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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%

  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%

  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%

  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%

  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%

  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%

  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%

  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%

  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%

  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%
  • Total voters
    1,073
They need to cut to Jay more as the baseline of what people/the producers know for Star Trek.
 
I would love for 'violent hardons' to be the new term for ravenous dicksucking fanboys that refuse to see how shit something.


If it became a thing I'd give 2 months before tumblr starts calling it an alt right term.
 
These guys are on point in this review.
I seriously don't get how a fox news channel would be seen as mainstream in the federation?
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Here's the thing, DS9 was a good show but I never wanted it to become the new normal.
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I don't think anything that came after it really matched up to the spirit of the older series and the quality of DS9.
 
Local Hobo said:
Rich Evans said:
Here's the thing, DS9 was a good show but I never wanted it to become the new normal.
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I don't think anything that came after it really matched up to the spirit of the older series and the quality of DS9.
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I think Rich just has a very limited range of what he likes in a given franchise (see his constant whinging about how there's "not much that you can do with Star Wars").
 
I couldn't finish the Picard review. It made me embarrassed to have ever been a fan of Star Trek. Remember the Deep Space 9 episode Duet? It was one of the best episodes of anything I've ever seen, struggling with issues of soul-rending guilt, racism, the injustice of revenge, and the realization that only through the forgiveness can we ever find peace with oursel//11/./!/NAW FUCK THAT SHIT, Data had positronic karate babies.
 
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I haven't even seen Star Trek aside from a couple of episodes here and there, but it's always a joy to see Mike and Rich shit all over nu-Trek.

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This was one of the best vids they've put out recently. Mike and Rich seemed genuinely alert and interested to talk about this topic, not bored af like usual. And all the points they made were PERFECT.

I couldn't quite put my finger on what it is about "not your father's Star Trek" stuff that I didn't like but Rich finally figured it out for me. It's the lack of futuristic optimism. Blown away Rich of all people made the point about racisim being so out of place Uhura doesn't immediately realize what happened when space Lincoln called her a negro. We need more of that Star Trek. Not whatever this topical wink wink political landscape shit is they're doing now.

I think most of their predictions will happen. The point about Dahj being part Data AND Picard in particular. It's just stupid enough to happen. I didn't catch on until they pointed it out but they're right about this show making a bigger thing of Data and Picard's friendship then what was originally shown in TNG. I fell for it too when I first watched, getting all nostalgic for dead Data and Picard missing him. Then when they made that point I had a hey wait a minute moment. They're right, Data and Picard were never super close friends. Mike pulled a lot of perfect TNG clips to support his arguments too. Plus Jay standing in as the everyman who only knows Star Trek via pop culture filtering. Just all around great vid.
 
KrewlKween said:
I didn't catch on until they pointed it out but they're right about this show making a bigger thing of Data and Picard's friendship then what was originally shown in TNG. I fell for it too when I first watched, getting all nostalgic for dead Data and Picard missing him. Then when they made that point I had a hey wait a minute moment. They're right, Data and Picard were never super close friends.
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I absolutely agree and it's great for Mike and Rich to point that out. Picard and Data did larp on the holodeck together, but it all still felt very formal. They also mention how every other person aside from Picard had a close relationship with Data. Geordi is ofc the obvious one, but the others got their moments as well. Think of Troi what you want, but the two of them actually had a really underrated emotional bond that I always appreciated. Aside from that one time when he stabbed her (and in all fairness, he wasn't really aiming for her), he treated her very gently and always sought her out whenever he was experiencing something that needed a better emotional understanding of.
 
lmao at the thought of a black woman not having a chip on her shoulder about race, even centuries in the future.

Star Trek really was an optimistic future!
 
FernandoPooTragedy said:
Nah, man, our husbandos aren't allowed to have friends. Those friends aren't us and they also have different senses of humor/politics/names than us and it makes it hard for me to project myself onto them. Mike, Jay, and Rich would be way better off if it were me they were hanging with. That's why a giant,#ChangetheChannel-esque schism is coming and why Mike is about to kill himself. #notprojecting

At least, according to some of the exceptional individuals in this thread.
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Who gives a fuck if they have friends or not? They are internet funny men and all i want is good content. Jack is about as fun as watching paint dry.
 
Cyril Sneer said:
I think Rich just has a very limited range of what he likes in a given franchise (see his constant whinging about how there's "not much that you can do with Star Wars").
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Yeah, kind of surprises me how dismissive they are towards Star Wars EU stuff. Not much of a SW fan myself to the point where I'm meh with RoS, but man I loved that KotoR stuff.
 
trekkor said:
I absolutely agree and it's great for Mike and Rich to point that out. Picard and Data did larp on the holodeck together, but it all still felt very formal. They also mention how every other person aside from Picard had a close relationship with Data. Geordi is ofc the obvious one, but the others got their moments as well. Think of Troi what you want, but the two of them actually had a really underrated emotional bond that I always appreciated. Aside from that one time when he stabbed her (and in all fairness, he wasn't really aiming for her), he treated her very gently and always sought her out whenever he was experiencing something that needed a better emotional understanding of.
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Picard was more of a father figure to data than actual soong.

They certainly had a bond after Measure of a Man. Even Generations had a nice scene with them in astrometrics.

You could do something there I'm sure, but modern Hollywood has too many daddy issues to even do a solid relationship like the two had.
 
Flexo said:
Picard was more of a father figure to data than actual soong.

They certainly had a bond after Measure of a Man. Even Generations had a nice scene with them in astrometrics.

You could do something there I'm sure, but modern Hollywood has too many daddy issues to even do a solid relationship like the two had.
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If CBS had any balls they'd have based Picard and Data's relationship, along with Data's artwork, on Gazorra's TNGedits.

 
KrewlKween said:
They're right, Data and Picard were never super close friends.
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I think that's the legacy of the films. After "First Contact", Data became the most important character after Picard, presumably because audiences liked the action-hero android (remember that bullshit "lock and load" line from "Insurrection"?). It was necessary then for Data and Picard to become super best friends, with Data finally sacrificing himself in the last film.

I agreed with most of what they said, and I also didn't hate the episode. It was watchable. I am also now pretty curious about "The Orville".
 
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