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Supposedly you still get full payouts and those might be glitches. Why it happened I can't say, but people are getting the old payouts regardless of what it says.

Not sure if that makes it better or worse.
I tested it last night. I got $75 for my $250 moonshine delivery. Rockstar can eat a bag of baboon cocks. I want the $175 wild west fun bucks I'm owed cockstar!!!
 
I tested it last night. I got $75 for my $250 moonshine delivery. Rockstar can eat a bag of baboon cocks. I want the $175 wild west fun bucks I'm owed cockstar!!!
Then they patched it to match or it's even more broken than they originally said. You sure you delivered all bottles and the game didn't break any due to a glitch?

I mean this thing is such a clusterfuck right now; people are losing recipes, crashing like crazy, animals are gone again, there's ghost wagons riding along, etc. So I wouldn't be surprised if it thought you broke some bottles. Try the trader shit and see if that pays more or matches the payout, because if they did this then they effectively killed the game.
 
Then they patched it to match or it's even more broken than they originally said. You sure you delivered all bottles and the game didn't break any due to a glitch?

I mean this thing is such a clusterfuck right now; people are losing recipes, crashing like crazy, animals are gone again, there's ghost wagons riding along, etc. So I wouldn't be surprised if it thought you broke some bottles. Try the trader shit and see if that pays more or matches the payout, because if they did this then they effectively killed the game.
All bottles delivered with minimal damage. I don't get how such a minor update completely fucked up the game. They aren't even addressing that's its muffed up. I was going to test trader last night but it was so frustrating with online lag and dealing with two separate game crashes, I just gave up. I'm not being paid to be a play tester for Rockstar if their shit is broken to the point it is barely playable.
 
It's been brought up in the GTA thread, but it really is looking like this was rushed out the door in order to not have GTA Online have two updates out before Red Dead Online got one.

Also, I didn't realize but RDO has only had 8 updates since launch?
 
Is there any developer that isn't rawdogging us without lube?

People don't like to hear it, but apparently Ubisoft is doing a good job since Watchdog Legion actually got story DLC and a lot of people are telling me it's better or at least makes the base game better.
 
I know this thread is old and dead, Red Dead if you will, but I just wanted to come here and say that Sadie Adler is the worst character in RDR2.
Please for gods sake no!
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Sadie was such an awful forced strong woman character that is found in every single fucking game these days. The only reason people don't hate her is cause shes a woman. Her character arc was shit.
 
Please for gods sake no!
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Sadie was such an awful forced strong woman character that is found in every single fucking game these days. The only reason people don't hate her is cause shes a woman. Her character arc was shit.

Sadie wasn't even the best female in the game either! I thought Black Belle was a hell of a lot cooler and would probably actually be a fun protagonist herself.

I think they could have had something good and interesting with Sadie Adler, tbh, but I felt as if her character arc was incredibly rushed. I think I would have been more open to how she ended up if they used a slow burn approach to her.
 
Please for gods sake no!
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Sadie was such an awful forced strong woman character that is found in every single fucking game these days. The only reason people don't hate her is cause shes a woman. Her character arc was shit.
Hard disagree. I liked her a lot, but I do have to agree her arc does sort of does feel forced a bit sometimes. Claiming people only don't hate her because she's a woman is just an incredibly retarded take, though.
 
Hard disagree. I liked her a lot, but I do have to agree her arc does sort of does feel forced a bit sometimes. Claiming people only don't hate her because she's a woman is just an incredibly retarded take, though.
Shes a murderous psychopath that frequently puts the gang in danger at the mention of Odriscoll. She even takes away choice from the player at the end of the game.

The only people i have seen defending her is cause shes "omg a strong wamen" or cause they have a crush on her. I have for exampel never seen someone comment on dialogue they like from her. What do you like about Sadie then?
 
Sadie feels like she had a lot of cut content tbqh. I don't know if she actually did, but it felt like it.
 
Shes a murderous psychopath that frequently puts the gang in danger at the mention of Odriscoll. She even takes away choice from the player at the end of the game.

The only people i have seen defending her is cause shes "omg a strong wamen" or cause they have a crush on her. I have for exampel never seen someone comment on dialogue they like from her. What do you like about Sadie then?
First of all, because I sympathy with her backstory, Her husband who she clearly loved dearly was brutally murdered in front her, she was raped, and beaten for three days straight, and her house burnt down with everything she had in it. It's more than a little understandable that she went insane. After all she's been through, it makes sense that she went crazy.

Sadie wasn't born into the life of an outlaw. She was forced into it after everything was taken from her. She even says after what's happened, she's never letting anyone take anything from her ever again.

Secondly, she's one of the only gang members besides Charles, and John who actually goes out of their way to do the right thing, and get shit done, regardless of how chaotic, and unconventional the plan is. I mean, her plan for busting out John involved a using a hot air balloon for fuck's sake. The girl gets points for creativity.

Yeah, the pilot dies, which is actually really sad because he's such a nice a character, but I think that was to show just how much Sadie has lost it. It really sucks that what was essentially a homesteader wife has turned into a violent, ruthless killer due to her rage, trauma, and grief. I'm not trying to excuse, but it makes sense with her, and even more so when you realize no one's actually tried to help her deal with her pain in a healthy way because they themselves don't know how to do that.

Thirdly, being a crazy violent psycho who puts the gang in danger is nowhere near a trait only limited to her, either. Dutch, Micah, and to a lesser extent, Bill, also do the exact same thing. I don't know why you're so hung about her when most of the problems you have with her are much more prominent in other characters. Again, I'm not trying to excuse it when Sadie does it, but she is by far not the only one who pulls this shit.

Fourthly, she robs you of choice? I mean, I guess so...? But the entire game basically does that in general with how much it railroads you, and with how everyone in it with the exception of a very small handful of characters are complete and utter fucking idiots. Again, I don't know why you're mad at her specifically when this problem isn't even that big of a deal in her when compared to it being a much bigger one in everyone, and everything else.

With that said, do I think Sadie's a perfect character? No, not all. A lot of her shit is very poorly-paced, and seems to come the fuck out of nowhere, and I really wish we got to see her develop a lot more on-screen, and not off it. I also would've liked to see her have some closure, or I don't know, be able to help her process through her trauma a much healthier way so she didn't fly off the handle all the time and cause problems. Again, I understand why she does it, but I wish that someone in the story had tried to fix it in the right way that didn't result in more bloodshed.

I wish we could've given her the wedding photo of her and her husband you can find her house before it burns down. Maybe that would've reminded her to be person her husband fell in love with, and not the psychotic one she is now. I dunno, I just think that was a huge missed opportunity that would've solved at least a few problems.
 
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I'm gonna start a very vicious argument and say that Red Dead 1 was better than 2. The shooting felt better, the horses controlled well and were fast, and as good as the RPG stuff was in 2, I preferred not having to micromanage so much shit and be a cowboy in an open world cowboy game
 
I'm gonna start a very vicious argument and say that Red Dead 1 was better than 2. The shooting felt better, the horses controlled well and were fast, and as good as the RPG stuff was in 2, I preferred not having to micromanage so much shit and be a cowboy in an open world cowboy game
And I'm going to completely agree with you. The only things RDR2 has over the first game is better graphics, a lot more hidden details, more variety, and much more memorable characters.

Everything else like the score, the atmosphere, the plot, the side-quests, the gameplay, the controls, etc., are done much better in Read Dead 1.
 
I think the story of RDR2 beats out RDR1, but RDR1 was a far better game.

Go figure, I also complain a lot that too much focus on plot takes away from games.
 
An update on the horses: The Silver Dappled Pinto is still technically available via Albert Mason's sidequest, but HOLY FUCKING SHIT is it not worth it. Getting this thing was a complete fucking nightmare, and l strongly do not recommend it to anyone.

You have to carefully track from Emerald Ranch all the way to Kamassa river, and even then, the tracking lines will be practically unmanageable once you get there. The tracking lines zigzag, go in circles , backtrack, crisscross streams, everything, and sometimes they just vanish completely. And even when you do find the horse, you have to jump onto it from your own horse.

You cannot mount in any other ways. Lassoing, shooting, trying to calm it (that command just isn't available at all during this) crashing your own horse into it, nothing else works. I should know. I tried everything. You have to jump on it, and then try to break it in, and god help you, because that thing's a high stamina horse, which means the breaking mechanic is gonna be long, and difficult.

And if it throws you off, it just straight-up fucking despawns. I saw it happen right on-screen. It bucked me off, I crashed right into a fucking tree and almost died because I was on low health because of all the other collusions with trees, rocks, the horse itself I had already had, and the damn horse vanished right before my eyes. I almost gave up after that.

Almost.

I gave it one last shot, and some-fucking-how, I got it. I made the quickest and yet slowest beeline to the nearest Stable I could, be exceedingly careful not to do anything that would get me bucked off, because even once you get it tamed, if you get off it you can't get back on it unless, (presumably), you jump back on it from your other horse.

I somehow made it to the Stable without anything bad happening, saved, and reloaded the game (you can't actually properly dismount, and remount the damn thing until you do this), and once I saw everything was somehow still working like it should, I saved again, and shut off the damn thing off.

Good fucking god.

Tl;dr: You can still get the Silver Dappled Pinto, but it will take years off your life. Stick with the Amber Champagne if you want a Fox Trotter, or a Brindle Thoroughbred if you want a silvery horse.
 
Final update on the horses: The Dark Bay Turkoman is still stupidly easy to get via the mission "Horse Flesh for Dinner". All you have to do is get it to level one bonding via feeding and brushing it using the weapon wheel (you won't get the normal option like you do with regular horses), and make sure you see that little white horse icon on the map before finishing the mission.

That last part is the most important. You have to make it your temporary horse, or else this won't work.

Once you have that, finish the mission, and get back to it as soon as possible. It should still be there. Then like always make a beeline to the nearest Stable and stable it. Make sure to save immediately afterwards, and reload the game, or else you won't be able to properly interact with it (you'll be able to mount it, but not pat, feed, brush, etc. like you can with your other horses), and the Braithwaite branding on its ass should disappear, too (not that that effects anything anymore, but still).

After all that, it should be yours if everything goes correctly. By the way, this works with the other Braithwaite horses you steal in the mission, too.

Tl;dr: The Dark Bay Turkoman is still available in a ridiculously easy way and the fact that Rockstar still hasn't patched this out yet is fucking baffling. Not that I'm complaining, though.
 
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