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Who else read Jill’s book? I thought she let her parents off realllly lightly. I’m curious to hear thoughts from non redditards.
 
Who else read Jill’s book? I thought she let her parents off realllly lightly. I’m curious to hear thoughts from non redditards.
I bought it and will read it this weekend.

Some of the excerpts I've read have enraged me, so I will need several stiff drinks to keep me sane.
 
Any interesting excerpts that should be ITT? Does she talk about Pest at all?
 
Karissa being insanely creepy about her daughters and revealing her internalized misogyny
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I don't believe anyone pities her, because boys have their own difficulties that include most of the ones she listed there. She just wants to be special but is a dude of a person.
I pity the girls she views as just future broodsows (and forces to be the primary caregivers of their younger siblings).
 
Karissa being insanely creepy about her daughters and revealing her internalized misogyny
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"Seven financial burdens" how, exactly, are girls more of a financial burden? Are you expecting to have to buy them a husband like the Indians do? And if that's indeed the case, why is a dowry a huge burden when you don't plan on giving them any sort of education anyway?

Make it make sense.
 
"Seven financial burdens" how, exactly, are girls more of a financial burden? Are you expecting to have to buy them a husband like the Indians do? And if that's indeed the case, why is a dowry a huge burden when you don't plan on giving them any sort of education anyway?

Make it make sense.
It’s probably because they think Jesus said that women shouldn’t have jobs and should stay at home caring for the kids all day. So they aren’t ever going to be “entering the workforce” and financially contributing towards food or bills. Of course motherhood and housekeeping is a whole full time job in its own right but don’t expect someone who has alarmingly large amounts of internalised misogyny to understand that.
 
Fundie men divorcing seems to be better tolerated, like Rusty Yates divorcing Andrea after she went to prison and could no longer fulfill her role as a baby factory.

I really wish the role fundie insanity played in the Andrea Yates case was more widely discussed, as well as what a nasty creepy shithead Rusty Yates is (who absolutely deserves some blame for what happened). When the trial happened that shit felt like it was completely overlooked and everyone was treating Rusty like an innocent victim, and even to this day outside of dedicated fundie-criticizing spaces it's not really discussed.
If you think everyone was letting Rusty off the hook, we do not inhabit the same reality.
 
If you think everyone was letting Rusty off the hook, we do not inhabit the same reality.
Did you seriously respond to a months old comment just to share this deep thought?

Edited to add that Rusty Yates was allowed to continue living his life. He even remarried and had a new and improved family. That doesn't really sound like a guy who is "on the hook" to me.
 
Did you seriously respond to a months old comment just to share this deep thought?

Edited to add that Rusty Yates was allowed to continue living his life. He even remarried and had a new and improved family. That doesn't really sound like a guy who is "on the hook" to me.
His second wife divorced him, IIRC.

He should've been in jail next to Andrea (I know she's in a mental health place now), many people I know thought he was just as responsible for the deaths of those children as she was.
 
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Who else read Jill’s book? I thought she let her parents off realllly lightly. I’m curious to hear thoughts from non redditards.
thought Jill was beyond generous to be honest. She kept emphasizing how much her parents loved her, and left out the things like blanket training and the horrible education she got, and very much glossed over how she was forced to sister mom so early. I get why she focused on the stuff she did, as most of it was the fairly recent stuff, her marriage, the Josh scandals, the financial abuse. I think it will take her much longer to both come to terms with and speak about her childhood in negative terms, if she ever will. She also didn’t seemed to have absorbed that her dad committed some variety of tax fraud in her and her husband’s name, but I suspect that will be truly hitting soon. I hope the IRS have Jim Bob in their sights right now. That’s the bit that I found truly worth buying the book for tbh. And I honestly came away with a decent picture of Derek. Still a pretentious ass, but one who clearly loves his wife and supports her, which is more than a lot of the guys in fundiedom.
 
The Plaths are mentioned itt, right? Not sure how "newsy" it is because they've separated before but Ethan and Olivia have separated again and this time it looks permanent. His evil mom is probably rejoicing.

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The relationship was doomed from the start. It takes a particular kind of personality to be able to stay in a relationship with a person his mom doesn't like. Ethan does not have that kind of personality.
 
Some small updates from the fundie snark subreddit.

Bethany Beal continues to produce impossibly cringey content about Christian sex. Right now, she's fixated on oral sex:

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Along with her sister, she built her original following with the "Girl Defined" brand. It was very G-rated content about (their version of) how a good Christian girl should live and date. Kristin has been pulling away from the original brand, and Bethany has spiraled off into . . . whatever this is.

Paul and Morgan Olliges, wannabe influencers who appeared on Shiny Happy People, are expecting a second child. Morgan, who has diagnosed but unmedicated mental issues, is not doing so well:

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Luca is their first child (a son, in spite of the name). She quite literally nearly died giving birth to him and was only saved by a last-minute rush to the hospital. Their unqualified midwife was in way over her head, and it was a difficult birth. At the hospital, Paul was warned that she might not make it. I'm sure she actually is truly traumatized, and I'm equally sure they will continue to be irresponsible about prenatal care and childbirth.

She was so upset that she bought a pregnancy test and took it right there and then in the store bathroom:

 
Isn't Morgan also BPD/mentally ill and one of the ones people are worried is another Andrea Yates in the making if she keeps having kids?

Is that the raw milk Beal sister? Imagine the smell.

Watched the two episodes that are out of Let Us Prey last night, very heavy and disturbing but sadly nothing surprising if you're familiar with the Independent Fundie Baptist world. They mainly focused on the stories of several CSA survivors and how the churches enabled and protected their abusers, never reported them to authorities and even blamed them for abuse (since these types blame even baby and toddler girls for "tempting" grown men to abuse them and shit).

I hope the series raises more awareness about IFB churches and they finally get the reckoning they've needed for decades.
 
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