r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

[Wallace]

He’s got a point though, just made in a really whiny way that only a commie knows how. Pay rises have been detached from inflation since about the 70’s. Corporate income has slowly been funnelled away from workers and into the pockets of establishment goons for 50 years and the amount is only increasing every year. You could afford a house on one income not long ago but now both parents need to work to support a family and a roof over their heads. There’s no one else to blame except for governments that change laws and regulations to benefit their buddies in the private sector while they get rich off insider trading and corporate kickbacks. The common man is getting fucked by their governments, corporations are only taking advantage of laws that are rigged in their favour, anyone would do the same. These pinkos blame capitalism all the while worshipping the governments that continue to fuck them with rules like lockdowns which facilitated the biggest wealth transfer in history during the pandemic. It’s short-sighted and their anger is misplaced.

You gotta remember these retards think that Jeff Bezos sleeps on a huge pile of money like Smaug in The Hobbit, and that he could end poverty overnight if he felt like it; the fact that he and other billionaires haven't done so is proof that they are irredeemably evil.

 

[AnOminous]

You gotta remember these retards think that Jeff Bezos sleeps on a huge pile of money like Smaug in The Hobbit, and that he could end poverty overnight if he felt like it; the fact that he and other billionaires haven't done so is proof that they are irredeemably evil.

Bezos and the slave like working conditions of Amazon are actually a pretty good argument on the behalf of the antiwork loons.

They have a patent for keeping their workers in a literal cage during working hours. You know, for their own safety, to protect them from the killer robots wandering the workplace.

So no, he couldn't end poverty, but he could be a whole hell of a lot less of a slaver prick.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Bezos and the slave like working conditions of Amazon are actually a pretty good argument on the behalf of the antiwork loons.

They have a patent for keeping their workers in a literal cage during working hours. You know, for their own safety, to protect them from the killer robots wandering the workplace.
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So no, he couldn't end poverty, but he could be a whole hell of a lot less of a slaver prick.

Moat Amazon workers are Niggers or Pajeets so the Cages are defintitely for their safety. Can't risk having another dead Nigger.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

You gotta remember these retards think that Jeff Bezos sleeps on a huge pile of money like Smaug in The Hobbit, and that he could end poverty overnight if he felt like it; the fact that he and other billionaires haven't done so is proof that they are irredeemably evil.

Bezos can sleep on his hoard all he wants. He is thr type of billionaire who is rich and wants to get richer. He is simple and predictable. The absolute worst is the Bill Gates kind who pushes all sorts of sketchy shit under the guise of his charity. He is the one of the billionaires to keep an wary eye on.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Bezos can sleep on his hoard all he wants. He is thr type of billionaire who is rich and wants to get richer. He is simple and predictable. The absolute worst is the Bill Gates kind who pushes all sorts of sketchy shit under the guise of his charity. He is the one of the billionaires to keep an wary eye on.

CS Lewis did say something about how robber barons are less tyrannical than moral busibodies because at least the robber barons are honest about the fact that they're greedy bastards who want to get richer (and will stop or slow down when their greed is satiated), whereas moral busibodies will never stop at oppressing and tormenting people because they feel righteous about it.

Definitely sums up why I consider any forms of communism (including anarcho-communism) to be far worse than corporate tyranny.

 

[AnOminous]

CS Lewis did say something about how robber barons are less tyrannical than moral busibodies because at least the robber barons are honest about the fact that they're greedy bastards who want to get richer (and will stop or slow down when their greed is satiated), whereas moral busibodies will never stop at oppressing and tormenting people because they feel righteous about it.

The specific quote from C.S. Lewis (who people should listen to about almost anything he said).

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

He’s got a point though, just made in a really whiny way that only a commie knows how. Pay rises have been detached from inflation since about the 70’s. Corporate income has slowly been funnelled away from workers and into the pockets of establishment goons for 50 years and the amount is only increasing every year. You could afford a house on one income not long ago but now both parents need to work to support a family and a roof over their heads. There’s no one else to blame except for governments that change laws and regulations to benefit their buddies in the private sector while they get rich off insider trading and corporate kickbacks. The common man is getting fucked by their governments, corporations are only taking advantage of laws that are rigged in their favour, anyone would do the same. These pinkos blame capitalism all the while worshipping the governments that continue to fuck them with rules like lockdowns which facilitated the biggest wealth transfer in history during the pandemic. It’s short-sighted and their anger is misplaced.

It is true that wages and especially the minimum wage have stagnated since the 1970s (end of the golden age of capitalism), but the reason is that people's lifestyles have changed. Mandatory gadgets like cellphones (which are less durable than old landline telephones were) and computers cost a lot of money. People back in the 50s-70s also ate homecooked meals almost every night and when they didn't they ate truly awful precooked food or ate fast food (McDonalds was considered formal BTW, ask a boomer in your family). Vacations were rare outside of taking very long drives.

There's a lot of other factors too like the deindustrialization of the West/outsourcing of industry which killed a bunch of well-paying union jobs that supported a lot of the middle class. The unions (always political first anyway) sat back and accepted it in exchange for not being totally union-busted out of existence. As for housing, I'd assume it's partially related to supply and demand (there were 203 million Americans in 1970 and the median age was 28 vs 39 today, and most people don't want to live in the middle of nowhere, especially since farming is far less viable as a career today than 1970), partially government/banking related, since people are protecting the value of their home. Some areas have a lot of government red tape i.e. environmentalism or simple zoning/development bullshit.

In pretty much every country this was supported by the major parties so while people like Thatcher and Reagan rightfully deserve the blame, your Tony Blairs and Bill Clintons deserve plenty of blame themselves. That's why the left doubled down on wacko social policies, because their corpo buddies demanded the line keep going up, and that meant throwing the common worker under the bus.

Bezos can sleep on his hoard all he wants. He is thr type of billionaire who is rich and wants to get richer. He is simple and predictable. The absolute worst is the Bill Gates kind who pushes all sorts of sketchy shit under the guise of his charity. He is the one of the billionaires to keep an wary eye on.

Almost all billionaires do because it's how they legally evade taxes. These charities prop up hundreds of thousands of jobs, many of them totally useless and exist only as sinecures for the children of other elites. Bill Gates is just very politically active with his charity.

 

[AnOminous]

There's a lot of other factors too like the deindustrialization of the West/outsourcing of industry which killed a bunch of well-paying union jobs that supported a lot of the middle class. The unions (always political first anyway) sat back and accepted it in exchange for not being totally union-busted out of existence.

That wasn't even recent. The National Labor Relations Act more or less gimped the practice of striking and made it possible for companies to get injunctions against strikes that rendered the practice nearly a formality. It shouldn't be overlooked that part of striking practice involved literal violence from time to time. Companies hired thugs like the Pinkertons to commit vile acts against workers, and company heads could themselves get dead, a la the Molly Maguires.

People take things like the 40 hour week for granted (and in fact that is a mirage at this point), but it took nearly a century of outright violence (mostly on the workers) before concessions even like this were reached.

I should note, the workers who accomplished this were anything but "anti-work," they just wanted to be fairly compensated for the work they did.

Now we have the worst of both worlds, where unions are scumsucking leeches, and when they're not, they're horrible in regards to the entire outside world (teacher's unions), or they're professional guilds that similarly only protect their own and only benefit the already privileged (like TV writer's unions who can shut down entertainment whenever they feel like it and are not particularly oppressed), and outside of them, you have the "gig economy," which is the get buttfucked and have zero benefits economy, or absolutely shitty minimum wage jobs.

And if you're working those jobs, you're paying for an entire lumpenproletariat trash class of worthless scumbags who refuse to do work of any kind and just get gibs from the gummint, while shitting all over the people paying for their leech-like existence.

You almost have to create your own job these days to have any decent quality of life in combination with a tolerable work life. This is okay if you can do it but not everyone can and not everyone should be expected to do that.

 

[Lord Quackers]

You gotta remember these retards think that Jeff Bezos sleeps on a huge pile of money like Smaug in The Hobbit, and that he could end poverty overnight if he felt like it; the fact that he and other billionaires haven't done so is proof that they are irredeemably evil.

I don't know if that figure about wage inflation is correct. In the usa, wages were at their real peak just recently, rivalling what they were in the 60s.

 

[Bugman's Burden]

Now we have the worst of both worlds, where unions are scumsucking leeches, and when they're not, they're horrible in regards to the entire outside world (teacher's unions), or they're professional guilds that similarly only protect their own and only benefit the already privileged (like TV writer's unions who can shut down entertainment whenever they feel like it and are not particularly oppressed), and outside of them, you have the "gig economy," which is the get buttfucked and have zero benefits economy, or absolutely shitty minimum wage jobs.

I read that unions used to lobby the government on behalf of workers. Now they just lobby workers on behalf of the Democratic party. But even at their best, unions only seemed to be a temporary concession given to the workers to keep them quiet while capital consolidated its power elsewhere to claw it back later.

The much-vaunted growth in union activity seems to be in Starbucks locations and Apple retail stores; just places for liberals to get union strong lattes and feel good about themselves for spending money. If the unions of the past were wolves, the unions of today are chihuahuas and of course TPTB would celebrate their growth.

 

[AnOminous]

The much-vaunted growth in union activity seems to be in Starbucks locations and Apple retail stores; just places for liberals to get union strong lattes and feel good about themselves for spending money.

I don't have much problem with Starbuck's treating workers relatively well, but their coffee is absolute shit and I won't spend money somewhere that can't even master roasting beans and then mixing them with water, because there's no excuse for being so shitty you can't even do that right.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I don't have much problem with Starbuck's treating workers relatively well, but their coffee is absolute shit and I won't spend money somewhere that can't even master roasting beans and then mixing them with water, because there's no excuse for being so shitty you can't even do that right.

People actually buy Starbucks beans to brew at home. (or, more likely, to display in their pristine kitchen that never sees any actual use). I'm hardly a coffee connoisseur, but even I know that's stupid. All they care about is the brand.

As for unions: over here, the unions were buck-broken by Thatcher in the 70s, but they still seem more functional than American unions. You don't get the sort of "this is a union town" stereotype behaviours, and they do actually fight on behalf of the workers most of the time (except the T&G, GMB, and other big umbrella union. Their leadership is part of the media-political class, regardless of origins). It was, ultimately, the colleagues union that forced the demerger between Asda and Walmart, just to pick an example. They don't like to talk about it.

Nevertheless, I've seen a lot of Americanised discourse over unions seeping into this country over the last 20 years, alongside all the racialist and ACAB shit. To hear the uk-based antiworker types talk, you'd think the little workers' coop at Fenton's Flanges and Fillers was either a horrendous gatekeeper of jobs, or so craven and useless that it might as well be part of the management team, and in either case needs to be overthrown and replaced with a collective of trannies and faggots, so they can organise a one-day week and pay everyone the same wage as a bank manager. Usually comes from some resentful twat who got fired for not doing his job after repeated warnings, because even the worst union isn't going to protect you if you put your fellows in danger.

 

[Cpt. Stud Beefpile]

The most frightening thing about this entire group isn't that they exist, it's that their complaints are becoming more valid by the day.

Biden blackmailed the railworkers for daring to strike for sick days, Trudeau outright tried imposing a $4k/head fine on teachers assistants, we're starting to see significant homelessness due to uncontrolled rent gouging and groceries are bad enough even MY conservative ass is willing to consider supporting price caps.

What's most worrying is the hollow job market. When you apply for hundreds of positions that you are eligible for and get no response - not a rejection, not a form-letter, nothing - It's a subtle indicator of how few places actually want new employees. And how many are merely resume harvesting or trying to APPEAR like they're expanding/doing well.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

CS Lewis did say something about how robber barons are less tyrannical than moral busibodies because at least the robber barons are honest about the fact that they're greedy bastards who want to get richer (and will stop or slow down when their greed is satiated), whereas moral busibodies will never stop at oppressing and tormenting people because they feel righteous about it.

Definitely sums up why I consider any forms of communism (including anarcho-communism) to be far worse than corporate tyranny.

Except that now our corporate overlords are becoming communists are at least forced to submit to said moral busybodies in the form of ESG initiatives.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

People actually buy Starbucks beans to brew at home. (or, more likely, to display in their pristine kitchen that never sees any actual use). I'm hardly a coffee connoisseur, but even I know that's stupid. All they care about is the brand.

As for unions: over here, the unions were buck-broken by Thatcher in the 70s, but they still seem more functional than American unions. You don't get the sort of "this is a union town" stereotype behaviours, and they do actually fight on behalf of the workers most of the time (except the T&G, GMB, and other big umbrella union. Their leadership is part of the media-political class, regardless of origins). It was, ultimately, the colleagues union that forced the demerger between Asda and Walmart, just to pick an example. They don't like to talk about it.

Nevertheless, I've seen a lot of Americanised discourse over unions seeping into this country over the last 20 years, alongside all the racialist and ACAB shit. To hear the uk-based antiworker types talk, you'd think the little workers' coop at Fenton's Flanges and Fillers was either a horrendous gatekeeper of jobs, or so craven and useless that it might as well be part of the management team, and in either case needs to be overthrown and replaced with a collective of trannies and faggots, so they can organise a one-day week and pay everyone the same wage as a bank manager. Usually comes from some resentful twat who got fired for not doing his job after repeated warnings, because even the worst union isn't going to protect you if you put your fellows in danger.

Context is needed.

TL;DR - The unions went too far.

Watch old BBC 1 news. How would you like to not have basic civil services (that you pay for) because of the weekly round of strikes.
No train service, bus, garbage, postal, medical, etc... One random every other week. And every year, your taxes climb to pay for services you went part of the year without.

The public was done with strikes. Thatcher had little to do with it. If Thatcher allowed the strikes to continue, and let socialized services reign, England would never have a union again.

 

[Roland TB-303]

The most frightening thing about this entire group isn't that they exist, it's that their complaints are becoming more valid by the day.

If the lizard people didn’t destroy Occupy Wallstreet with idpol infighting, we’d be in a better position to mitigate against the effects of WEF and Blackrock types. We probably won’t see it in our lifetimes but income disparity will eventually get so bad that ordinary people will be rioting for food in the streets. Luckily we have goyslop initiatives to take the place of real food while the lizard people dine on rare marbled beef and fresh vegetables.

 

[Wesley Willis]

CS Lewis did say something about how robber barons are less tyrannical than moral busibodies because at least the robber barons are honest about the fact that they're greedy bastards who want to get richer (and will stop or slow down when their greed is satiated), whereas moral busibodies will never stop at oppressing and tormenting people because they feel righteous about it.

Definitely sums up why I consider any forms of communism (including anarcho-communism) to be far worse than corporate tyranny.

When has corporate greed ever been satiated? He didn't live to see credit default swaps, bank bailouts, or petrodollar recycling.

 

[Absolutego]

Bezos can sleep on his hoard all he wants. He is thr type of billionaire who is rich and wants to get richer. He is simple and predictable. The absolute worst is the Bill Gates kind who pushes all sorts of sketchy shit under the guise of his charity. He is the one of the billionaires to keep an wary eye on.

lmfao read the Washington Post on any given day and try to tell me Bezos isn't just as much of a rich fuck meddling in politics as Gates is.

He's Bill ca. 2002. Come back to me in another 20 years and tell me he didn't go down an almost identical career track. Maybe he'll use the Washington Commanders instead of an ostensible nonprofit (he hasn't got a wife to name it after, that probably plays into it) to launder his reputation as a philanthropist.

 

[Wallace]

The most frightening thing about this entire group isn't that they exist, it's that their complaints are becoming more valid by the day.

Biden blackmailed the railworkers for daring to strike for sick days, Trudeau outright tried imposing a $4k/head fine on teachers assistants, we're starting to see significant homelessness due to uncontrolled rent gouging and groceries are bad enough even MY conservative ass is willing to consider supporting price caps.

What's most worrying is the hollow job market. When you apply for hundreds of positions that you are eligible for and get no response - not a rejection, not a form-letter, nothing - It's a subtle indicator of how few places actually want new employees. And how many are merely resume harvesting or trying to APPEAR like they're expanding/doing well.

And yet we're the bad guys for pointing out that all of this is smoke and mirrors, perpetuated by jounrnoscum for the consumption by the somnambulant proles.

The stupid part is how much these retards alienate other people by playing their ridiculous status games on Twitter, people who should be their allies. But nooo, troonery and my self-actualization come first!

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Some greedy fuck always ruins good stuff like this.

Yep, it was the only way my broke ass could afford steak while I was in college.

The most frightening thing about this entire group isn't that they exist, it's that their complaints are becoming more valid by the day.

Honestly the complaints are mostly legitimate, they just have utterly retarded solutions. The solution to rampant corruption is not just printing more funny money so you can skip out on working. No, hoarding wealth is not some thing only white men do. The solution to rising wealth inequality is not just steal a bunch of shit from Walgreens.