r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

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How will society function without jobs?

  • Uhh.. tax billionaires even more?

    Votes: 102 11.3%

  • Automatisation!!11!1

    Votes: 101 11.2%

  • I've heard of this thing called, uh, UBI before... sounds cool...

    Votes: 81 9.0%

  • Hiring professional Reddit moderators (and banning evil users with dirty opinions)

    Votes: 195 21.7%

  • I don't care, GIVE ME FREE STUFF.

    Votes: 421 46.8%
  • Total voters
    900
  • Poll closed .
Galeocerdo said:
It's weird though, they're making a point of focusing on the Obese people but I've not yet really heard much about those suffering from mental health issues but they are pushing UC to contact those on LCfW and try and "Help them get back into work", but I know simply pointing out you have mental health issues you still aren't treated for gets these people to back off, which shows they're tackling the obesity thing first and maybe only that.
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On this point, I think it's weight is 1. obvious- even the blind can tell that when someone is morbidly obese 2. quantifiable- we have scales and 3. everyone knows what causes it- HAES advocates can cope and sneed all they want, but everyone knows 99.9% of cases are because you're fat ass keeps stuffing your gut full of way too much food. Mental health shit is by its nature difficult to measure in any objective way.
 
Ultrapenguin said:
I suspect the reason people could better tolerate work for decades upon decades in the olden days is because the culture was different.

There wasn't overthinking or weird schedules or distance complicating the process. Our grandfather's generation worked at the local steel factory, all his friends and the men in his family worked there, everyone around you shared a similar schedule and work culture, everything was much more automatic.
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I think this is getting to the problem.

I think the biggest problem with how it works nowadays isn't even the pay, or the hours, or anything like that, but the weight of the bloat around the job.

I used to work in conservation. You got out in a van in the morning, in the beautiful nature, and you cut down brush to stop forest fires or overgrown vines.

I loved that job, even if it was physically demanding. But I ultimately had to leave. Not due to the job, but due to management.

There was constant fighting between the people, doing the actual fucking work, and the managers that were basically sitting in an air cooled room shuffling papers all day. They did not do their jobs, they actually had different bathrooms, because they couldn't handle that he were out in the muck, and they could not take any criticism. I remember, hearing one supervisor driving out to the office because they completely misfiled something and we lost a day, and the person he was talking to breaking down crying. Not to mention that they would keep up stupid ass fucking mandates, like using the electric trimmers. You want know why we still use gas weed whackers? Because the electric ones need an entire backpack to use, las half as long, and if you didn't charge them the night before you went out, whoops! Guess you can't work today.

When you are the one doing the work, and you see in the window someone who basically just sits there all day and gets twice your paycheck, you quickly become disillusioned. I eventually had to leave, because I couldn't handle everything around the work bearing down on me when I just wanted to cut grass and go home.

Growing older, I found that this was not unique at all. I could give plenty of management stories from my current job.

Ultimately, I don't think the problem for people is working. Actually, the opposite. I think people actually can gain great meaning from working. The problem is that the people have no good vessel for that work to flow through. Just meaningless roadblocks. And it is demoralizing that the most vapid, useless people in our society are the most respected and rewarded. When children aspire to be social media stars, and not astronauts.
 
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Ultrapenguin said:
I suspect the reason people could better tolerate work for decades upon decades in the olden days is because the culture was different.
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This is the long and short of it. The best jobs I've ever had (as in, how happy I was to be there, and how willing I was to get out of bed), were in an environment that felt more like a natural community, than one that was forced upon you. You don't have to make besties with the crew, but it certainly makes that possible, when you are doing an uncomplicated (as in, more of your job is actual work) job until you clock out, and you are all in the same pickle. That encourages teamwork. HR inventing a dance for all of the Wal-Mart employees, forces this behavior but fails miserably in doing anything but treating their laborers like dogs. I'd call it abuse if they weren't at least paid the minimum wage.

The real problem is, EVERY goddamn job is like Wal-Mart in some way, now. I miss the days when office culture was the biggest complaint people had about day labor. Now you don't even have office culture, thanks to HR zombies replacing it with a fluffy and vague corporate culture.
 
Drama Fan said:
On this point, I think it's weight is 1. obvious- even the blind can tell that when someone is morbidly obese 2. quantifiable- we have scales and 3. everyone knows what causes it- HAES advocates can cope and sneed all they want, but everyone knows 99.9% of cases are because you're fat ass keeps stuffing your gut full of way too much food. Mental health shit is by its nature difficult to measure in any objective way.
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Yea I can see that. But it also again shows their skewed perspectives when it comes to how they handle the NHS and the mental health services as a whole, or at least in my opinion, a lot of obese people are generally suffering from mental health issues (Usually due to their weight, it's a self-fulfilling circle right?).. I guess I have a skewed view as someone who's not obese but knows a lot of mentally unwell people (and being one myself IG) who needs help from the mental health services and cannot get that help.
Like I know the MHU in my area will simply put you on a never-ending loop using "Free Group Therapy" charities as a stop-gap measure to contain people and hope that'll help them out? Like I know someone who's been fighting for over half a decade with them only to be lead to a recurring cycle of 1 of 3 groups who either cannot help them and will push them onto another of the 3, or they simply don't provide anything that person feels will help them and going through it does nothing for them ultimately. It shines a light on the NHS as a whole that our country is held together with rubber bands, baid aids, bubblegum along with the hopes and dreams of small children.
 
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I recently opened a discord account I had sitting in a bunch of servers to observe. Clearing my notifications I saw this gemmy. At some point in May 2024 someone hijacked some sort of antiwork mod account to launch an /r/antiwork NFT, lol. Not sure if he's talking about a reddit, discord, or twitter account, but still it got a giggle out of me.
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these "people" aren't workers, they're middle management

see: all the stuff about OH NO I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE OFFICE

also it being basically an extension of r/fednews at this point

anyway, thread tax


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it's not being "stolen" it's "this is probably fraud"


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no academic is a "worker"

there's reasons why Pol Pot went after zir kind
 
TaimuRadiu said:
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it's not being "stolen" it's "this is probably fraud"
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Okay, I'll be real honest right now and say that if someone snatched up a tip like that from me, I'd put them in the fucking hospital. I don't give a fuck if it's "fraud", I'll break your hand while prying that money out of it. I've gotten tips not quite that large, but in that ballpark, (so it's not terribly absurd to hear about this, to me) and I would happily risk jailtime to get your filthy dickbeaters off my cash.
 
ArnoldPalmer said:
Okay, I'll be real honest right now and say that if someone snatched up a tip like that from me, I'd put them in the fucking hospital. I don't give a fuck if it's "fraud", I'll break your hand while prying that money out of it. I've gotten tips not quite that large, but in that ballpark, (so it's not terribly absurd to hear about this, to me) and I would happily risk jailtime to get your filthy dickbeaters off my cash.
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Problem is that the absurdly high tip wasn't in cash, it was a card transaction. Even if you believe the story to be true (and I doubt it since the kind of person to post on the “I hate having to work for a living and want communism so I can be a professional streamer” subreddit probably isn't going to be a very likable host), we're not talking about a manager ripping cash out of someone's hands, we're seeing a payment processor denying a transfer of funds due to common tipping policies flagging tips significantly larger than the original bill. It may not be pleasant to lose a big tip, but most people don't give that much to a random host unless the money is stolen or it's being laundered.
 
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I wonder if there's much of an overlap are between the r/antiwork people and r/fednews posters? Because despite fednews being full of "workers", it seems they don't want to be laid of their work-from-home fake email job, essentially the minimum you can work while still having a job.
 
ArnoldPalmer said:
OH, okay, different story, then. I was assuming this was a cash bundle. If it was cash, then it's probably worth the time I spend in jail for eating my co-worker's face off.
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When I worked hotel the biggest red flag was when a local tipped like $150 for a $40 dollar meal. For tourists no one gave a shit but a local tipping that high? It's usually to clean money stolen from gas stations or gambling game rooms. Shit got annoying when the cops had the breath down the server's neck.
 
Ultrapenguin said:
I suspect the reason people could better tolerate work for decades upon decades in the olden days is because the culture was different.

There wasn't overthinking or weird schedules or distance complicating the process. Our grandfather's generation worked at the local steel factory, all his friends and the men in his family worked there, everyone around you shared a similar schedule and work culture, everything was much more automatic.

I'm certain people in the past spent more time laboring than we do, the only difference was the environment it occurred in.

So is the problem now really the number of working hours, or is it that work takes up so much more of a modern person's mental real estate while being less satisfying, because it's a less prescribed, more isolated/isolating process?

The redditors aren't wrong for being unhappy, but I don't think a lot of them are able to correctly identify why they're unhappy. Not uncommon for Reddit.
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I generally agree. You used to just do your work and then go home. Now you have to be always available, extol the virtues of your company on LinkedIn, participate in DEI struggle sessions, etc. so much bullshit involved versus just doing your job.
 
The Hardest R said:
I generally agree. You used to just do your work and then go home. Now you have to be always available, extol the virtues of your company on LinkedIn, participate in DEI struggle sessions, etc. so much bullshit involved versus just doing your job.
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All I wanted was a box of tissue bro...
 
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