doubt anybody else remembers this, but I'm pretty sure I saw a TV movie about 15 or so years ago about the moon crashing into the Earth. Damned if I can remember what the name was.

Never mind, I just looked it up. It was a miniseries called Impact, about a meteor shower that knocks the moon out of orbit.
 
Independence Day was always a great flick, and never a guilty pleasure, the only people who ever thought anything else are millenial and zoomer faggots.
 
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