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I feel like Bethany could go on in her miserable marriage forever, but Paul and Morgan will implode somehow. Divorce, separation, mental breakdown—something’s got to give. What do you guys think?
I feel like the opposite will happen. Däv is clearly beyond his breaking point, and has already started deconstructing via individual therapy. He looks utterly miserable whenever Bethany is around, and her newly discovered sex drive seems to scare the shit out of him. I think Däv will file.

On the other hand, while Morgan might snap one day, she is too stupid to figure out how to file for a divorce or hire a lawyer. So she'd have to ask Paul how it works, and he would explode and gaslight her until she agreed to stay. Paul might hate fatherhood and seethe endlessly at his wife, but a divorce is a blow to his fragile Christian manhood. Plus, who would he kick around for fun without Morgan and the kids?
 
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Plus, who would he kick around for fun without Morgan and the kids?
This is true. I think there's a minor but real possibility they're forced to separate due to Morgan having a massive mental breakdown or something unforeseen but equally dramatic. They just seem like a powderkeg, while Bethany is more of a simmer. It would be pretty exciting if Dav leaves her to join a milqetoast church where he can be openly gay.
 
Is Dav the one that's all but confirmed to have gone to gay conversion camp? If so yeah, I imagine he makes a break for it and gets a nice boyfriend within the decade. Especially if he's in actual therapy and deconstructing.

Paul sounds like a real piece of shit and it sucks another kid is going to be born into that environment. Doesn't he let his existing kid run wild around Walmart and shit?
 
Plus, who would he kick around for fun without Morgan and the kids?
She's a future Andrea Yates and he's a future family annihilator (and she knows he is, even if she doesn't know the phrase). Either she bottles everything up until the drowning, or he shoots them all when she asks for a divorce/has a big enough breakdown.
 
She's a future Andrea Yates and he's a future family annihilator (and she knows he is, even if she doesn't know the phrase). Either she bottles everything up until the drowning, or he shoots them all when she asks for a divorce/has a big enough breakdown.
I can 100% see Morgan being on Snapped one day.
 
Doesn't he let his existing kid run wild around Walmart and shit?
Luca is only 14 months old, I don't think he's wandering anywhere on his own yet.

But as mentioned before, she just got knocked up again, unexpectedly (they went through six years of infertility before they conceived.) Morgan is having a full on BPD mental breakdown at the idea of being pregnant and giving birth again (yes, she is diagnosed with BPD and is not receiving any sort of treatment or medication.)

Firstly, her husband is an ex LA based hairdresser fag who demands they both remain below a 20 BMI, so pregnancy and the snap back are extra catty times for Paul. She also got sucked into the natural home birth Christian thing, backed up by Paul who hates paying for things and has no job. It went horribly and she and their son nearly died as a result. Finally, Paul is a controlling narcissist on top of being a catty fag, and he delights in pushing all her buttons, all at once, all the time, for the sheer joy of watching her swallow her crazy down in the name of Christian womanhood.

So the predictions of her snapping, or him deciding to kill them all as a grand favor as their Christian protector, are not unlikely. And those chances are way more likely than Porgan divorcing, IMO. Even if Stupid Morgan managed to get her family's help in initiating one, Paul would likely kill her lest she reignite her career in Christian music and realize she never needed him.
 
I could see Paul agreeing to a divorce if Morgan is sent to inpatient because she failed as a Christian wife.
No way he'd take that risk. He can't get a job and divorces can cost money. He'd fuck other women while visiting her in hospital to tell her he's got needs and she's failing him in that department right now, but he'll get rid of his other girlfriends once she's out of the psych ward (he won't).
 
I know she has hateful beliefs, but I feel terrible for Morgan. While she might be an adult who is ostensibly capable of making independent decisions, it's pretty clear that she has some flavor of mental illness which impairs her ability to reason, and that fact is being exploited by her husband. Of course, she thinks that he loves her and acts the way he does because he's a good husband, and she wouldn't welcome my pity, but it's just so sad to think of how she lives. I hadn't read about her and Paul since I lurked on the FundieSnark subreddit, so I wasn't aware that they'd had a child.

Luca is their first child (a son, in spite of the name).
Luca is an unequivocally male name in places where it is more commonly used. Hipsters can claim all they want that it's "gender neutral", but that's not borne out by history.

I feel like Bethany could go on in her miserable marriage forever, but Paul and Morgan will implode somehow. Divorce, separation, mental breakdown—something’s got to give. What do you guys think?
I think this is an accurate assessment. It seems to me that the difference between Bethany and Morgan is that Bethany clearly wields the power in her relationship with her husband, and she knows it. There are definitely "fundie" women who are the de facto head of their households, and she's one of them. I think she probably believes that she is Dāv's submissive helpmeet, but that's not really evinced by their interactions with each other.

Morgan seems much more passive. Men like Paul are good at identifying weak women like Morgan, and they seek them out because they're easier to control. I don't think that Bethany would willingly accept being treated the way Paul treats Morgan. Her personality strikes me as much stronger than Morgan's.
 
I think a good chunk of fundiewives feel like this, though most will never admit it
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Unsure of the authenticity due to reddit, but good for her for getting an IUD without asking. She sounds like she was touched out from having so many small kids with such small gaps. Her husband is such a retard for being mad about it, they already have enough kids.
Dr. Linda Ojo, a reproductive psychiatrist, says the phrase "touched out" explains the "overwhelming discomfort from receiving physical touch after being immersed in physical touch all day." "(It's) a feeling that if one more person touches you, you will crawl out of your skin,"
 
Unsure of the authenticity due to reddit, but good for her for getting an IUD without asking. She sounds like she was touched out from having so many small kids with such small gaps. Her husband is such a retard for being mad about it, they already have enough kids.

Sounds like trauma and severe burnout to me, but I'm an autist and any level of human touch is problematic. But then, "why not both?"

In one of my autist groups a new mum was complaining that her toddler kept touching her and didn't understand her "boundaries". Way to raise a psychopath, lady. Kids need cuddles to grow properly, and if you keep having one on top of the other, you can pretty much kiss all bodily autonomy goodbye until fifteen years after menopause.

In the book Sins of the Brother, a biography of Ivan Milat the Backpacker Murderer, a great deal of the focus is on his family and upbringing. His family wasn't religious but his mother certainly popped them out like a 1920s Irish Catholic. She loved her children, but the grinding poverty combined with a lack of contraception made for an upbringing that impressed on them all that if they wanted something, they had to take it. Milat's mother was physically destroyed by the endless congo line of children, hernias everywhere, busted back, arthritis in every joint...

If women were meant to reproduce like rabbits, then why did God invent menopause? If women have no use other than cooking, cleaning, and whelping, why are they genetically programmed with a shelf life? You'd think that quiverfull followers would think more on that.
 
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