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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%

  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%

  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%

  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%

  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%

  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%

  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%

  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%

  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%

  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%
  • Total voters
    1,073
ditto said:
That was a Jessie episode, probably with the greatest "dungeon master's girlfriend" syndrome because they dedicated an entire segment for her to gush over it when everyone else was pretty underwhelmed.
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Only Thunderpants was for Jessie. It had been a while since I watched that episode, so I rewatched it today. They watched Playing Dangerous, Shapeshifter, and Thunderpants. Rich bought Thunderpants especially for Jess, because she always finds farts hilarious. I remember in another episode, they watched that American Gladiators parody that was all about farts. But everyone liked Thunderpants. The panel was Mike, Jess, Rich, and Jay. Thunderpants didn't get voted Best because it was voted out of BOTW because it was too good.
Everyone has something they gravitate to. Mike has Star Trek, Jay has horror, Jess had farts.
 
It was Mike, Rich and Jessie for the BOTW but checking the credits Jay did edit that video. It seems whoever of the two isn't in the review group or table usually edits with fresh eyes.
 
GloriousRapeRabbit said:
ye...nice eye candy. Cute girl.
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Yeah, the 5/10 is "eye candy" for a Youtube show most people listen to like a podcast instead of watching because who the fuck has an hour and 16 minutes to devote to watching clips of some trash movie with 4 middle aged men cracking jokes over it.


FWIW I have been rewatching Best of the Worst lately and Jessie's laugh is very obnoxious. Maybe it's the sound mixing in the early episodes that she's in.
 
Pokemonquistador2 said:
It's insane. When gay acceptance first became a widespread thing, I thought it would result in a small (*proportionate to real life) number of characters turning out to be gay and it being treated as no big thing. I never thought we'd reach a time when either none of the characters in media are gay or all of them are.
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I don't think there still is much gay representation in pop culture, in fact the tidbits they get from making only minor side characters gay is one of the points RLM make that I think is sound. And I can see more of the gender fluidity/trans etc overexposure coming in pop culture in the next few years, again bypassing homosexuality.
 
fuckthisshit said:
I don't think there still is much gay representation in pop culture, in fact the tidbits they get from making only minor side characters gay is one of the points RLM make that I think is sound. And I can see more of the gender fluidity/trans etc overexposure coming in pop culture in the next few years, again bypassing homosexuality.
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Gays and lesbians get way too much "representation" (which, as an aside, is a fucking inane concept... nobody has any reason to expect or demand characters who are superficially like them in fiction) in pop culture considering how many of them actually exist in real life. Media overexposure of gays and lesbians has even started distorting peoples' understanding of gay/lesbian percentages in the population. People think the percentages are far higher than they actually are.

And homosexual characters are never going to be the lead characters in most shows and movies because most people aren't homosexual. There's nothing wrong with centering a story around a gay character (especially if doing so can let you explore dynamics, issues, and stories you wouldn't be able to otherwise), but as a creator you do want audiences to be drawn to stories that seem relatable to them, and your movie is going to be less marketable if it comes across as a "gay movie." Remember, as activist as Hollywood is, the money men want a return on their investments far more than they want to "make a difference.
 
Marissa Moira said:
No that's the problem, there are adults, it's a high school full of nothing BUT Adults.
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To explain the metaphor, in high school "adults" are all in positions of power - teachers, parents, etc - and part of their duty is to put the brakes on really destructive behavior (obviously results will vary) and keep a leash on the teens' worst impulses.

"No adults" means "No restraints."
 
frozenrunner said:
Gays and lesbians get way too much "representation" (which, as an aside, is a fucking inane concept... nobody has any reason to expect or demand characters who are superficially like them in fiction) in pop culture considering how many of them actually exist in real life. Media overexposure of gays and lesbians has even started distorting peoples' understanding of gay/lesbian percentages in the population. People think the percentages are far higher than they actually are.
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All of this is even more true about the gender crew, which seem like they've sidelined gays and lesbians for the hipness factor, so I am expecting the amount of gays and lesbians in movies to remain about the same, and more of an even smaller population being over represented.
 
fuckthisshit said:
All of this is even more true about the gender crew, which seem like they've sidelined gays and lesbians for the hipness factor, so I am expecting the amount of gays and lesbians in movies to remain about the same, and more of an even smaller population being over represented.
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Agreed. I don't think it's anything more than virtue signaling, so why wouldn't they signal louder?
 
Watched both Bill and Ted 3 and the HitB. It was a solid C+/B- on first watch, I could see it getting bumped on rewatches. A lot of it felt rushed or pointless. I would also say a lot of it didn't make sense but that's actually fine with Bill and Ted movies. Jay sums it up pretty well in the first few minutes, Bill and Ted can get away with things that would drag other movies down. One of the few franchises I can think of that the logic not making sense actually makes sense and works.


There's a few times they say "it'll all make sense in the end" and it felt like there was going to be some big twist but there wasn't. The "twist" was that the daughters are the ones who make the song that saves the world. But like...I figured that out from the trailer. Everyone did. I think that's just classic B&T logic though. It's a revelation to them but obvious to everyone else. The daughters go time hopping and bring together classic musicians a la Excellent Adventure. Except one of these famous musicians is a no name cave woman who can drum? And randomly Kid Cudi? The musician choices don't make sense. Also with how much sampling is done in music right now I figured that would play into it. Like you don't have to bring the musicians to current time just sample them in their own time and compile it later. Past Bill and Ted choices vs next generation choices. But my guess is the writers are kind of out of touch with current trends and hadn't even considered that.

Mike gets a point for saying the princesses are pointless in the ReView because they are really pointless in this one. They don't do a damn thing for the plot. There are 3 things technically pushing the story forward. B&T trying to make the song that saves the universe (and the quest it leads them on), B&T "saving their marriage", and B&T avoiding the robot Dennis sent to murder them. The last 2 things do not factor in at all and could have been cut entirely. What happens is, B&T go to the future (to find a version of themselves who have already made the song) and learn their wives leave them because their wives from the future went back to take them time hopping to find a place where they are finally happy with B&T and learn there isn't one. So basically the current princesses get taken away by future princesses and they are out of most of the movie. We don't see ANY of that side plot and it feels like it was chopped for time. They just come to the realization "right now is the happiest place for us"....uh ok. B&T needed kids, that is the only reason the princesses exist.

That comes up a lot for me. That the writers needed X to happen so they wrote in Y but now they have no idea what to do with Y. Dennis the robot is another example. Rufus' wife decides murdering Bill and Ted is a better solution then waiting for them to make the song. That choice doesn't make any sense. She has this robot named Dennis who she sends after them. Dennis only exists to send most of the characters to Hell so the plot lines can converge and also talk to Death. Dennis the robot is just a confusing addition. Clearly supposed to be the Death comic relief character but wasn't funny or charming. Again, thought it would all make sense in the end but nope, Dennis really only exists to make X happen.

They meet up with Death who had a falling out with the guys over basically nothing and they ask him to rejoin so they can get out of hell and he says sure ok. It's supposed to be some grand moment but we barely learn anything about why they need to mend their relationship so them reuniting doesn't land like it should. William Sadler has lost the ability to do Death's strange accent and it's jarring hearing him reach for it.

In the beginning B&T and their wives go to couples counseling and it's established that they have a hard time seeing each other as separate people. They say "we" love you to their wives instead of "I" love you and such. I thought maybe they established that so they would have some time apart. That would lead to them realizing they don't need to be attached at the hip and all the time spent up each other's asses was preventing them from growing as people and preventing them from writing the universe saving song. That's a typical "woke" movie plot though. "The real villan is codependency" wouldn't be best for B&T (it didn't work for Wreck it Ralph 2 either) so I guess it gets a pass. But they end up saying "I love you" to their wives at the end. They somehow grew on their journey but it's not really shown in my opinion.

Every issue I had could be answered with "but that's just how Bill and Ted movies are" and somehow that makes sense and I'm ok with it.
 
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