Disaster Ramadan Bomb-a-thon 2017 Megathread - Making bad decisions while hungry

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The fact we have to collage all these terror stories into one thread is sad.

I mean, it's necessary to prevent forum clutter, but when are we going to say "enough"?
 
Let's not forget Mindanao in the Philippines, where DU30 has declared martial law and deployed air raids in Marawi, and there are reports that international terrorists linked to ISIS are said to be there:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.alja...et-fighters-holed-marawi-170525095048819.html

The Philippine army has launched air raids against ISIL-linked fighters who are hiding in a southern city they attacked earlier this week.


The siege of Marawi has sent thousands of people fleeing and prompting President Rodrigo Duterte to declare martial law in Mindanao region.

The "surgical air strikes" were aimed to flush out up to 40 fighters believed to be hiding in Marawi, Lieutenant-Colonel Jo-ar Herrera, a military spokesperson, said on Thursday.

A majority of the 200,000 residents have fled Marawi, about 800km south of the capital, Manila, but Herrera said those who remained had been warned to get out of the areas where there was bombing and fighting.

"We have identified targets that we need to clear," he said. "We need to neutralise the remnants of the local terrorist groups."

But the Philippine military has also suffered some setbacks, with local news media reporting that between six to eight soldiers died on Thursday alone.

That is in addition to the five soldiers and two police officers killed when the fighting started on Tuesday.

At least nine civilians were also reported killed on Wednesday.

The violence erupted on Tuesday after the army raided the hideout of Isnilon Hapilon, a commander of the Abu Sayyaf group, which has pledged allegiance to ISIL, or the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant group.

Abu Sayyaf called for reinforcements from an allied group, the Maute, and dozens of fighters managed to enter Marawi and sweep through its streets.

The fighters reportedly burned a Catholic church, the city jail, and two schools, as well as occupied the main streets and two bridges leading to Marawi.

Religious leaders have accused the fighters of taking a Catholic priest and his worshippers hostage and using them as human shields.

On Wednesday the military said they had killed at least 13 fighters.

Duterte submitted to Congress on Thursday the proclamation of martial law for review as required by the constitution.

The Philippine House of Representatives and the Senate were scheduled to convene on Monday to assess the declaration.

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Majul Gandamra, the mayor of Marawi, said many establishments were closed, making it difficult for those who are still in the municipality to purchase supplies.

"It's getting difficult for people to get their basic needs, like water and food," Gandamra told a Manila radio station.

"Our top priority is to give food, water and temporary shelter to residents.

"We are looking for an evacuation centre where there is no presence of the ISIL-related militants."


Soldiers, supported by tanks, moved through streets and houses as they scoured three villages in the area where the gunmen were reported to be moving around.

Checkpoints were established at entry and exit points of Marawi, while helicopters hovered over the city and more soldiers arrived in trucks to secure the municipality.

The military has placed units in different parts of Mindanao under high alert, including the city of Davao, Duterte's home town, where local authorities fear the fighters could attempt to stage retaliatory attacks.
 
I feel like I need to offer an explanation as to why there's so much terrorism during Ramadan, as most people have no idea. Muslims believe that, during Ramadan, your brownie points are doubled; in other words, your heavenly rewards for doing good deeds during Ramadan are multiplied. To ISIS and other terrorist groups, killing infidels (non-Muslims and the "wrong" type of Muslims) is a deed that already nets you great heavenly rewards (as the whole "72 virgins" thing attests to). So killing infidels during Ramadan will give you even more heavenly rewards (so, like... 144 virgins).

Unfortunately, the past few Ramadans have been bloodbaths. I'm really not looking forward to what this year has in store.
 
They could really use a Snickers bar.
 
More in the conflict in Mindanao:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bodies-c...ppines-city-besieged-islamists-054952668.html



Bodies of civilians dumped near Philippines city besieged by Islamists
Reuters
By Tom Allard 8 hours ago
By Tom Allard

MARAWI CITY, Philippines (Reuters) - Bodies of what appeared to be executed civilians were found in a ravine outside a besieged Philippine city on Sunday as a six-day occupation by Islamist rebels fending off a military onslaught took a more sinister turn.

The eight dead, most of them shot in the head and some with hands tied behind their backs, were laborers who were stopped by Islamic State-linked militants on the outskirts of Marawi City while trying to flee clashes, according to police.


Nine spent bullet casings were found on a blood-stained patch of road at the top of the ravine. Attached to one of the bodies was a sign that said "Munafik" (traitor).

The discovery confirms days of speculation that Maute rebels had killed civilians during a takeover of Marawi, that the military believes is aimed at winning the Maute recognition from the Islamic State as a Southeast Asian affiliate.

The fierce resistance of the Maute gunmen and the apparent executions of civilians will add to growing fears that subscribers to Islamic State's radical ideology are determined to establish a presence in the southern Philippines, with the support of extremists from Indonesia and Malaysia.

The army deployed more ground troops over the weekend and dispatched army and air force helicopters to carry out rocket strikes on Maute positions as fighters held buildings and a bridge deep inside a predominantly Muslim city where few civilians remained.

Some of those trapped in Marawi had called and text-messaged a hotline pleading with the military to stop the air strikes, according to Zia Alonto Adiong, a local politician coordinating complex efforts to evacuate civilians, dead and alive.

"Some have no food at all. Some fear for their lives," he told Reuters.

"This is a conflict that has gone beyond proportion. The magnitude of the degree of the damage and the people that are affected ... it's really massive."

At least 61 militants were killed and 15 security forces as of Saturday, according to the army, which said it could confirm nine civilians killed by militants.

At the ravine where the bodies were found, Marawi police officer Jamail C Mangadang said the victims were carpenters who were part of an evacuation convoy stopped by rebels late on Saturday.

Recalling information provided by their manager, Mangadang said the victims were pulled off a truck because they were unable to cite verses of the Koran, the Islamic holy text.

BRAZEN SIEGE

The military said it was possible there were others victims.

"This development validates a series of reports of atrocities committed by the militants earlier," said military spokesman, Restituto Padilla.

"We are still validating other reports of atrocities."

Islamic State's Amaq news agency last week claimed responsibility for the Maute's brazen siege. Unverified statements claiming to be from the extremists have appeared online, declaring the city of 200,000 people the "Islamic City of Marawi".

President Rodrigo Duterte on Sunday canceled a trip to Japan to address the unrest in Mindanao, an island of 22 million people where martial law has been declared. Police on Sunday outlawed guns there and suspended all weapons permits.

Fierce battles took place on Sunday as ground troops engaged Maute fighters with heavy gunfire and artillery. Plumes of smoke were seen on the horizon and helicopters unloaded rockets on rebel positions.

A surveillance drone circled the sky above Marawi. Some civilians tied white cloths to poles to distinguish themselves from militants as soldiers on foot huddled behind armored vehicles that crawled along deserted streets.

Tens of thousands of people have fled Marawi since Tuesday, when militants went on the rampage seizing a school, a hospital, and a cathedral, where Christians were taken hostage, according to church leaders. Scores of prisoners, among them militants, were freed when rebels took over two detention facilities.

The violence erupted in response to a failed attempt by security forces to capture Isnilon Hapilon, who the government believes is Islamic State's point-man in the Philippines.

The military is certain the Maute are protecting Hapilon and had narrowed down his location. Hapilon leads a radical faction of another Mindanao-based group, the Abu Sayyaf. [nL4N1IT057]

The little-known Maute group has staged several days-long sieges on Mindanao island but none on the scale of Marawi, where witnesses said flags resembling those of Islamic State had been flown and some gunmen wore black headbands.

The Maute group was blamed for last year's bombing in the president's home city, Davao, which killed 14 people, and its battlefield capability has been a serious challenge to a military that has far larger numbers and firepower. [nL4N1IQ1QK]

Another concern for the government was the discovery of Indonesian and Malaysian fighters with the Maute, which it said showed a domestic rebellion had expanded to become a far greater threat, driven by radical ideology.

(Reporting by Tom Allard; Additional reporting by Erik De Castro in MARAWI and Manuel Mogato in MANILA; Writing by Martin Petty; Editing by Michael Perry)
 
What's happening in Marawi will happen in a western European city/town within our lifetimes. Probably within a decade if things don't change from their current course. Charlie Hebdo and the Bataclan were preambles.

Guarantee it.
 
What's happening in Marawi will happen in a western European city/town within our lifetimes. Probably within a decade if things don't change from their current course. Charlie Hebdo and the Bataclan were preambles.

Guarantee it.

This is why I say the US and UK look for new allies. Western Europe has been odd ever since the end of the Cold War. One minute they want us to pool our money into the collective pot via NATO and the next the US and the UK get lectured by them about how we have to "tolerant and humane" like them. I don't get it, and I think it is time for the US to focus on mending and forging alliances with regions of greater, immediate interest that could be more fruitful in the long-term. Especially with Merkel now saying that is time for Europe to shape its own destiny.
 
Taking away bacon and then making people go hungry for spells isn't prone to inviting rational decision making--especially among the irrational.

This is why I say the US and UK look for new allies. Western Europe has been odd ever since the end of the Cold War. One minute they want us to pool our money into the collective pot via NATO and the next the US and the UK get lectured by them about how we have to "tolerant and humane" like them. I don't get it, and I think it is time for the US to focus on mending and forging alliances with regions of greater, immediate interest that could be more fruitful in the long-term. Especially with Merkel now saying that is time for Europe to shape its own destiny.

The portions of George Washington's farewell address dealing with foreign policy (summarized here) are wise words when you understand the general sentiments of them. Washington warned of the sort of alliances we have had for more than a half century because of the problems that such long times have--like complacency.

The interests and ideals of the United States and some of its longstanding allies are not set and this fluidity allows for rifts to form. To continue on with alliances unchanged despite this can really only be called a denial of reality. While many people look to the Europe as an example of change between the US and others, I would personally point squarely at Turkey as a showcase of this. Turkey has begun to move in a markedly different direction from the United States, and the situation of the US' alliance ought to reflect on that. The United States (and other nations) encountered relatively similar issues with France's Charles de Gaulle postwar, into the late 1960s.

Admittedly, in the nuclear and Internet ages, the notions of Washington's ideas do have to be balanced with the realities that are now upon us over two centuries later. Nevertheless, they are worthy of consideration even if they come from a kind of world that is no longer our own.
 
This is why I say the US and UK look for new allies. Western Europe has been odd ever since the end of the Cold War. One minute they want us to pool our money into the collective pot via NATO and the next the US and the UK get lectured by them about how we have to "tolerant and humane" like them. I don't get it, and I think it is time for the US to focus on mending and forging alliances with regions of greater, immediate interest that could be more fruitful in the long-term. Especially with Merkel now saying that is time for Europe to shape its own destiny.


True and honest Europeans cant see why anyone wouldn't want to be them, they're caught up in this programme, its the best programme in the world so why wouldn't everyone want to join.
This means they are giving massive financial incentives to central and eastern European countries to join, much of which lines the pockets of corrupt officials who over-ride the genuine concerns of their own citizens.
The major problem I see with European policy on defence is they don't understand the importance of buffer states. As Europe bribes counties further and further east, the western European countries end up dragging NATO with it, right up to the borders with Russia. This makes Russia even more psycho paranoid nationalist, and Russia has a high bar for psycho paranoid nationalism.
Buffer states are a win-win for everyone, they keep major rivals from each others doors, they get the advantage of the major state's investment to keep them on side (look at Turkey) and we get excellent spy novels.
European policy makers are so fixated on the utopia they are trying to build that they totally ignore the lessons from history.
 
More in the conflict in Mindanao:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bodies-c...ppines-city-besieged-islamists-054952668.html



Bodies of civilians dumped near Philippines city besieged by Islamists
Reuters
By Tom Allard 8 hours ago
By Tom Allard

MARAWI CITY, Philippines (Reuters) - Bodies of what appeared to be executed civilians were found in a ravine outside a besieged Philippine city on Sunday as a six-day occupation by Islamist rebels fending off a military onslaught took a more sinister turn.

The eight dead, most of them shot in the head and some with hands tied behind their backs, were laborers who were stopped by Islamic State-linked militants on the outskirts of Marawi City while trying to flee clashes, according to police.


Nine spent bullet casings were found on a blood-stained patch of road at the top of the ravine. Attached to one of the bodies was a sign that said "Munafik" (traitor).

The discovery confirms days of speculation that Maute rebels had killed civilians during a takeover of Marawi, that the military believes is aimed at winning the Maute recognition from the Islamic State as a Southeast Asian affiliate.

The fierce resistance of the Maute gunmen and the apparent executions of civilians will add to growing fears that subscribers to Islamic State's radical ideology are determined to establish a presence in the southern Philippines, with the support of extremists from Indonesia and Malaysia.

The army deployed more ground troops over the weekend and dispatched army and air force helicopters to carry out rocket strikes on Maute positions as fighters held buildings and a bridge deep inside a predominantly Muslim city where few civilians remained.

Some of those trapped in Marawi had called and text-messaged a hotline pleading with the military to stop the air strikes, according to Zia Alonto Adiong, a local politician coordinating complex efforts to evacuate civilians, dead and alive.

"Some have no food at all. Some fear for their lives," he told Reuters.

"This is a conflict that has gone beyond proportion. The magnitude of the degree of the damage and the people that are affected ... it's really massive."

At least 61 militants were killed and 15 security forces as of Saturday, according to the army, which said it could confirm nine civilians killed by militants.

At the ravine where the bodies were found, Marawi police officer Jamail C Mangadang said the victims were carpenters who were part of an evacuation convoy stopped by rebels late on Saturday.

Recalling information provided by their manager, Mangadang said the victims were pulled off a truck because they were unable to cite verses of the Koran, the Islamic holy text.

BRAZEN SIEGE

The military said it was possible there were others victims.

"This development validates a series of reports of atrocities committed by the militants earlier," said military spokesman, Restituto Padilla.

"We are still validating other reports of atrocities."

Islamic State's Amaq news agency last week claimed responsibility for the Maute's brazen siege. Unverified statements claiming to be from the extremists have appeared online, declaring the city of 200,000 people the "Islamic City of Marawi".

President Rodrigo Duterte on Sunday canceled a trip to Japan to address the unrest in Mindanao, an island of 22 million people where martial law has been declared. Police on Sunday outlawed guns there and suspended all weapons permits.

Fierce battles took place on Sunday as ground troops engaged Maute fighters with heavy gunfire and artillery. Plumes of smoke were seen on the horizon and helicopters unloaded rockets on rebel positions.

A surveillance drone circled the sky above Marawi. Some civilians tied white cloths to poles to distinguish themselves from militants as soldiers on foot huddled behind armored vehicles that crawled along deserted streets.

Tens of thousands of people have fled Marawi since Tuesday, when militants went on the rampage seizing a school, a hospital, and a cathedral, where Christians were taken hostage, according to church leaders. Scores of prisoners, among them militants, were freed when rebels took over two detention facilities.

The violence erupted in response to a failed attempt by security forces to capture Isnilon Hapilon, who the government believes is Islamic State's point-man in the Philippines.

The military is certain the Maute are protecting Hapilon and had narrowed down his location. Hapilon leads a radical faction of another Mindanao-based group, the Abu Sayyaf. [nL4N1IT057]

The little-known Maute group has staged several days-long sieges on Mindanao island but none on the scale of Marawi, where witnesses said flags resembling those of Islamic State had been flown and some gunmen wore black headbands.

The Maute group was blamed for last year's bombing in the president's home city, Davao, which killed 14 people, and its battlefield capability has been a serious challenge to a military that has far larger numbers and firepower. [nL4N1IQ1QK]

Another concern for the government was the discovery of Indonesian and Malaysian fighters with the Maute, which it said showed a domestic rebellion had expanded to become a far greater threat, driven by radical ideology.

(Reporting by Tom Allard; Additional reporting by Erik De Castro in MARAWI and Manuel Mogato in MANILA; Writing by Martin Petty; Editing by Michael Perry)
Jesus. The Phillipeans isn't really a third-world Carbombistan, and ISIS is actually gaining a foothold there.
If this shit can happen in a place like The Phillipeans, it's not going to stay there. Mark my words, this is a glimpse of Europe's future.
 
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