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Online didn't cause it. Rockstar was still patching shit for single player. As far as I know single player plays like GTAV's in that it's a separate beast with different graphics qualities and AI behavior.

Rockstar is just shit at maintaining or fixing their games. They tried fixing an exploit in single player that let you get to New Austin early so you could unlock that final costume thingy by doing all the challenges without having to wait for Epilogue. Introduced a bunch of other problems in the process, this was before Online released. Everything else worked fine, very little problems, but trying to fix that one exploit - that harmed no one, mind - opened a floodgate where they kept making shit worse each time and trying to fix the last thing they broke. Their code is like Jenga or some shit.

They specifically reduced graphical quality in the console versions when Online launched so pretty sure it had something to do with it.

Not to mention the "aren't you freezing?" glitch is a direct result of them messing with weather variable for online features.
 
They specifically reduced graphical quality in the console versions when Online launched so pretty sure it had something to do with it.

Not to mention the "aren't you freezing?" glitch is a direct result of them messing with weather variable for online features.
That's very bizarre. They must really have their B Team on RDR2 then.

GTAV - as far as I know - kept a lot of that separate. Either way I stand by my statement of their incompetence. This sort of thing shouldn't be happening regardless of whether it's patching single player or online. It's the team at fault more than online's, mostly because everyone bought the single player already and Red Dead Online is still bringing money in -- albeit at the fraction of GTA Online. So corporate couldn't care less and honestly RDO gets plenty broken on its own plus ignored because GTAO is the real moneymaker

They should keep the programs separate, but I doubt they'll ever actually release RDR2 as a standalone -- unless they could charge you $60 again.
 
Why doesn't Red Dead Online bring as much money as GTA Online?
Less to do, everything in it is hideously overpriced. You can't even do heists and the legendary bounties get real boring real quick. Did I mention everything is hideously overpriced ( and most stuff is gated behind their premium currency ) ?
 
Why doesn't Red Dead Online bring as much money as GTA Online?
Basically what @White Devil said. They actually had the prices even fucking worse back in beta and when they fixed it people were happy, until they realized they also GIMPED ALL THE PAYOUTS AND ANIMAL PARTS SOLD. Basically changed nothing. That and they keep fucking with population density of each... I'll call it shard or session. Each shardession actually causes animals and people to despawn the more players there are on it. So the world is fucking empty unless you manage to make a solo lobby, which they don't give you as a default option to do and you have to go through the rigmarole of fucking with your router or internet settings.

It's like watching a retard trying to figure out why the hammer hurts when he slams it into his hand. They should be focusing on the story campaign as that's the big draw and separates it from GTAO, although they shouldn't force you into a party with random weirdos because that's just dumb. Has that dumb MMO vibe of "You're the chosen one, please ignore all the other chosen ones we expect you to party with in the game." Then again, the shit they're putting out in the last two Outlaw Passes is cause for alarm because they designed a voodoo outfit and gave us fursona buckles of the characters from the single player story. Lord knows who the fuck they have on board for writing.

EDIT: Nothing screams Wild West like a fucking voodoo practitioner.
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Also the outfit actually looks worse in game. At least on PS4.
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xfIQvVmEn24
I love how to comments keep going on about how this is barely an exaggeration. Rockstar needs to fix their shit.
This is the most accurate fucking thing I've ever seen.

Sorry to double-post, but I think there's now a glitch where characters now occasionally have their voices and lines mixed up. I went to go give Charles an item for a character request, and he immediately, very angrily, and rather unsurprisingly at this point said: "You're going to freeze in those clothes!"

What was surprising, though, is that he spoke in Bill's voice. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's one of Bill's lines. I know how Charles talks, and what he sounds like, and even when he's angry, he's not that aggressive (except for that one time, but whatever), and doesn't sound anything like Bill. What the actual fuck?
 
Jesus Christ it still hasnt been fixed?
Nope.

I really wasn't joking when I mentioned people deleting it off their harddrives and playing version 1.00

Apparently the glitches you have to deal with have become less of an issue than the glitches and graphical nerfs Rockstar has introduced after Online came out.

Sucks for PC though. I mean I know some people are pirating the first version released on PC but even that had downgrades and glitches from Online already implemented.

Really wish I would have kept my PS4 disk. I want to play it but not with this bullshit.

Apparently not. If this doesn't show how little Rockstar gives a shit about their campaigns after launch, nothing will.

Rockstar doesn't even really give much of a shit about their Online, either. The latest Outlaw Pass came with no update at all and just features a bunch of gaudy cosmetics that have been in the game for over 6 months now.

Makes you wonder if they are actually putting effort into GTA V's third re-release or if they're just arseing around.
 
Why doesn't Red Dead Online bring as much money as GTA Online?
Aside from the obvious less content, the wild west is less identifiable with modern gamers than modern Los Angeles.

Plus, the wild west is limiting. Modern LA has cars, boats, planes, and you can have content based on any theme, including the wild west. In the wild west you have horses and can only really do old west stuff.
 
I was going to get this now that I had some spare time in my life but it sounds like Rockstar screwed it all to hell. Guess I'll pass
 
I was going to get this now that I had some spare time in my life but it sounds like Rockstar screwed it all to hell. Guess I'll pass

If you can get it on PS4 or Xbox One physical I'd do it and just turn your internet off so you don't have to install any patches. Just make sure to save a lot.

But yeah definitely don't get it on PC. Besides the shit patches, Rockstar Games Launcher is an unholy abomination that requires you to be always online to play anything.
 
Basically what @White Devil said. They actually had the prices even fucking worse back in beta and when they fixed it people were happy, until they realized they also GIMPED ALL THE PAYOUTS AND ANIMAL PARTS SOLD. Basically changed nothing. That and they keep fucking with population density of each... I'll call it shard or session. Each shardession actually causes animals and people to despawn the more players there are on it. So the world is fucking empty unless you manage to make a solo lobby, which they don't give you as a default option to do and you have to go through the rigmarole of fucking with your router or internet settings.

It's like watching a retard trying to figure out why the hammer hurts when he slams it into his hand. They should be focusing on the story campaign as that's the big draw and separates it from GTAO, although they shouldn't force you into a party with random weirdos because that's just dumb. Has that dumb MMO vibe of "You're the chosen one, please ignore all the other chosen ones we expect you to party with in the game." Then again, the shit they're putting out in the last two Outlaw Passes is cause for alarm because they designed a voodoo outfit and gave us fursona buckles of the characters from the single player story. Lord knows who the fuck they have on board for writing.

EDIT: Nothing screams Wild West like a fucking voodoo practitioner.
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Also the outfit actually looks worse in game. At least on PS4.

If that character in the screenshot didn't have dreadlocks, Alice Cooper could probably sue for copyright infringement.

Glad I've always stuck to story mode, the game as it is [in story mode] is immersive as fuck and seeing characters running around dressed like Marilyn Manson went to clown school would fuck that all up.
 
Basically what @White Devil said. They actually had the prices even fucking worse back in beta and when they fixed it people were happy, until they realized they also GIMPED ALL THE PAYOUTS AND ANIMAL PARTS SOLD. Basically changed nothing. That and they keep fucking with population density of each... I'll call it shard or session. Each shardession actually causes animals and people to despawn the more players there are on it. So the world is fucking empty unless you manage to make a solo lobby, which they don't give you as a default option to do and you have to go through the rigmarole of fucking with your router or internet settings.

It's like watching a retard trying to figure out why the hammer hurts when he slams it into his hand. They should be focusing on the story campaign as that's the big draw and separates it from GTAO, although they shouldn't force you into a party with random weirdos because that's just dumb. Has that dumb MMO vibe of "You're the chosen one, please ignore all the other chosen ones we expect you to party with in the game." Then again, the shit they're putting out in the last two Outlaw Passes is cause for alarm because they designed a voodoo outfit and gave us fursona buckles of the characters from the single player story. Lord knows who the fuck they have on board for writing.

EDIT: Nothing screams Wild West like a fucking voodoo practitioner.
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Also the outfit actually looks worse in game. At least on PS4.
Considering a big chunk of Red Dead's map is Not-Louisiana, I don't see what the complaint is about the voodoo guy... point of the story is that the Western outlaws are getting pushed into the East.
 
Considering a big chunk of Red Dead's map is Not-Louisiana, I don't see what the complaint is about the voodoo guy... point of the story is that the Western outlaws are getting pushed into the East.
Nobody in Not Louisiana wore something like that in the main campaign and it actually looks worse in game. They seem to think more like Doc Brown than Marty McFly does in terms of fashion for the old west.

I shit you not, most of their newer shit is in line with this:
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Or something you'd expect out of Trigun:
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