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Yeah, he's gonna get busted in a male prostitute situation in a few more years, along with Paul Oliges (sp) and at least one of the Duggar duds and maybe a Rodlet or two as well.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it came out that he was having an affair with Robert Staddon. Those two always acted like the most homo no-homo fundie bros ever and I always kind of thought there was some slap and tickle going on between them, and the fact that they both all of a sudden courted and married fairly quickly at near the same time reinforced that.
 
they both all of a sudden courted and married fairly quickly at near the same time
I don't know much about this potential BFF boyfriend, but David and Pris got married at an alarming speed: David asked Pa Keller if he could court Pris in September 2011; Pris was imported back to Florida from the young ladies IBLP sleepaway camp tout de suite by October; David got permission to court Pris after her parents had finally convinced her on November 10th, and they were engaged by November 16th.

They married in February 2012, so all told, their courtship-to-marriage timeline was something like four months, and that was after it took Mike and Susannah Keller two months to browbeat their brain damaged daughter into agreeing with whatever they told her to do.
 
I don't know much about this potential BFF boyfriend, but David and Pris got married at an alarming speed: David asked Pa Keller if he could court Pris in September 2011; Pris was imported back to Florida from the young ladies IBLP sleepaway camp tout de suite by October; David got permission to court Pris after her parents had finally convinced her on November 10th, and they were engaged by November 16th.

They married in February 2012, so all told, their courtship-to-marriage timeline was something like four months, and that was after it took Mike and Susannah Keller two months to browbeat their brain damaged daughter into agreeing with whatever they told her to do.
I believe it was the same thing with the oldest sister who married the African missionary guy, and Anna marrying sex-pest Josh Duggar.
Their parents (well dad, mainly) told Anna and the others they were going to marry these guys, and that's that.
Anna's parents knew Josh was a sex-pest/pervert, and still had no problem telling her to marry him. They even thought Anna could "cure" him of his problem. But of course it's Anna's fault she couldn't.
 
Re: David Waller: he reminds me of an antigay senator who got caught soliciting anon gay sex at an airport. Fortunately not my rep!

This guy was banging on about family values and saying he wasn’t gay/wasn’t involved in scandals since the 1980s (in the 80s, some teenage Senate assistants made up a story of inappropriateness to sue, and only that guy credited it by saying “no, definitely didn’t do anything, and definitely not to boys.”

And he denied it right up to the bitter end. Tried to say the signals he was sending in that bathroom (there are ways to say you’re looking for quick anon sex), were accident or coincidence.

David will do the same thing if he ever gets caught, I’d bet on it.
 
I believe it was the same thing with the oldest sister who married the African missionary guy,
Isn't that guy so well known as being fucked up even in fundie circles she cried when she first found out she was arranged to marry him? Then he dragged her to Africa to isolate her and made her have like 11 kids or something (and got her pregnant literally a month or two after she'd just given birth or had a miscarriage or something).

I wonder what he could've done to make him worse than even Josh Duggar?
 
Isn't that guy so well known as being fucked up even in fundie circles she cried when she first found out she was arranged to marry him? Then he dragged her to Africa to isolate her and made her have like 11 kids or something (and got her pregnant literally a month or two after she'd just given birth or had a miscarriage or something).

I wonder what he could've done to make him worse than even Josh Duggar?
I'm pretty sure that's him. His name is David Shrader and he married Anna's eldest sister, Esther, in November 2001. In 2012, they moved to Zambia to be full-time "missionaries". Despite Esther's history of peripartum complications, several of their 14 children were born in Zambia and have really cringe "Zambian" middle names.

At one point, David kept a Heart of Darkness style blog about their missionary adventures. In one particularly memorable story arc, he and his trustworthy brown sidekick grifted tens of thousands of dollars for an airplane that turned out to be a hustle. This Is Africa.
 
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How many of you guys remember Jim and Bobye Holt?
They were sort of friends of the Duggars that testified against Sex-Pest Duggar at his trial.
Bobye left Jim a year a so ago, and filed a RO against him.
But she dropped the RO, and reconciled with Jim.
Apparently, the oldest (older?) son got full custody of the younger daughter, and temporary custody of the two youngest boys. Jim and Bobye didn't contest custody of the daughter because she's nearly 18, but they did contest the custody of the younger boys. They are now with the older brother for the time being.
 
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How many of you guys remember Jim and Bobye Holt?
They were sort of friends of the Duggars that testified against Sex-Pest Duggar at his trial.
Bobye left Jim a year a so ago, and filed a RO against him.
But she dropped the RO, and reconciled with Jim.
Apparently, the oldest (older?) son got full custody of the younger daughter, and temporary custody of the two youngest boys. Jim and Bobye didn't contest custody of the daughter because she's nearly 18, but they did contest the custody of the younger boys. They are now with the older brother for the time being.
I wonder why she dropped the RO and got back with him?

Didn't he first start dating her when she was 14 and he was 19?
 
I wonder why she dropped the RO and got back with him?

Didn't he first start dating her when she was 14 and he was 19?
Yes.
He said she didn't look 14 "because she was so developed."

And I imagine the pressure from other church members, especially the male elders, told her she would burn in hell if she didn't take him back.
 
Yes.
He said she didn't look 14 "because she was so developed."

And I imagine the pressure from other church members, especially the male elders, told her she would burn in hell if she didn't take him back.
Plus it's not like they would see anything wrong with him grooming and abusing a minor girl. Even out of the church, many people don't especially back then.

I'd imagine being groomed as a minor and being in a relationship with the same (disgusting)man most of your life makes it all the harder to leave a relationship. I'm disappointed but not surprised she went back to him.
 
Plus it's not like they would see anything wrong with him grooming and abusing a minor girl. Even out of the church, many people don't especially back then.

I'd imagine being groomed as a minor and being in a relationship with the same (disgusting)man most of your life makes it all the harder to leave a relationship. I'm disappointed but not surprised she went back to him.
I think Bobye has got herself into something that I know LGB couples experience…that it can be very hard to leave your first love. You love them, you have hope, you might even come out for them, you grow into your identities together. And depending on if you have support from those around you or have the “right” skills, poverty can keep people trapped too. Now add the abuse of Bobye and the kids to that kind of toxic situation.

I’m a big believer, because of my own faith, worldview, and being brutally stubborn, that marriage should be for life. But not if your kids, your animals, or you, are physically or sexually hurt or threatened, or if someone is controlling vital things like all shared money or access to transportation.
 
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How many of you guys remember Jim and Bobye Holt?
They were sort of friends of the Duggars that testified against Sex-Pest Duggar at his trial.
Bobye left Jim a year a so ago, and filed a RO against him.
But she dropped the RO, and reconciled with Jim.
Apparently, the oldest (older?) son got full custody of the younger daughter, and temporary custody of the two youngest boys. Jim and Bobye didn't contest custody of the daughter because she's nearly 18, but they did contest the custody of the younger boys. They are now with the older brother for the time being.
I know it's not the most salient detail here, but I wish to point out that the Holts named a son "Scottlen". At least he can go by Scott, but I bet everyone thinks at first that he's called Scotland and he's going to have to explain for the rest of his life.

That's also a really ugly spelling of Charis. There's nothing wrong with the Greek virtue names, but spelling it that way looks trashy as fuck. Seth and Spencer really lucked out with relatively normal names.
 
From what I've read, Jeffs still calls most of the shots from prison.
There's a series on A&E currently airing - the name is really vague, "Secrets of Polygamy" - but it's actually been providing an update on the Jeffs clan. According to the show, Jeffs's branch of the FLDS has split into two or three branches. Some of the members still follow Jeffs (mainly his son, now, since Jeffs himself is in fragile health), but a significant chunk went to another younger man who proclaimed himself Prophet and who is also now in federal prison. A lot of followers have also become even more isolated, being moved out into remote areas in Idaho, the Dakotas, and Wyoming under heavy guard. A lot of these followers were among the children that Jeffs ordered kidnapped and moved to YFZ Ranch in Texas. Honestly, it appears the state of Utah doesn't want to get involved with this, but the FBI has been tracking down these missing kids (now young adults) and reuniting them with their families who are on the outside.
 
I don't know anything about anyone featured in Sister Wives, is anyone versed in that garbage fire autistic enough to make a post summarizing the major players and their receipts?

Not surprised a kid raised in a religious nut household that also had a TLC show committed suicide. I can't imagine the trauma that shit would cause :(
 
Countdown until Cody and Robin make this all about themselves
I think Janelle read his ass the riot act, because Kody has so far only posted an identically worded announcement to Janelle's, with identically agreed upon photos of their son.

That said, I'm sure Kody and Sobbin' will indeed find ways to either competitively greive, or be complete assholes about this.

Kody announced to People magazine in December that it didn't matter if he saw his older kids this past Christmas , because there would be other Christmases. I'm sure Garrison quietly took this hard, and I hope it haunts Kody for the rest of his miserable life.
 
The Browns of Sister Wives are old-fashioned Mormon polygamists, not Quiverfulls. Garrison was Kody's son with Janelle, his second wife. In the past few years, all of Kody's wives have left him except his youngest wife, Robyn.

During covid, Kody had a major falling out with most of his older children because he refused to see any of them unless they were socially distanced for weeks beforehand. He also stayed only with his youngest wife Robyn and her school-aged children, claiming he was protecting her. When Kody and Robyn eventually caught covid, they acted like they both almost died except...they didn't even come close. I think Robyn went to the ER for shortness of breath and they gave her a breathing treatment and sent her home.

Kody is a classic narcissist. He refused to be an adult and apologize to his older children, demanding instead that they kowtow to him. They didn't want to because of the way Kody has treated their moms, openly favoring Robyn and withholding intimacy and sex from the other wives unless they "show loyalty" by doing exactly what he ordered them to do. (And even when one of them did, Meri, he flat out told her he never loved her and had never been attracted to her. She's also the one who has a TIF daughter.)

It's terrible that Garrison committed suicide. His mother adored him and he was well-loved by his siblings. He was in the military, too, so I am assuming that had something to do with it. I don't believe any of the kids have any history of drug abuse, but fentanyl is everywhere and a lot of young people are committing suicide anyway. Kody will make it all about himself because that's what narcissists do.
 
Kody announced to People magazine in December that it didn't matter if he saw his older kids this past Christmas , because there would be other Christmases
There was a moment in one episode where Garrison told Robyn effectively, “you can have Kody. We don’t need him as a father figure.” I think that says it all. Poor guy.
 
There was a moment in one episode where Garrison told Robyn effectively, “you can have Kody. We don’t need him as a father figure.” I think that says it all. Poor guy.
Garrison and Gabriel (his brother) are very close and Gabriel held a lot of anger towards Kody over the last couple years, out of all the siblings he seemed the most vocal about Kody being a douche deadbeat father. This will sever the last ties between father and son.
 
is anyone versed in that garbage fire autistic enough to make a post summarizing the major players and their receipts?
I'm a casual viewer of the show, but I'll give it a try. The Browns aren't as milky as the other fundie families in this thread. They didn't force their kids into the polygamist lifestyle, none of the adult children live plural marriage. The adults children are pretty well adjusted. It's shocking that Garrison took his own life. He seemed the most headstrong.

Kody Brown( the patriarch, age 55)
Grew up in the mainstream Mormon church. Coming back home from a missionary trip in his early 20s Kody discovered his parents had become polygamists. Kody decided to follow in his dad's footsteps adopting the lifestyle. He has held various jobs such as marketing and firearms dealing. In recent years, however, no one knows what he does for money besides the show. Kody has fathered 13 kids with his 4 wives and adopted the 3 kids of wife #4. Like Jim Bob Duggar Kody only sees his kids as numbers to bolster his reputation in his respective community. The Kodester has admited he loses interest in his kids once they become adults. In the first season of the show it's obvious that soon-to-be wife #4 Robyn is his new favorite. As of January 2023 Kody is only legally and spiritually married to Robyn Brown.

Meri Brown(nee'Barber)(wife #1, age 53)
The first and originally the legal wife. Similar to Kody's upbringing Meri's parents became polygamists when she was a teen. Kody and Meri legally married in 1990. Her marriage to Kody has been troubled by fertility issues. Meri was only able to give birth to 1 child, Mariah(now Leon), who pooned out in 2022 along with her wife Audrey. In 2014 Meri gave up her legal marriage so that wife #4 Robyn could legally marry Kody. The reason for this was so Kody could adopt Robyn's 3 kids from a previous marriage. After the legal divorce Meri began chatting online with who she thought was a man named Sam. Going by the exchanged between Meri and this person it appeared to be a online afair. Meri later discovered she was being catfished by a woman. The incident caused further strain in her relationsip with Kody. Kody began spending less time with Meri and in later seasons it's revealed the two hadn't been intimate in over a decade. There is speculation among fans that the catfish was in cohoots with a friend of Robyn. Meri finally called it quits with Kody in 2023 announceing their breakup publically that January. Meri opended up a bread and breakfast in 2017 and has been part of the MLM company LuLaRoe since 2016. She has a rocky reltionship with several of the kids with there being verbal abuse allegations.

Janelle Brown(nee' Schriver)(wife #2, age 54)
The second wife. Janelle has 4 sons and 2 daughters with Kody. Sadly it was her son Garrison who passed away. Janelle grew up in the mainstream Mormon Church. Strangely, before spiritually marrying Kody Janelle was legally married to Meri's brother, Adam Barber. Janelle and Adam divorced after 2 years of marriage in 1990. The Brown family doesn't like to talk about this, it's never mentioned on the show. Janelle claims she's never been in a monogamus marrige and doesn't know how to get a divorce when she decided to leave Kody. It was Meri's idea that Kody court her fromer sister-in-law Janelle. Kody and Janelle spiritually married in 1993. Even more strangely, Janelle's mother entered plural marriage with Kody's father sometime after J and K tied the knot. Despite agreeing to live the polygamists lifestyle and birthing 6 kids Janelle prefered working outside the home. Janelle left the childrearing to wife #3 and was the breadwinner of the family. She also managed the family finances. Janelle has worked as a accountant and recently became a life coach. Janelle and Kody's relationship began to sour during the covid pandemic. Kody demanded Janelle kick their sons out of her house when they wouldn't follow the covid prevention protocls he set up. Janelle refused to do this and Kody blames her for his estranged relationship with his sons. Janelle left Kody in 2022. She remains close friends with wife #3.

Christine Woolley(formerly Brown)(nee' Allred)(wife #3, age 51)
Third wife and first to leave. Christine has 5 daughters and 1 son with Kody. Unlike the 3 people above Christine was born in polygamy. In fact her grandfather Rulon Allred is the founder of the Apostolic United Brehren, a more liberal branch of Mormon Fundamentalism. Rulon was assassinated on the orders of rivial polygamous leader Ervil LeBaron. Watch the Hulu documentary Daughters of the Cult to learn more about that. Christine has said growing up she always wantetd to enter plural marriage and be a third wife. Christine spiritually married Kody in 1994. The Kodester admits to marrying Christine for "her pedigree". During the day Christine was the caretaker of the Brown children. Christine was wary of Robyn entering the family and was the first to notice Kody's favortisim towards Robyn. The straw that broke the camel's back was Ysabel's(Christine and Kody's 5th child) Scoliosis. Ysabel devoloped Scoliosis in 2017, the family tried various treatments to help her cope with the pain. In 2020 it was decided that Ysabel would undergo surgery in New Jersey, she would be there for several weeks. Kody refused to accompany Ysabel to New Jersey, saying he couldn't be away from his family(Robyn and her kids) for that long. Christine left Kody in 2021, moving back to Utah. She still has one minor child with Kody, Truely who is 13. Christine met her current husband David Woolley in October of 2022. They married a year later. Janelle and 12 of the Brown children attended the wedding.
watch @48:53 for final straw

Robyn Brown(formerly Jessop)(nee' Sullivan)(wife #4, age 45)
The fourth and now only wife of Kody Brown. Robyn has 2 daughters and 1 son from a previous marriage. With Kody she has a son and daughter. According to Robyn her parents were polygamists. However, fans of the show believe Robyn's mother was more of a "other woman" than a sister wife. Robyn's first marriage to David Jessop was monogamus. The Brown family seems to like "keeping it in the family" as David Jessop is a cousin of Christine. Robyn and Jessop divorced in 2007. She met the Browns in 2009 with Meri suggesting Kody court Robyn. Robyn and Kody spiritually married in 2010. Season 1 of Sister Wives featured the prepartion for and wedding ceremony. In later seasons Robyn claimed that her ex-husband was abusive. This is contridicated by an episode of the show were Robyn's kids are prepering to visit their dad and are quite happy about it as they haven't seen him in awhile. In December of 2014 Robyn legally married Kody after Meri gave up her legal wife status, viewers are told it was Meri's idea. Kody adopted the 3 kids in 2015. Another story viewers are told is that David Jessop gave up parential rights so he would no longer have to pay child support. Fans speculate Jessop was blackmailed into it because of medical bills Dayton(Jessop and Robyn's son) had incurred after a 4-wheeler accident under Kody's watch. Apparently, in exchange for his giving up parental rights Jessop wouldn't be responsible for the medical bills and would be allowed countiued visits with his chidren. Robyn and Kody renege on the visitation part of the deal. Jessop remarried and has 4 kids with his current wife. In February 2023 it was revealed Jessop has Leukemia, a gofundme has been set up. Robyn nor the children have acknowledge Jessop's cancer battle. Besides the My Sisterwife's Closet business the wives briefly had Robyn has never worked. From watching Sister Wives it's obvious Robyn joining the family led to the Brown clan's downfall. Kody found his soulmate in Robyn as has been stated by Christine. Robyn and her children monopolized Kody's time. An example of this is when it was the other wives time with Kody he would still leave their home in the morning to assist Robyn with getting her kids rather for school. He never assisted the other wives with their children in the morning. Family celebrations also changed because of Robyn. Originally the Browns did not celebrate Easter before Robyn joined the family. On her first Easter with the family Robyn threaten to go to her mother's upon learning there would be no Easter celebration.

 
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