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To go back to my earlier post on why some horses don't seem to match their in-game given stats and temperaments, some dude on reddit did a ton of research into this, and it turns out, at least for temperments, that while it is partially based on rng the main contributing factor for it seems to be based on how big they are. The guy states that literally the bigger the horse, the bigger chance for it to have a better temperament.
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Tl;dr-The temperments on horses in RDR2 and RDO are based on both rng and the overall size of the horse, and nothing else. So while it is possible to get a courageous Arabian, and a cowardly Turkoman, it is very unlike given how much the size factor of the horse plays in.
 

A bit late since 1.22 was released today but patch 1.21 was so bad that it made the game borderline unplayable. Considering GTAO just released the Summer update makes me wonder if they just pushed 1.21 out the door so they could get back to their cash cow faster.
 
i finally bought the game (and spider-man) after several months of waiting since it's release. i am now on chapter 2 and i have no clue what the hell im actually supposed to be doing
 
i finally bought the game (and spider-man) after several months of waiting since it's release. i am now on chapter 2 and i have no clue what the hell im actually supposed to be doing
Okay, I'm just gonna give some basic, overall tips.

1) Get the White Arabian. It's located by Lake Isabella up in the snowy mountains which also has one of the legendary animals by it. The White Arabian is incredibly fast, has great stamina, and health, and is easily one of the best horses in the game. You can obtain it by breaking it in. There's a really fast way to do this. Just shoot it. Seriously. Just shoot it until it falls down, get off your horse, and stab a horse revive into it, get on it, and then break that fucker in. This works because the breaking minigame's length depends on how much energy the horse's stamina bar has. A newly revived horse is weak, and tired af, and can be broken in less than fifteen seconds.

Make sure to pack a set of winter clothes, at least two horse revives which can be bought at the Stables, and make sure to save before entering the area. I forgot to do the first part on my first attempt and it backfired horribly. Also, be careful. Wolves can and will spawn up there, and there is a chance for a random encounter with some guy having to be saved by them. Wolves will spook your horse and get you thrown off if you're not careful, so always make sure to have you gun drawn, and ready as you get up there.

Lastly, other Arabians are available, but they are much, much more difficult to get imo. The Warped Brindle is located in horrible terrain on a cliff near the Wapiti Reservation, and it can and will run directly towards that area, and despawn. The Red Arabian is located south-west of lake Owanjila which is located by the town of Strawberry, and it is in a location were a ton of random encounters can happen, bears can spawn, and the terrain is an utter nightmare to navigate. The Black Arabian can be obtained via a random encounter I described a few pages back, but this is entirely random and can take for fucking ever.

2) There is a Perlino Andalusian a.k.a a pinkish-white warhorse you can break-in near the waterfall by Brandywine Drop located in the northeastern part of the map by Annesburg. It's got amazing health, and a usually (see my prior post on horse temperaments) courageous temperament which makes it fantastic for battle, and hunting. The only problem is that its by a cliff right next to a waterfall, dead smack right in the middle Murfree Brood country, and it's constantly fucking raining. This one's gonna be hard to get, but it's worth it if you don't have the preorder warhorse because it has the exact same stats as it.

3) Keep the Black Shire. Not only is he the most badass looking horse in the entire game, he's also the only one of his kind. All the other shires are brown or grey. If you sell him, you can't get another one. Also, he's programmed to always have a courageous temperament which makes him great for battling and hunting.

4) Always shoot before entering a covered bridge. Gangs like to hide out at the sides of them and ambush you. Shooting through the bridge first gives them away.

5) You can keep more than one pelt on your horse at a time. I know that sounds really obvious, but I literally went through my entire first playthrough not knowing that.

6) Make sure to change your clothes before you enter into camp if you went hunting so other gang members won't comment on you being covered in blood and gore.

7) Learn how to craft poison, and improved arrows ASAP. They make hunting much easier and rewarding because you get better pelts by using them.

8 ) Hunt the Legendary animals. You can do this in no particular order, but you have a chance to start with the Legendary Bear during the same mission you get the Black Shire. I recommend getting the bear, and then immediately getting the Legendary Buck because you can craft the Legendary Buck Antler trinket that raises the chance for better pelts. Legendary pelts are perfect no matter what so feel free to use whatever ammo you want on them.

9) Sell Legendary pelts to the trapper, and perfect pelts to both the trapper and to Pearson because they'll craft special items and upgrades for you.

10) Do the horse races. There's are random encounters with people who will challenge you to horse races, and if you beat them, you unlock better stats for your horses, and the ability to bond with them faster. Also, the NPCs will have really great horses you can steal from them afterward like the Brindle Thoroughbred.

11) Make sure to upgrade and donate to the camp so the gang members will be nicer, donate more, and so you can upgrade fast-travel, and other stuff. Most importantly, so Susan won't bitch at you every time you step foot into camp.

12) Don't sell items unless you know you can't craft with them, or they're not item requests from other characters. Not doing so can lock you out of trinkets, and talismans which can buff your stats, and the latter can prevent you from completing the requests.

13) If you suddenly hear someone shouting about a pox, or you suddenly see a lynched man swinging from a tree, do not stop. It's a trap by the Murfree Brood (although the latter can happen in the swamps in which case it's the Night Folk), and they will gun you down.

14) Do not run back to camp if you're being chased by lawmen, bounty hunters, or other gangs because that will lead to a game over.

15) Bond with your horse because that'll make it braver, raise its stats, increase the range of its response to your whistling. Also, having a full-bonded horse with you during the last mission will make the entire thing much better

16) Make sure to feed, properly cloth, clean, groom, and rest Arthur. It'll keep up his health, stamina, and deadeye meters. Also, the guy's gonna be going through absolute hell, so you can at least try to keep him as comfortable as possible.

17) Donate food to the camp, or else people will be mad at you, and so you can get honor. Apparently, Arthur is the only one who feeds the camp despite there being at least six other people more than qualified to do so.

18 ) There's a mission where you have to either break into a place to steal a wagon, or just steal one on the road. Please, for the love of god, just steal one on the road because it is a million times easier.

19) If you want raise honor fast, just go to Saint Denis and start greeting people.

20) Chapter 5 is fucking awful, and you'll want to rush through it as quickly as possible, but it takes place in a location you can never go back to and has plants and animals you can only find there. If you don't scan them, you can't get 100% completion. So even though you probably want to get this chapter over as soon as possible, and the entire location is an utter bitch to navigate, please take the time to scan all the wildlife, and floral life there. EDIT: THIS IS NO LONGER THE CASE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET EVERY PLANT AND ANIMAL TO GET 100% ANYMORE SO DON'T WASTE MORE TIME ONE SHITTY OLD GAUARMA THAN YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.

Edit: Bonus tips that are also very important.


21) Pay attention to what your horse is doing. If its suddenly panicking for seemingly no reason, that means its usually seeing something that you aren't, and is trying to warn you. This could range from either an unseen predator, to a dead body, to an ambush. This can and will save you on multiple occasions, so make sure to do it.

22) Speaking of horses, there's a hidden trinket you can get in a secret location located near the very farthest eastern part of the map that raises the speed you bond with them. It's the Sharktooth trinket, and it's located in a shipwreck northeast of Annesburg. Go to the area with the rock covered in ancient runes, and then up that cliffside, and then keep going along the edge of that area. You can only get to the shipwreck on foot since you have to cross narrow slopes, and do some light platforming so be sure to hitch your horse somewhere close, and safe.

23) DO. NOT. Do the last sidequest involving Hamish and Buell until the epilogue. You will not be able to keep Buell otherwise.

24) Last thing about horses. They can swim, and they can swim with you still riding them. They can't do this for very long, but they can do it, and it will save your ass at least once in the game.

25) You can quick-fire if you tap the right trigger button. I discovered this on accident when I tried to talk to a lady, accidentally hit the wrong button, and completely blew off her head with a point-blank sawed-off shotgun blast to the face. It was really fucking funny.

26) Enemies can bleed out if you shoot their limbs off.

27) Make sure to not have incendiary rounds equipped when you're robbing a house. You will regret it.

...and finally, and most importantly,

28 ) DO NOT. I REPEAT, DO NOT. GO TO ABERDEEN PIG FARM UNTIL THE SECOND TO LAST MISSION OF THE MAIN STORY. THIS IS SUPER FUCKING IMPORTANT. DO NOT GO THERE UNTIL THE SECOND TO LAST MISSION OF THE MAIN STORY.

WHEN YOU GO THERE, JUST LET IT HAPPEN. LET THE SCENE PLAY OUT. EAT THE STEW, WAKE UP, AND JUST FINISH THE MAIN STORY. DO NOT GO BACK TO THEIR HOUSE UNTIL THE EPILOGUE. I KNOW YOU'LL REALLY WANT TO GO BACK THERE BEFORE THEN, BUT DON'T. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. YOU'RE GONNA BE FINE.

ONCE YOU GET TO THE EPILOGUE, GO BACK THERE, KILL THE FUCKERS, AND THEN LOOK BEHIND THE PAINTING OF THEIR MOTHER, AND THERE YA GO. I JUST SAVED YOU SO MUCH FUCKING TIME. YOU'RE WELCOME.

Edit 2: I didn't think I'd ever have to say this because I myself didn't even know this was possible, but...

29 ) Don't upgrade the camp during Chapter 1. Again, I didn't even think this was possible considering how the entire chapter is based around getting the fuck out of the freezing mountains, but lo-and-behold, it apparently is because someone who just got the game told me that's what they had been doing and was wondering why the fuck all the other gang members were mad at them.

Don't do it. Wait until Chapter 2 to do camp upgrades. The gang is gonna be pissed no matter what during Chapter 1 because they're stuck up in the cold-ass, snowy mountains, and they will keep telling you they wanna leave because why the fuck would they wanna stay up there? No amount of upgrades is going to make them happy until at least Chapter 2 so don't even bother upgrading until then.

Edit 3:

30) CHRIST ALMIGHTY YOU CAN CHANGE THE FISHING CONTROLS. JUST GO INTO SETTINGS, SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN, AND YOU CAN CHANGE IT SO ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS HOLD DOWN A BUTTON TO REEL IN FISH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO KILL YOUR THUMBS AND CONTROLLER. WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME SOONER?!?!

USE THIS KNOWLEDGE, AND SOME RIVER LURES YOU CAN GET AT LAGRAS AND GO FISH SOCKEYE SALMON FROM O'CREAGH'S RUN BY FISHING ON THE DOCK BY HAMISH'S HOUSE. THEN GO TO SAINT DENNIS OR RHODES AND YOU CAN SELL THEM FOR $5.31 A PIECE AND NET YOURSELF OVER $500 DOLLARS BY SELLING THE MAX AMOUNT YOU CAN CARRY.
 
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I wonder if my Arthur would still be alive if I went with John to safety in the final battle, instead of getting greedy and going for the cash, where Micah killed me.

I'll never know. Except that I made the wrong decision.
 
I wonder if my Arthur would still be alive if I went with John to safety in the final battle, instead of getting greedy and going for the cash, where Micah killed me.

I'll never know. Except that I made the wrong decision.
Micah tracks you down and beats the piss out of you regardless of what you choose, because he's a cunt. Your honor determines whether or not he gets to finish you off.

I recently finished it myself. It's an absolute monster of a game, and I found myself growing slightly frightened as it just kept going on and on and the polish never diminished. I recall the controversy over the long crunch suffered by the developers, and I'm glad their suffering resulted in such a high-quality experience. It's not terribly impressive from a gameplay perspective, as every combat encounter can be solved by simply stuffing your cheeks full of chewing tobacco like you're doing a chipmunk impression, but the lengths Rockstar went to in order to make the most immersive western simulator possible is truly staggering.

I have yet to look at the online portion of the game, but I'm not sure I want to spend any more time with it now that I've spent nearly as much time on a single playthrough as I spent on the entirety of Skyrim. I might spend a couple of hours on it just out of morbid curiosity after hearing about what a shitty grindfest it is. I have no idea what it could offer that the singleplayer campaign doesn't.
 
I have yet to look at the online portion of the game, but I'm not sure I want to spend any more time with it now that I've spent nearly as much time on a single playthrough as I spent on the entirety of Skyrim. I might spend a couple of hours on it just out of morbid curiosity after hearing about what a shitty grindfest it is. I have no idea what it could offer that the singleplayer campaign doesn't.
The only reasons to play online is for the horses not available in single-player.

And for the chance to run into these guys.
Thumbnail and title are clickbaity shit, but the impressions are on point, and hilarious af.
 
tracks you down and beats the piss out of you regardless of what you choose, because he's a cunt. Your honor determines whether or not he gets to finish you.

Good to know. I was taking the Honour system seriously at first, but I found it harder and harder to keep obeying the law so easily. Horse controls are Garbage, so I trampled a lot of people and caused plenty "horse crashes".

I want to play through full again but my PS4 is getting old already and fumes up my fan when I play a big game like RDR2.

It took me almost two years to find the time to finish the thing. I havent even finished the Epilogue with John either.
 
Horse controls are Garbage, so I trampled a lot of people and caused plenty "horse crashes".
This is something I've noticed, too.

For me, it's not the controls that the issue. It's that NPCs seem to be almost programmed to dive right in front of you. Saint Denis is a perfect example of this happening. You'll be walking down the road slowly, and carefully trying to avoid people, but they'll just keep trying to run into you. I have no idea why this is, and it's super fucking annoying.

Another example is that there seems to be a glitch where NPCs will just spawn out of nowhere. There have been countless times when I've been going down an open, empty road, with perfect visibility, and suddenly I just crash into a horse, or wagon that wasn't there a second ago. I don't get it. I don't understand it, and I absolutely fucking hate it.

Same thing goes with the horses randomly deciding not to automatically jump over things even though they've done it before. "Yeah, just collide right with that rock, boy. Don't automatically leap over it like you did the last one. I'm not mad at all."

I actually wouldn't be surprised if there was a hidden horse intelligence stat, too, considering how wildly their intelligence seems to fluctuate.
 
i am now on chapter 5 and im enjoying the game. finally got used to the controls, and dammit dutch you had one plan, we were gonna go to tahiti and become mango farmers. now hosea and lenny are fuckin dead
 
Off-topic, and it might just be me getting into the Halloween spirit, but apparently there's two bodies you can find in this game which are a reference to Sleepy Hollow, and I just think that's really cool.
 
and now ive completed arthur's story. he got the tb, i made him look like walter white with him being bald and a goatee, and in the end he dies along on a mountain after fighting micah. screw dutch and him. arthur deserved better
 
update: i forgot to save my progress and now im back in guarma. i was literally a few missions away from completing the epilogue. i am not gonna replay every mission from 5 all the way to where i was just to catch up and instead just watched someone play the end of the game
 
Some files for Online were leaked, and it looks like we're getting zombies for Halloween. Well, either that, or possessed cultists.
 
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I need to suck it up and just play the damn thing. I know what happens, I know what's going on but for some reason, it's been REALLY hard for me to stay dedicated to it; there's a lot of little nitpicks that I hate - the horse choosing when and when not to avoid obstacles, my weapons never seeming to stay on me when I dismount quickly, lawmen that have absolutely nothing better to do than follow me for several miles because I accidentally insulted someone which resulted in a fist-fight where *I* got in trouble though it was self-defence, not being able to skip skinning animations, etc. A lot of little things that built up coupled with my innate desire to meander around and try to complete everything I can before doing the main story.
 
I'm going through my second playthrough. I really did thoroughly enjoy this game. It just took me so long to finish because it runs my PS4 fan really high and I'm not trusting it can take so much, I dont want it fried because it's how I get TV.

But I was really hooked to the finale. I can really feel it building and tensing. But I have one nagging question...

Why was Dutch so outraged at me choosing to rescue the Native American boy? I thought I saw Dutch at his worst when he coldly murdered the Italian Mob Boss, but i knew i was truly done with Dutch when the camera shot showed only his feet walk away from me as I was ambushed. I knew why, Dutch felt betrayed somehow, by me being a "Big Hero" for rescuing Eagle Flies. This was a story I loved, I just didnt get why Dutch was so pissed at me for doing it.
 
I'm going through my second playthrough. I really did thoroughly enjoy this game. It just took me so long to finish because it runs my PS4 fan really high and I'm not trusting it can take so much, I dont want it fried because it's how I get TV.

But I was really hooked to the finale. I can really feel it building and tensing. But I have one nagging question...

Why was Dutch so outraged at me choosing to rescue the Native American boy? I thought I saw Dutch at his worst when he coldly murdered the Italian Mob Boss, but i knew i was truly done with Dutch when the camera shot showed only his feet walk away from me as I was ambushed. I knew why, Dutch felt betrayed somehow, by me being a "Big Hero" for rescuing Eagle Flies. This was a story I loved, I just didnt get why Dutch was so pissed at me for doing it.
Everything in the game can be answered with one simple phrase.

Dutch is a retard
 
I'm going through my second playthrough. I really did thoroughly enjoy this game. It just took me so long to finish because it runs my PS4 fan really high and I'm not trusting it can take so much, I dont want it fried because it's how I get TV.

But I was really hooked to the finale. I can really feel it building and tensing. But I have one nagging question...

Why was Dutch so outraged at me choosing to rescue the Native American boy? I thought I saw Dutch at his worst when he coldly murdered the Italian Mob Boss, but i knew i was truly done with Dutch when the camera shot showed only his feet walk away from me as I was ambushed. I knew why, Dutch felt betrayed somehow, by me being a "Big Hero" for rescuing Eagle Flies. This was a story I loved, I just didnt get why Dutch was so pissed at me for doing it.
I think it has something to do with him being worried about you getting caught, and ratting out the gang. That, and nothing Dutch does in the latter half the game really makes any sense.

Everything in the game can be answered with one simple phrase.

Dutch is a retard
This, but unironically.
 
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