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Chris really evolved from a "lolcow" to a "Horrorcow" huh?

We basically spent the past few years watching someone descend deeper and deeper into madness. Just the idea that a mind could slowly deteriorate to the point where you start a one-person cult devoted to yourself and rape your own mother is fucking horrifying.
 
Smithfield Ham said:
Chris really evolved from a "lolcow" to a "Horrorcow" huh?

We basically spent the past few years watching someone descend deeper and deeper into madness. Just the idea that a mind could slowly deteriorate to the point where you start a one-person cult devoted to yourself and rape your own mother is fucking horrifying.
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Honestly the Michael Snider incident should have made Chris get a compulsory psychoanalysis so he could have gotten real help, even if it was at proverbial gunpoint.
 
Kyria the Great said:
Honestly the Michael Snider incident should have made Chris get a compulsory psychoanalysis so he could have gotten real help, even if it was at proverbial gunpoint.
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One of the greatest tragedies of Chris' life is that the city he lives in is absolutely not equipped to deal with mental health issues. It's like the fucking Middle Ages over there.
 
Smithfield Ham said:
One of the greatest tragedies of Chris' life is that the city he lives in is absolutely not equipped to deal with mental health issues. It's like the fucking Middle Ages over there.
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I don't know about Ruckersville/Charlottesville/BigIsland specifically, but this entire country refuses to treat mental illness unless a parent / guardian / loved one fights vociferously for it (Bob and Barb did the exact opposite of that, fighting passionately to keep Chris OUT of special ed and preventing him from getting any form of mental healthcare.). The standard course of action is to pretend that the crazies are normal, throw them into a society that they do not understand and cannot function in, act surprised when they do something horrible, and then bounce them between jail, the ER, and the gutter.

If Chris had gotten the mental healthcare than he so desperately needed early in his life, so much of this could have been avoided.
 
Smithfield Ham said:
One of the greatest tragedies of Chris' life is that the city he lives in is absolutely not equipped to deal with mental health issues. It's like the fucking Middle Ages over there.
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There was something like 19 other kids at his elementary school with autism and they were handled just fine. The issue with Chris was two fold. One, his parents adamantly denied any treatment, and two, he's not as mentally challenged as people think.

You can't just throw someone into a padded cell and a straight jacket because they think magic hedgehogs are talking to them in America.
 
Acoustic Virgin said:
I don't know about Ruckersville/Charlottesville/BigIsland specifically, but this entire country refuses to treat mental illness unless a parent / guardian / loved one fights vociferously for it (Bob and Barb did the exact opposite of that, fighting passionately to keep Chris OUT of special ed and preventing him from getting any form of mental healthcare.). The standard course of action is to pretend that the crazies are normal, throw them into a society that they do not understand and cannot function in, act surprised when they do something horrible, and then bounce them between jail, the ER, and the gutter.

If Chris had gotten the mental healthcare than he so desperately needed early in his life, so much of this could have been avoided.
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I grew up with autism in the 80s and 90s and my mom couldn't get any help for me from the school and unlike Chris' parents mine couldn't afford to move. The school refused to do anything besides put me in special education, now keep in mind that in first grade I was making my own math tests with multiplication and division because I was board by the ones handed out. My problem was that I have trouble with reading and writing because the rules are not set in stone, letters can make more than one sound and that sort of thing and I was having trouble with that and I had trouble understanding things like sarcasm and jokes kids made so that gave me trouble relating to them. The school just wanted to stick me in the one special ed class they had where they were focusing on things like finger painting, so my mom just ended up home schooling me in the end without any help from the schools.

Autism is not well understood or dealt with by the schools and the same goes for any mental health issue.
 
BubbaRobot887 said:
Autism is not well understood or dealt with by the schools and the same goes for any mental health issue.
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It's true that autism is not very well understood, and it was even less well understood in the '80s and '90s when Chris was a kid.

It truly is a spectrum. You've got the good-at-math/really-into-trains folks, and you've got the "I sort glass" folks all under the same umbrella. As with most things, there's no one-size-fits-all solution -- any approach would need to be tailored to the individual's needs in order to be effective. Chris got cookie-cutter care at best, which isn't going to help much.

Even though Chris made his autism his entire personality, even without any psychiatric background, I am convinced that he has a collection of mental illnesses as well. For example, he's been popping SSRI medications forever, which are used to treat other conditions that often occur along with autism (but not for autism itself).

At a minimum, he never got any guidance -- guidance on how to interact with others, how to behave in public, how to act like a human being. Without that, he just did what felt good, and because he always got away with it, he never felt the need to change his ways.
 
ASeabear8952 said:
I refuse to believe that Chris is high-functioning. I believe he’s mid-functioning in the sense that he can live and survive independently, but still has his schizo fantasies that he constantly projects onto people and shapes his entire life as if he’s still a little kid.
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"High-Functioning" is a colloquial term and not a medical one. There's no medical standard for it beyond "He can speak in full sentences and occasionally doesn't shit his pants."
 
Acoustic Virgin said:
If Chris had gotten the mental healthcare than he so desperately needed early in his life, so much of this could have been avoided.
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ive come to believe speculation like this is more or less useless. so much stuff in his life was just completely fucked from the get-go that even if some things went right (like getting help) other things are so cursed that it wouldn't make a difference (like the parenting of bob and barb). at a certain point, the speculation becomes something like "What if chris-chan wasn't chris-chan" and in that case, what's the point? imo, his life is so unbelievably cursed and incomprehensible that we won't be able to fully sort it out in our lifetime. maybe future generations will be able to make sense of it and offer proper speculation with some sense of historical objectivity. but even that, I doubt.
 
Acoustic Virgin said:
Even though Chris made his autism his entire personality, even without any psychiatric background, I am convinced that he has a collection of mental illnesses as well. For example, he's been popping SSRI medications forever, which are used to treat other conditions that often occur along with autism (but not for autism itself).
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Chris fits almost all the criteria for Schizotypal Personality Disorder and I rarely see it brought up. He exhibits or has exhibited extreme social anxiety, strange word choice and cadence when speaking, odd emotional presentation that tends to be either flat or intense, eccentric behavior (and in particular odd/mismatched clothing and accessories,) paranoia and distrust of others, and few close relationships.

Most significantly, though, he exhibits delusional thinking without frank delusions. People with STPD often believe they have special powers, that people are conspiring against them, or that random events somehow have something to do with them, but unlike schizophrenics, those delusions exist alongside reality, and people with STPD are more often than not subconsciously aware that they aren't actually true. This, at least from what I've seen, fits Chris to a T.
 
Elite Kipchak said:
ive come to believe speculation like this is more or less useless
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In a way, I agree. There's clearly no fixing Chris at this point. The damage is done. He's a lost cause. The most anyone can do is contain him and his antics. And we can't go back in time to undo what's already been done.

On the other hand, I like to think that some good can come from all this -- that Chris may serve as a cautionary tale so that others may not end up like him.

Things didn't have to be this way. This wasn't inevitable. It's not solely the fault of the autism. It's not because people were mean to him on the internet.
What we see with Chris is the result of untreated mental illness.

I like to hope that parents of a special needs child will look at Chris and come to the realization that: "Oh, maybe he won't just grow out of it. We need to DO something."
 
themarchivist2 said:
Chris fits almost all the criteria for Schizotypal Personality Disorder and I rarely see it brought up. He exhibits or has exhibited extreme social anxiety, strange word choice and cadence when speaking, odd emotional presentation that tends to be either flat or intense, eccentric behavior (and in particular odd/mismatched clothing and accessories,) paranoia and distrust of others, and few close relationships.

Most significantly, though, he exhibits delusional thinking without frank delusions. People with STPD often believe they have special powers, that people are conspiring against them, or that random events somehow have something to do with them, but unlike schizophrenics, those delusions exist alongside reality, and people with STPD are more often than not subconsciously aware that they aren't actually true. This, at least from what I've seen, fits Chris to a T.
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I think with Chris, it's a mixture of his parents, bad upbringing, refusal to grow up, and just plain stupidity.

Take him thinking random events somehow having something to do with him. He doesn't really do that. I mean take his entire Putin invading Ukraine having something to do with MLP Season 5. That really doesn't have anything to do with him, save for the fact that he likes the show. He's not thinking that Putin did that specifically to target him and wreck his enjoyment of his show, he's just talking out of his ass and trying to sound like he has some sort of ESP or something. Similarly, while a lot of people think Trump does stuff to specifically target them, Chris really doesn't think that. He just hates Pmurt.

Chris thinking he has magical powers is similarly bullshit, and he knows it. Him thinking he has some kind of special powers because he can sit in a room for hours and daydream isn't really anything other than Chris trying to pretend he's the only person that can do that, and "normal" people can't. In that vein, he doesn't think he can run Sonic speed or fly, nor has his special powers gone beyond some really badly acted telekinesis or "Oh yeah, umm, I foresaw that, among which" after something has long happened.

The rest can be chalked up to other stuff, such as his clothes. Chris likes colors, so he wears stuff with lots of colors. Even when he puts together a costume, like Vinyl Scratch, it isn't that strange, nor is his choices in troon clothes. Denim skirt, leggings and sweater is pretty normal, the colors might not be, but it's not some strange fashion choice.

Chris doesn't really have social anxiety, he thinks he's some great e-celebrity when he goes places. He'll freely get up in the middle of a crowded room and make some homophobic joke, then beam when people laugh and clap at the response, thinking they're directing it at him. Similarly, he'll go on a full blown, loud tirade to a crowded hotel lobby with zero shame, let alone showing up at conventions and walking around, interacting with people without a care in the world. People with social anxiety don't do that.
 
Kyria the Great said:
Honestly the Michael Snider incident should have made Chris get a compulsory psychoanalysis so he could have gotten real help, even if it was at proverbial gunpoint.
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It did as part of his plea. He's been to court-mandated therapy a few other times.
Acoustic Virgin said:
(Bob and Barb did the exact opposite of that, fighting passionately to keep Chris OUT of special ed and preventing him from getting any form of mental healthcare.).
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They didn't keep him out of special ed.
 
I completely missed Chris getting hacked by crypto scammers.

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