🤝 Community Quiverfull Movement Lolcows - Starring the Duggars

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It's more of a religious principle you see in various Christian faiths rather than a denomination itself. Yes, there are women begging not to have more kids, being unfairly pressured against her well-being, etc., but most people who practice it are pretty varied. Some people who take the theological position are natalists like myself, and some lean more to providentialism, which I understand why many mainstream Americans especially find the latter superstitious.
Quiverfull is definitely its own category separate from any serious theological bent towards pro natalism.
 
Wait, the interracial couple is staying with a racist fundie couple? Or are the interracial couples somehow racist?

Not that race is particularly relevant to any of this, since most quiverfull types are white and the way they treat their kids is unacceptable regardless.
Some guy named Tyson James and his wife Lexie. They have more than a few screws loose as well.
 
Quiverfull is definitely its own category separate from any serious theological bent towards pro natalism.
It's related to or tied very strongly to Dominionism, Latter Rain, Goddard and Christian Nationalism. It's a whole rabbit hole because if you look into one you'll start finding the others, because they influenced each other through the decades, and it's a fascinating journey.

What I've found is that if something gets enough Christianese loaded into it, and people want to believe in it enough, they will turn off their brains even though it can verge on being theologically sketchy. There is a lot of Biblical illiteracy right now, people will believe stuff that sounds Christian because they don't know enough of the Bible to tell if someone is full of it or pulling a verse out of context. It's how you get manmade doctrines, or worse, cults.
 
The fact that a lot of these evangelical breeding cults pop up in rural areas with poor education systems and high poverty doesn't help either. It's basically a perfect storm of factors.
 
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I do wonder, the fuck were they feeding their kids? Fucking Great Patriotic War tier starvation rations? I'm not saying over consumption isn't a problem today but they do realize that healthy in medieval times does not mean healthy now right?
 
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It's related to or tied very strongly to Dominionism, Latter Rain, Goddard and Christian Nationalism. It's a whole rabbit hole because if you look into one you'll start finding the others, because they influenced each other through the decades, and it's a fascinating journey.

What I've found is that if something gets enough Christianese loaded into it, and people want to believe in it enough, they will turn off their brains even though it can verge on being theologically sketchy. There is a lot of Biblical illiteracy right now, people will believe stuff that sounds Christian because they don't know enough of the Bible to tell if someone is full of it or pulling a verse out of context. It's how you get manmade doctrines, or worse, cults.
Wasn't it Gothard? Or is Goddard another ult I don't know about? It's getting hard keeping up.
 
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Wasn't it Gothard? Or is Goddard another ult I don't know about? It's getting hard keeping up.
It's Gothard.

Bill Gothard, Howard Phillips, and Doug Phillips are Christian Reconstructionists.

Doug Phillips's business is Vision Forum. Doug's father helped establish the Moral Majority, and recruited Jerry Falwell to head of that organization.

Rousas Rushdoony modeled his movement after the John Birch Society and is considered the father of Christian Reconstructionism.

This just part of the rabbit hole, am still looking up the stuff with Latter Day Rain and it's Manifest Sons of God movement.

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Mainly what I could gather is that Latter Rain simply influenced quite a few people, there is more stuff relating to Kingdom Now and a few other kooky movements. It's fascinating stuff, but lots of cross pollination can make it a bit confusing.
 
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The fact that a lot of these evangelical breeding cults pop up in rural areas with poor education systems and high poverty doesn't help either. It's basically a perfect storm of factors.
Education and poverty actually have next to nothing to do with it. It's all religion.

Want to kill a woman's fertility? Force her to get a PHD. Want to revive it from the grave? Force her to sit in a pew every week. It does not matter how rich or poor you are, if you're extremely religious you're going to be having kids.
 
Education and poverty actually have next to nothing to do with it. It's all religion.

Want to kill a woman's fertility? Force her to get a PHD. Want to revive it from the grave? Force her to sit in a pew every week. It does not matter how rich or poor you are, if you're extremely religious you're going to be having kids.
Guess thats why fundies don't like girls going to college and try to force them to get married as soon as possible. Can't have your future helpmeets figuring out there are other, better options for them out there!

Related, apparently one of the Duck Dynasty guys (and some other creepy fundie dudes think child marriage is a-okay because otherwise middle school age girls will have sex with their classmates/teachers/police officers/janitors/etc.

EDIT: Fundies in their own words describing the marriage of a 15 year-old girl to a 27 year-old pedophile
 
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Guess thats why fundies don't like girls going to college and try to force them to get married as soon as possible. Can't have your future helpmeets figuring out there are other, better options for them out there!

Related, apparently one of the Duck Dynasty guys (and some other creepy fundie dudes think child marriage is a-okay because otherwise middle school age girls will have sex with their classmates/teachers/police officers/janitors/etc.

EDIT: Fundies in their own words describing the marriage of a 15 year-old girl to a 27 year-old pedophile
“When Matthew opened the card, there was a beautiful photograph of Maranatha. Included on the card were some instructions: ‘On January 1st, you may ask Maranatha to marry you.’ As Matthew looked up, Stan said, ‘On the evening of this coming New Year's Day, you may propose to Maranatha.’”

Lol, what’d he give him the card for if he was just gonna tell him anyway? Not enough pomp for the man who gifts his daughter to a predator?
 
Guess thats why fundies don't like girls going to college and try to force them to get married as soon as possible. Can't have your future helpmeets figuring out there are other, better options for them out there!

Related, apparently one of the Duck Dynasty guys (and some other creepy fundie dudes think child marriage is a-okay because otherwise middle school age girls will have sex with their classmates/teachers/police officers/janitors/etc.

EDIT: Fundies in their own words describing the marriage of a 15 year-old girl to a 27 year-old pedophile
I was going to get on you for exaggerating, but these guys are creeps for advocating marriage as a solution to female sexuality and saying it's a problem to be contained.

Also Gothard fundies really speak in riddles. Why not just tell the guy what's going on rather than pretending you're God and giving all this mysterious advice like, "Don't tell the girl!" and, "Grow in your relationship with the Lord," without specifying how he lacked.
 
I was going to get on you for exaggerating, but these guys are creeps for advocating marriage as a solution to female sexuality and saying it's a problem to be contained.

Also Gothard fundies really speak in riddles. Why not just tell the guy what's going on rather than pretending you're God and giving all this mysterious advice like, "Don't tell the girl!" and, "Grow in your relationship with the Lord," without specifying how he lacked.
Just the fact that they think middle school girls are having sex with everyone from police officers to janitors (and even if they were, it would be anything other than adult child molesters grooming/abusing children) is massively creepy and extremely telling.

I think the weird riddles are the least thing wrong with a dude allowing an adult pedophile to marry his underage daughter. Who was apparently only 13 when he first expressed interest in her :cryblood:
 
Just the fact that they think middle school girls are having sex with everyone from police officers to janitors (and even if they were, it would be anything other than adult child molesters grooming/abusing children) is massively creepy and extremely telling.

I think the weird riddles are the least thing wrong with a dude allowing an adult pedophile to marry his underage daughter. Who was apparently only 13 when he first expressed interest in her :cryblood:
The weird riddles tell me they also know there's something wrong with the way they're living. If you can't list out concrete problems, then it's all a bunch of smoke and mirrors as far as your "standards."

As for the other guys: It's "grab them by the pussy" locker room talk. It's just misogyny. That's just what they think of women and girls. Say what you want about the Duggars; they at least realize purity and chastity is the best course for young people, irrespective of gender.
 
Former Vision Forum intern Nathaniel "Natty" Darnell was 40 (or thereabouts) when he married a woman who was in her 20s. Prior to the blessed nuptials, the groom had at least half a dozen (!) "failed courtships", all with much younger women.

Their engagement photos are hilarious. He looks like her dad.

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Natty himself is a total lolcow and at one time was a cult favorite over at FreeJinger. He has (had?) a blog where he shared his extremely enlightened thoughts about such topics as hysterical women, "blasphemous and adulterous" science, and taxes. He has a JD from an unaccredited university but as far as I know has never passed the bar.

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Studly.
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KING-MAKER!!
 
Former Vision Forum intern Nathaniel "Natty" Darnell was 40 (or thereabouts) when he married a woman who was in her 20s. Prior to the blessed nuptials, the groom had at least half a dozen (!) "failed courtships", all with much younger women.

Their engagement photos are hilarious. He looks like her dad.


Natty himself is a total lolcow and at one time was a cult favorite over at FreeJinger. He has (had?) a blog where he shared his extremely enlightened thoughts about such topics as hysterical women, "blasphemous and adulterous" science, and taxes. He has a JD from an unaccredited university but as far as I know has never passed the bar.

At least she was an adult. Though knowing these types, I wouldn't be surprised if he would've married a child if it was legal.

Apparently the Duck Dynasty guy was 18 and his wife was 14 when they started dating, and she was 16 when they got married. He also thinks by 20 a girl is unmarriable.
 
The Plaths are a family of nine kids (eight living): Ethan, Hosanna, Micah, Moriah, Lydia, Isaac, Jacob, and three little girls that blur together for me. Jacob died at three when Kim accidentally ran him over with a tractor. They lived on a farm in Georgia and Kim was extremely high-control. They have/had a TLC show, Welcome to Plathville, but it downplayed the fundie aspects in favour of family drama. Hosanna is married to Timothy Noble, and she's a regular fundie who has nothing to do with any of this.

They have a lot of family drama. Ethan is married and his wife doesn't get on with Kim, so the families are estranged. Hosanna seems to avoid the whole show. Moriah and Micah both moved out and rebelled. Barry and Kim recently divorced.

Here they are in better times:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hfSftly0w8I:11
The Plath's remind me of a more put together version of the Stockdale family from Wife Swap.
 
Minor rant: I fucking loathe religion being used in any capacity to justify keeping women illiterate and dependent. Not even for the typical feminist aspects that come with such a thing, mind you. All of that is already a given.

What I take umbrage with is how fucking convoluted interpersonal relationships become because of all this Puritanism. How the fuck can men raised in such an environment even begin to form remotely healthy relationships with the women in their lives if everyone outside of who the family elders approve of is off limits?
 
Minor rant: I fucking loathe religion being used in any capacity to justify keeping women illiterate and dependent. Not even for the typical feminist aspects that come with such a thing, mind you. All of that is already a given.

What I take umbrage with is how fucking convoluted interpersonal relationships become because of all this Puritanism. How the fuck can men raised in such an environment even begin to form remotely healthy relationships with the women in their lives if everyone outside of who the family elders approve of is off limits?
Because healthy relationships with their wives don't matter. The wife has to have babies, cook and clean, and "keep sweet".
And that's it. Her hopes, dreams, problems, etc don't matter.
It's all about the husband's comfort.
 
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