🤝 Community Quiverfull Movement Lolcows - Starring the Duggars

[Android raptor]

Late but I think that woman's youngest boy is always seen in her social media posts with a filthy, unchanged diaper, often while wandering around very far from the nearest "responsible" adult.

Sounds about right, the youngest girl baby ended up in the hospital because of a nasty UTI from sitting in dirty diapers.

If you can't even be bothered to do something as basic as changing your kids diapers, you don't need to be making more.

 

[Judy Garland’s Corpse]

Sounds about right, the youngest girl baby ended up in the hospital because of a nasty UTI from sitting in dirty diapers.

If you can't even be bothered to do something as basic as changing your kids diapers, you don't need to be making more.

According to Karissa, that’s exactly why you should make more kids.

 

[Android raptor]

Don't have to worry about how you're going to care for more children if you never attempt to do so at all and just pawn the responsibility off on your oldest daughers.

Karissa, your infant daughter ended up in the hospital because you couldn't be assed to change her diapers. I think you passed the point of just scarring your kids a while ago.

 

[SituationTypeThing]

According to Karissa, that’s exactly why you should make more kids.View attachment 5075092View attachment 5075093

Makes you wonder what God's plan was for Andrea Yates and her poor children? The treatment/answer/strength isn't from God like this nonsense. If there's a God, God made medical and pharmaceutical professionals to organize, develop the mental health field, develop appropriate pharmaceuticals, and treat people with mental health issues. This is how their God saves people. He's not up there with a wand zapping people into health and capability.

 

[Judy Garland’s Corpse]

More Karissa insanity, apparently her children are given sore throats by God when they lie. So what was baby Anthym’s egregious sin to end up septic?

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

So what was baby Anthym’s egregious sin to end up septic?

Watched a secular baby show.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Makes you wonder what God's plan was for Andrea Yates and her poor children? The treatment/answer/strength isn't from God like this nonsense. If there's a God, God made medical and pharmaceutical professionals to organize, develop the mental health field, develop appropriate pharmaceuticals, and treat people with mental health issues. This is how their God saves people. He's not up there with a wand zapping people into health and capability.

I grew up fundie and if anything, medicine was def the thing to be doing if your kid was sick, but I believe this is due to Dr Carson being big in the SDA church and that’s what I grew up in. So there was a general belief that it’s okay to seek out medical care because god gave drs the ability to help others. At least I got vaccinated, orthodox Jewish people don’t

 

[Free the Pedos]

At least I got vaccinated, orthodox Jewish people don’t

Most do, and when they don’t it’s less of an ideological thing than just not prioritizing it.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Most do, and when they don’t it’s less of an ideological thing than just not prioritizing it.

Not in the orthodox community I grew up in. New Rochelle and other areas where there’s a large ortho population have had outbreaks of measles and stuff because those kids aren’t vaccinated. But yeah, I get what you mean. It’s on the parent, not the religion.

 

[Android raptor]

I'd imagine it depends on the specific variety of Christian fundie you're talking about. I don't doubt there are antivax ones out there.

 

[Free the Pedos]

Not in the orthodox community I grew up in. New Rochelle and other areas where there’s a large ortho population have had outbreaks of measles and stuff because those kids aren’t vaccinated. But yeah, I get what you mean. It’s on the parent, not the religion.

Most of the unvaxed I knew in Monsey were because when you don’t drive and have 8 kids under ten, so getting them to the doctor for shots was difficult. But I do always like hearing about how different frum weirdos live, so thank you I didn’t even know there was a community in New Rochelle.

 

[SituationTypeThing]

Not in the orthodox community I grew up in. New Rochelle and other areas where there’s a large ortho population have had outbreaks of measles and stuff because those kids aren’t vaccinated. But yeah, I get what you mean. It’s on the parent, not the religion.

There's a BIG difference between the orthodox and the ultra orthodox/haredi/chassidic. You were among the ultra orthodox. Not vaxxing is mild compared to some of their other health-ignorant beliefs and rituals. I don't know the exact degree of orthodoxy in new rochelle, but I know all about the ultra orthodox of kyrias joel about an hour away.

Most of the unvaxed I knew in Monsey were because when you don’t drive and have 8 kids under ten, so getting them to the doctor for shots was difficult. But I do always like hearing about how different frum weirdos live, so thank you I didn’t even know there was a community in New Rochelle.

Are you familiar with the kiryas joel village and town of palm tree in NY?

 

[Free the Pedos]

Are you familiar with the kiryas joel village and town of palm tree in NY?

For sure, why?

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

There's a BIG difference between the orthodox and the ultra orthodox/haredi/chassidic. You were among the ultra orthodox. Not vaxxing is mild compared to some of their other health-ignorant beliefs and rituals. I don't know the exact degree of orthodoxy in new rochelle, but I know all about the ultra orthodox of kyrias joel about an hour away.

Yes, that's true. Although, I'm downstate. I grew up in this community super well known for being all orthodox and I worked in the community and so it was definitely interesting.

my best friend was a tutor and said the math and other skills were atrocious, but it makes sense when your priorities are learning hebrew rather than state standards.

Also, the amount of traffic around the area on Fridays was insane.

ETA, regarding Kiryas Joel:

According to 2008 census figures, the village has the highest poverty rate in the nation. More than two-thirds of the residents live below the federal poverty line, and 40% receive food stamps

 

[multiverse]

More on the Collins family, since you guys seems to have an appetite for how awful the children's situation is.

Here is Karissa's most recent post about how she homeschools. See, she's tried tons and tons of different curricula, but they were all too hard for her to keep up with during the maybe two hours per days she allots for schooling eight children (two of them are too young for preschool). Each kid gets 15 minutes of school, and that's got to be enough, right?

And homeschool co-ops were also too hard for poor Karissa to keep up with. Plus, the state of Texas doesn't make her turn in any work, so she's got that going for her!

She finally landed on a curriculum that involves no math whatsoever, but that's no problem because kids learn all the math they need by coming with Karissa to the grocery store.

They can totally go to college after they graduate from K-K-Karissa Klasses!

But the most important thing is to be consistent. You stay consistent by changing your curricula nonstop. Got it?



So how's the Karissa Klass Method working out, you ask? Well, here is a card Karissa's eldest daughter made for her, when Annisa was nine years old.

What does she have in common with her mama? "We both have the samme mindil name Beth!"

What does Anissa appreciate getting from her mother? "Clos and my pans and my shoos and my nils pallish!"

Their favorite things to do together is too much of a mystery to me besides their, uh, love of putting things away, but Anissa does use the word "pikshores" for "pictures".

What does Anissa admire about her mother? Well, prepare to be sad, because Anissa has obviously absorbed her mother's hatred of dark skin and ethnic hair texture, as she wishes to have Mama's skin and hair. "You are so prite and I want yor har so bad! And yor makeup and yor hit!"



Reddit has a video of a 12 year old Anissa struggling to read a 3rd grade level story book to one of her numerous younger siblings. Part of the issue is that she clearly needs glasses, but Karissa never made the mistake of showing off her children's reading skills again.

 

[Android raptor]

Yeah those kids aren't getting into any college except maybe some fundie school like PCC that has courses to teach all the homeschoolers basic reading and math skills.

I'm under the impression most fundies who homeschool just chuck a workbook at their kids. If that.

 

[multiverse]

I found an overview of the "Gather Round Homeschool" program. It was only created in 2019, so it's completely untested as to whether anyone actually learns anything using this method. This review is by another crazy fundie homeschooler who reviews fundie home based learning material.

Two hours per day is the absolute minimum time commitment recommended by this trash excuse for an educational program, which is why Karissa brags about spending so little time on her children's education. It's unlikely she's even spending that much time on lessons, she's just claiming to do the minimum level of participation.

No math, and the entire thing is basically flinging workbooks at your kids an expecting them to figure out how to learn.

According to the publisher, each day's lesson can be completed in as few as two hours per day, even with two or more children. Lessons are very flexible so that you can spend more time if you want to go off on rabbit trails with Optional Extension Activities.

Overall, it appears that the program is much more informational than experiential. It is weighted toward reading and research, although the recommended internet sites sometimes include videos and activities. The amount of hands-on activity varies from unit to unit. Oceans, the first unit written for the program, has very few, but more hands-on activities have been added to subsequent units. Most units have at least one hands-on activity each week.

 

[Android raptor]

I'm sure she's just flinging workbooks at them, maybe making the older kids supervise. Highly doubt she's taking them on educational trips or anything (even though many museums, zoos, aquariums, etc have special programs and events for homeschoolers).

I'm sure that poor oldest daughter who can barely read is already the primary caregiver of her younger siblings

 

[SpiceyHuman]

I'm sure she's just flinging workbooks at them, maybe making the older kids supervise. Highly doubt she's taking them on educational trips or anything (even though many museums, zoos, aquariums, etc have special programs and events for homeschoolers).

I'm sure that poor oldest daughter who can barely read is already the primary caregiver of her younger siblings

Powerlevel time. I was homeschooled from kindergarten to college. My parents busted their asses to ensure that I received a legitimate education. There is absolutely no way two hours of any curriculum would ever be enough to cover the material necessary. The teaching parent literally has to devote themselves to a full time job in order to educate you. If done correctly, it will NOT easy on the parent. My mother utilized many of the homeschool programs and tours catered especially to homeschoolers at zoos and museums as mentioned by @Android raptor . They are a wonderful way to really help expand the schooling experience. I was also in sports, 4H, girlscouts, martial arts, etc. All of these are essential for young education.

And, yes, while homeschool credits often do transfer to many universities and jr colleges, you still need to take an entrance exam in many cases. I can guarantee you that Karissa's children will not be able to score high enough to enter any jr college at the rate their education is going.

 

[multiverse]

I'm sure that poor oldest daughter who can barely read is already the primary caregiver of her younger siblings

And their teacher. And their primary housekeeper. And their primary cook.

Anissa is 13 years old, and I don't think she can be considered literate (a 5th grade reading level is required to be considered generally literate.)

Karissa only cares for her own children when they are the latest child - and even then, they are mostly handed off to her older daughters whenever they aren't being fed (remember: Anissa is the eldest at 13.) She discards each baby as the new one comes in.

But even when they're her latest baby, Karissa will neglect them terribly. Her two year old has gone septic twice due to UTIs from unchanged diapers.

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Now for some fresh abuse. Three days ago, Karissa describes how she gaslights her daughters into confessing that they're filthy liars when they have an illness.

You see, one of her daughters said her throat hurt. So Karissa scream interrogated her until that girl confessed to being a liar about "everything".


But Karissa also makes her children, in her own words, "scream pray" with her whenever Mama's psychosis gets going. Two pregnancies ago, she had a miscarriage, and she forced the children - who were all visiting their youngest sister in the hospital for sepsis - to scream pray her fetus back to life. Karissa told them it was possible to bring her dead fetus back to life, but only if their faith was strong enough. This, of course, did not result in a fetus resurrection. Psychological torture like this is apparently par for the course in their home.

Maybe the child's throat was sore from being regularly expected to scream in hysterics whenever their lunatic mother tells them to. Maybe she was sick, because Karissa keeps them out at public parks for roughly ten hours per day, because her husband tells them to get lost while he chills at home. But that girl was definitely not sick from having a "lying tongue".

But you can bet Karissa is running roughshod over that unnamed daughter forever now, as her scapegoat child.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Karissa kills one of the children one of these days, believing in her delusions that the child is suffering from demons. It will be a girl child, because Karissa hates all her girls in particular.