🐱 Queering Robin and Our Modern Mythologies

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Robin, the comic book sidekick of Batman, has come out as queer in a storyline that many readers believe has been a long time coming. In establishing Tim Drake as queer in comics canon, the writers employ the mythic power of comics to make space for queer readers, echoing readings of Biblical mythology by queer theologians.

Tim Drake has had an on-again, off-again relationship with Stephanie Brown (aka Spoiler), and at the conclusion to the “Tim Drake: Sum of Our Parts” story arc in Batman: Urban Legends #6, he agrees to a date with his friend Bernard.

On launch day, Meghan Fitzmartin, one of the writers for the issue (along with Joshua Williamson, Matthew Rosenberg, and Chip Zdarsky) tweeted, “My goal in writing has been and will always be to show just how much God loves you. You are so incredibly loved and important and seen…”

She told the BBC that she spent “a lot of time and a lot of prayer” making sure Robin’s coming out was respectful and wholesome — no mean feat when the Robin mantle has been the target of countless homophobic jokes over the decades.

Above is a panel from Issue #6. After defeating the bad guy, Robin turned his attention to his inner demons. Robin has just realized he is attracted to Bernard, but is afraid to live into those feelings. A friend of Robin’s stands with him in the shadows. The friend tells Robin (whose expression is a powerful mixture of hope and fear, illustrated by Belen Ortega), “I know what you're going through. I've been through it, too. You're holding too tight to a version of yourself you think you have to fit. Let go. You can figure out what you want along the way.”

You may be wondering: Why all this fuss about a comic book? After all, aren't these just cartoons for kids? While that was certainly comics’ origin story, the reality is much more complicated. Comic books function as our contemporary mythologies. They help us talk about who we are, who we aspire to be, and how we relate to one another. It’s no accident that the superhero resurgence began with Sam Rami’s Spider-Man film, which premiered less than 9 months after 9/11. Superheroes not only help us feel heroic, they shape and reshape who counts as a hero.

So it matters that Superman — the hero of truth, justice, and the American way — is an undocumented immigrant. It’s the reason why, when Marvel thought it would be a good idea to make Captain America a Nazi, it backfired spectacularly.

And it matters that Robin has come out as queer. (Here the medium matters greatly: Tim hasn't come out to anyone in his life except for the guy with whom he’s going on a date. He’s only come out to us, the readers.) Tim is not the first queer member of the Bat-family. Batwoman debuted as a lesbian, and several other supporting characters are queer. But Robin is the most well-known and established Bat-person to come out.

The Batman universe includes four ‘official’ Robins. The original was Dick Grayson, who has gone on to become Nightwing. Then there was Jason Todd, who was murdered by the Joker but is back as the Red Hood. The current Robin is Damian Wayne, Batman’s son.

And then there’s Tim Drake: The third Robin, introduced by writers Marv Wolfman and Pat Broderick in 1989. When the current writers came to Tim Drake, they came to a character who never quite fit in with the other Robins. He wasn’t an orphan like many of the other Batman characters, nor is he related to Bruce. No, Tim started off as a detective. After Jason Todd’s death, Batman became dark and angry. Tim believed that Batman needed a Robin. So he broke into the Batcave, and convinced Batman to take him on.

Understandably, Tim has been plagued by a lack of belonging, a question of who he really is. He’s not fully Robin and certainly not Batman — no longer a sidekick, but also no desire to superhero on his own. Every solo adventure brings him back to Gotham. Every team he joins (like the Teen Titans), he eventually leaves. He lives in the in-between, which is something of a rarity in comic lore. After reading through years of storylines featuring Robin #3, Fitzmartin felt that Tim’s sexuality “was a missing piece in the understanding of this character.”

Mythically, Batman and Robin are the father and son, the man and the boy. Batman — as Bruce Wayne — is the virile playboy, while Robin is the innocent, wide-eyed boy. Binaries have a tendency to crop up in mythologies, both ancient and modern. Think of the creation story where God creates night and day, land and sea, male and female.

Queer theology reminds us, however, that these categories are not binaries, but ends of a spectrum. “Queer resists a biological essentialism of sex, the gender binary, and assume or required heterosexuality,” Keegan Osinski writes in Queering Wesley, Queering the Church. “I use ‘queer’ as a verb to mean engaging in the practice of problematizing normative narratives and assumptions,” or disrupting “those givens that perpetuate the power structures that baptize and uphold some norms while damning and marginalizing alternative ways of being.” In other words, God didn't create the world to experience binaries: Creation includes both night and day and all the hours and minutes that fall in between.

Tim’s unfolding storyline also challenges normative narratives and assumed binaries. He is neither Batman nor Robin. For a long time, that murkiness sidelined him in the comics’ mythos, just as queer Christians have felt — or been told — they have no place in the life of faith. By queering Robin, the writers reminded us that the world is much more complicated than Batman or Robin, gay or straight. (It’s worth noting that, while many outlets have reported that Tim is bisexual, the character himself hasn’t labeled anything.) Issue #6 has staked out a space for Tim within the ‘and’ of ‘Batman and Robin.’ By making room for Tim, the writers shift our modern mythologies away from the ‘either/or’ binaries toward the inclusive ‘both/and.’
 
Comics are gay. Worrying about what genitals you put into your holes is gay. This author? Probably gay.
 
Tim’s unfolding storyline also challenges normative narratives and assumed binaries. He is neither Batman nor Robin. For a long time, that murkiness sidelined him in the comics’ mythos, just as queer Christians have felt — or been told — they have no place in the life of faith.
My religion is Batman, but my sexuality is Batman and Robin.

This is a case of someone too stupid to make an analysis properly making an analysis off of a ratings stunt by a major company. This person needs more English classes and to touch some fucking grass.
 
In establishing Tim Drake as queer in comics canon, the writers employ the mythic power of comics to make space for queer readers, echoing readings of Biblical mythology by queer theologians.
Since when did comics become worth a damn and hold any influence over society like religious or philosophical texts? The only thing keeping your shitty comics industry afloat and making people appreciate your capeshit characters are shitty Hollywood CGIfest films, and that only works for Marvel. And DC animated movies and games barely register among normalfags, so don't try and push that crap as a sign of worth or greater influence.

Hell only Batman and Wonder Woman seem to have continue relevance these days and DC seems to be eager to find some way to make people hate them (although personally Batman has always been overrated as fuck).
 
Queer theology reminds us, however...
What.

I can't even think of a clever joke to make. These people unironicly consider being gay a fucking religion. It sounds like something a person who disliked gay people would say in a derisive manner, to imply these people are so coom brained they treat inhaling as many dicks as possible as if it was a religion.

And it's mentioned in such an off hand way that it assumes the reader either already agrees or would see no issues with it.
 
She told the BBC that she spent “a lot of time and a lot of prayer” making sure Robin’s coming out was respectful and wholesome — no mean feat when the Robin mantle has been the target of countless homophobic jokes over the decades.

Above is a panel from Issue #6. After defeating the bad guy, Robin turned his attention to his inner demons. Robin has just realized he is attracted to Bernard, but is afraid to live into those feelings.
Fujoshi unironically deserve to be bullied off of the internet.
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What.

I can't even think of a clever joke to make. These people unironicly consider being gay a fucking religion. It sounds like something a person who disliked gay people would say in a derisive manner, to imply these people are so coom brained they treat inhaling as many dicks as possible as if it was a religion.

And it's mentioned in such an off hand way that it assumes the reader either already agrees or would see no issues with it.
its a protestant christian thing. like black theology, liberation theology. gays add their own twist to Christianity and then write a lot of articles on the hipster Christian charismatic site.
 
Since when did comics become worth a damn and hold any influence over society like religious or philosophical texts? The only thing keeping your shitty comics industry afloat and making people appreciate your capeshit characters are shitty Hollywood CGIfest films, and that only works for Marvel. And DC animated movies and games barely register among normalfags, so don't try and push that crap as a sign of worth or greater influence.
Because "nerdy" things became popular and consoomerism became the dominant religion. The Marvel movies are akin to religious texts, and so by proxy, the source material the movies come from are as well... But need to be reworked to not be so straight, white, or male. Because now that they control the cultural institutions, they're gonna, metaphorically, recreate the world in their image (gay, fat, and unlikable)
 
>Modern Mythology
Is this nonsense still being peddled? Let's get something straight, comicbook characters are fictional characters. We know this as an outright fact. The reason why mythology exists in the first place is because we don't know where the truth and the fiction of something begins. People keep repeating the tales they know, adding or subtracting some things, and what comes out isn't what was. The idea that somehow we'll look back and think of batmanchild and totally-not-a-mary-sue as people that might have existed is fucking laughable in anything outside an apocalypse scenario.
 
Fujoshi unironically deserve to be bullied off of the internet.
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WTF is with those copy&paste faces? Is everyone in the comic like that or just these two? If you switched hairs I don't think anyone would notice. They both look like they are having strokes too. I love the way Bernard waves like a special needs camper.

This comic isn't for the LGBTXY3's. It's for fujoshi who wanted their ship validated so they can churn out more terrible fanfiction without anyone being mean to them about the canon. This is the only demographic that will really care. And they'll likely just pirate it anyway.

You'd think with decades of gay rumors and fag jokes surrounding all the Robins that making him undeniably straight would be better.
 
"Tim’s unfolding storyline also challenges normative narratives and assumed binaries. He is neither Batman nor Robin. For a long time, that murkiness sidelined him in the comics’ mythos, just as queer Christians have felt — or been told — they have no place in the life of faith. "

Thats because they dont.
I remember telling a relative years ago that being gay is not a sign of moral uprightness or inherently a positive thing. She got mad, lol.

And she probably cant even explain properly WHY she is mad. She just...is. She has been "built" that way.
 
Since when did comics become worth a damn and hold any influence over society like religious or philosophical texts? The only thing keeping your shitty comics industry afloat and making people appreciate your capeshit characters are shitty Hollywood CGIfest films, and that only works for Marvel. And DC animated movies and games barely register among normalfags, so don't try and push that crap as a sign of worth or greater influence.

Hell only Batman and Wonder Woman seem to have continue relevance these days and DC seems to be eager to find some way to make people hate them (although personally Batman has always been overrated as fuck).
DC and Marvel are both trash. Dark Horse still puts out some good comics though free of this sjw pandering bullshit.
 
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