r/Antinatalism - "Fertility...le BAD!" AKA Redditors having a rare moment of not lusting after children, and somehow still being fucking awful in the process.

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

And consequently would you consider it morally correct to sterilize Africans?

Interestingly enough, Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, thought so.

 

[Eva Braun]

The way I see it:

Pros:
(+) less children means better gender equality
(+) less mouths to feed = less starvation
(+) less people = less co2

Cons:
(-) might hinder african economic growth
(-) forced sterilization is considered a crime against humanity under the rome statute

 

[agent_donkey]

> janny requests validation before cleaning it up

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If you are wondering what "efilism" is -I sure as hell was; for starters it's (life | backwards)-ism and their subreddit has been nuked off the site about a month ago. Apparently it has to do with complete extinction of all conscious life.
Looking through the Waybackmachine, it seems r/efilism was just "Antinatalism II: now-with-even-more-bitching™". Fun, but very sadly comments are apparently not archived.

 

[Tootsie Bear]

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> janny requests validation before cleaning it up

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If you are wondering what "efilism" is -I sure as hell was; for starters it's (life | backwards)-ism and their subreddit has been nuked off the site about a month ago. Apparently it has to do with complete extinction of all conscious life.
Looking through the Waybackmachine, it seems r/efilism was just "Antinatalism II: now-with-even-more-bitching™". Fun, but very sadly comments are apparently not archived.

That subreddit was taken down after the suicide bombing at the reproduction clinic in Los Angels earlier this year. I'm curious what an "Aponists" is.

 

[NoCockatrice]

why won't they kill themselves already?

They are pussies

 

[SoleniyKraut]

If someone believes every human has an immortal soul, and therefore thinks their spiritual existence predates their mortal existence, then they should be mad at God for creating them, not their parents. Which, I suspect, is really what's going on in a lot of these cases.

I believe you'd be correct. If we remove the layers of social paradigm antinatalists have, and only leave the moral aspect - they're essentially angry about the fact of creation itself. To them, it's a burden to live, burden to take responsibility. Therefore, since we established that they project their strife on others, they wish that any other human would be exempt from the fact of creation altogether. Long story short - it's insane with and without deconstruction.

Anti-natalism in a nutshell:

The contrafibularity is anaspeptic. Your argument is already over, breeder.

Note: this is the only type of thing this guy posts except for an occasional r/atheism comment.

This one is my favourite by far:

They profess to be so wise, yet are such fools;
1.The claim about people being "Addicted to life" is idiotic - 1) Life is not a concious choice. Addiction is a state one can reach, while under outside influence or by personal choice. Life, however, is a state which is not chosen, it is given and you cannot opt out of it outside of ending your own life. In philosophy, all of us who are alive are in the state of "Being", the contrary is nonexistence, which is self-explanatory. This judgement being made - by itself - is a result of life experiences, which means that experience do matter to this person, he's just afraid of consequences and moving on to better himself, and due to lack of spiritual development eventually concludes that it's better to be dead, than alive and developing; 2)The latter words are just weird nihilism - if this person truly would've believed what he writes, he would not have purposefuly written a post on Reddit to experience likemindedness with other antinatalists. Hypocricy.
2. Antinatalism depends on at least some form of intellectual discourse, because it's constantly proven to be conditional and selective - as result of the antinatalist's own grievences regarding his life, instead of fair rationalisation. There's a reason even 19-20th century western philosophers, as perverted as they may be, never even thought to speak of NONEXISTENCE as the best case scenario for humanity. Yes, they have alluded that perhaps we do not have an inherit purpose (Which I personally disagree with) - but in that they affirmed their own views, which stated that humans have the freedom to realise all their ideas and shape the world as they see fit. How do you manage to be less sane than modern Western philosophy?
3. I'll group the comments about "Life = suffering" and that all life is miserable by design into one section to save time: Suffering needs a definition - in this case, I assume they speak about emotional turmoil and physical harm (The distant illnesses and wars, that are not happening to the antinatalists themselves). If we use this definition, this doesn't really mean that they are going through it, or if they do, it's on their own accord - they are not physically disadvantaged, they observe the misfortune of others, and choose to let the depressive nature of those events affect them, instead of moving on with their life. Once again just a temper-tantrum.

There was no particular order here, I might've sperged a bit too much too. Also bonus links to antinatalist movement info in India:
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Two

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

If you are wondering what "efilism" is -I sure as hell was; for starters it's (life | backwards)-ism

When I see it, I think of elves e-filing taxes.

There was no particular order here, I might've sperged a bit too much too. Also bonus links to antinatalist movement info in India:
One
Two

Western antinatalist: peak cringe
Indian antinatalist: quite based tbh

 

[SoleniyKraut]

Indian antinatalist: quite based tbh

Even pajeets have pajeet fatigue.

 

[Chemex]

I didn't know this subreddit has a thread. That being said, at this point, aren't redditors of r/childfree not that different from the ones on r/antinatalism? The childfree one is basically about how they hate children and don't want to have one nowadays.

 

[agent_donkey]

3. I'll group the comments about "Life = suffering" and that all life is miserable by design into one section to save time: Suffering needs a definition - in this case, I assume they speak about emotional turmoil and physical harm (The distant illnesses and wars, that are not happening to the antinatalists themselves). If we use this definition, this doesn't really mean that they are going through it, or if they do, it's on their own accord - they are not physically disadvantaged, they observe the misfortune of others, and choose to let the depressive nature of those events affect them, instead of moving on with their life. Once again just a temper-tantrum.

Well yes, but in their heads, they all have "incurable" and "crippling" "mental illnesses" "inflicted on them" by their parents.
> Like, how can you have so little sympathy to not understand this? Literal fascist scum!

I didn't know this subreddit has a thread. That being said, at this point, aren't redditors of r/childfree not that different from the ones on r/antinatalism? The childfree one is basically about how they hate children and don't want to have one nowadays.

No, you see, this one is about how they hate life and all parents.

 

[SoleniyKraut]

Well yes, but in their heads, they all have "incurable" and "crippling" "mental illnesses" "inflicted on them" by their parents.

As in - their parents disciplined them a bit too harsh once?

 

[agent_donkey]

As in - their parents disciplined them a bit too harsh once?

That accounts for their severe PTSD, but their torturous AuDHD is genetic.
(AuDHD is autism + ADHD and appears to be a very popular term in their circles.)

 

[SoleniyKraut]

That accounts for their severe PTSD, but their torturous AuDHD is genetic.
(AuDHD is autism + ADHD and appears to be a very popular term in their circles.)

Man, I have dermatitis since birth - Billions must die.

 

[Chemex]

No, you see, this one is about how they hate life and all parents.

So... whiny teenagers?
That reminds me of this one time I accidentally found r/exmuslim, but when I checked it out of curiosity, it was full of whiny teenagers...

 

[agent_donkey]

I'm curious what an "Aponists" is.

I'm glad you said that because it sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole.

Take antinatalism as a philosophical base. Taking it to its logical conclusion, you get efilism. However, try taking it to its logical conclusion while being a radical cuck -as in, a radical about being a cuck- and you get aponism.
But just is aponism?
Antinatalism can be expressed well in a few paragraphs.
Efilism is very intuitive.
Aponism has a 13'829 word manifesto, and it doesn't make any fucking sense.
tl;dr: "Animals and plants have feelings too, therefor become vegan and stop reproducing! But this is only a recommendation, we believe in anarchism, sorry for raising my voice UwU. Oh, btw here is a bunch of random shit I believe to support my position."

You can read the whole thing here: The Aponist Manifesto (archive)
Here is a highlighted version that also points out some of the retardation involved:



(In 3 parts because of webp reasons.)

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So, these people have an official discord server.
They have a channel for introductions. (Only a fraction of their currently 264 users has participated.)

Spoiler: Screenshots

They have a channel for memes.

Spoiler: Images

And they have a channel for discussions.

Spoiler: Screenshots

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Previously I mentioned how the rules of r/antinatalism are just a pile of woke bullshit randomly strapped on. It all makes sense now: it is operated by aponists. Since they view it as a simple subset of their philosophy its not surprising either. That is also why only efilists get banned. The 2 groups are vile enemies.

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Spoiler: More AN / aponist posts I believe to be funny / worth archiving

 

[Argos]

Antinatalists will die unhappy. As a friend put it once, "It ( a child) is just something you want". Whatever the reason, there's a significant number if people who want kids.

 

[NoCockatrice]

What the fuck is this modern mentality of white people to think that you can't have kids unless you're literally fucking perfect? You can't be an ordinary person, no, you have to have a psychology™ degree or be richer than Bezos or else you are "an unfit parent, who condemns his potential child to suffering".

Our grand grand parents used to have dozens of kids and nobody gave a single fuck.

Has everything change because condoms became more accessible? Are condoms the worst invention ever?

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

What the fuck is this modern mentality of white people to think that you can't have kids unless you're literally fucking perfect?

There's "not being perfect" and there's being a mentally ill lesbian pooner who plans on raising test tube babies without a father present. Pointing out that such an upbringing would do irreversible harm to any child is common sense, not antinatalism.

Are condoms the worst invention ever?

No, that would be the internet. It's not like condoms are what's stopping you from having kids anyway.

 

[NoCockatrice]

There's "not being perfect" and there's

This shit has nothing to do with my post.

I hear the "I'm not good enough" from a lot of decent young people nowadays, and it's depressing. "I'm not ready for kids yet, I didn't do 100+ hours of therapy" etc. It's also a common narrative in places like r/antinatalism.

No, that would be the internet.

There's an American birth rate chart. You can clearly see the demography decrease long before the internet. So it has to be something else.

 

[kaldikhan]

This shit has nothing to do with my post.

I hear the "I'm not good enough" from a lot of decent young people nowadays, and it's depressing. "I'm not ready for kids yet, I didn't do 100+ hours of therapy" etc. It's also a common narrative in places like r/antinatalism.


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women entered the workforce, grandma went to a nursing home, nobody is left in the home to care for the kids except the daycares (rapists retards satanists and skittlepeople). If your husband had a stable job you should be able to maybe let the wife stay home with the baby for at least the baby years.......

When i procreate i will literally have to rely on my family to raise the child because i reject daycare and even public schools.
and I'm fortunate enough that his mother works from home and wants to homeschool the booger(s). If i didnt have a support network because i sent everyone to retirement homes or moved or just had evil parents (Possible and reasonable) i would have no options other then daycare. I dont think women should have ever entered the workforce because now i cant raise my own kid.