Property Guardian Animals

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Okey, dog autism time.

If you want a living alarm furball, a house terrier or two is good. They eat little, and bark like hell when they sense strangers. Or anything alive. But they often bark at anything during the day, so you need to be okey with a better safe than sorry approach.

They are also too small and aren't adapted to snake and gator land, so do better in EU lands without them. They are also good at rodent control.

But a big mean cat may do better against rodents, and terriers don't tolerate kat kind.

You may also want to get a Puli. Its a tiny black hungarian mop sheepdog. Its entire purpose is to bark for other dogs and bite the stranger's legs. It outyaps any little yappy dog that thinks its a rival too, can go on for 3-4 hours, so not good if you want to have a down low meth lab, I mean bunker innawoods /k/ style.


You may also want to get its two symbiontic breeds.


This is a big dog with dreadlock matted fur for some protection against wolfbites. It is mostly nocturnal and is made to protect your animals at night.


This is your daytime guard dog. Lacks the dreads, but it is a fierce breed. It does not take that much of a maintenance as the others.

Another fierce one is the black Russian dog. This is a huge ass fucker with the head bigger than yours, and can absolutely kill a man if not shot first. I have seen these ones carry logs of tree trunk slices around instead of toy sticks. Don't let it drop the 40 pound "stick" on your foot.


Keep in mind that these breeds aren't really snakeproof, so depending on your location, you may want to be wary about that. The latter three are also huge and thus need more food.

The other special dog types are for hunting or herding specifically, so not applicable here.

But if you want a simple nigger alarm, any small terrier will do that you can keep indoors.

Geese are also a great idea, but they are rowdy so prepared for some friendly fire for them, and they shit toxic sludge.
 
It's genuinely up to preference and what your training ability is. The golden rule though is assume you are half as good and have half the time you think have to train a doggo. Having a Large Guard Dog that was bred to fight wolves and lions maaaaaay not be the best idea in general, unless you are literally trying to raise sheep and cattle in cougar country.

I've often found people who go for these breeds like the idea of having a massive slobber mutt but don't have the first idea how to actually take care of them. Never ends well.

Which is why I personally really love the Spaniel dogs. Very good natured, great with kids and the moment something gets within 100 meters of the house they are barking up a storm. Which is all i really need tbqh. I don't WANT a fur missile. If something has to get mangled, it should be me doing it, not the dog.
 
If you don't need a dedicated guard dog, geese+ 1-2 small yappies for the house will do fine.

An anklebiter isn't much danger, but can wake you up to grab the shotgun if Tyrone is shieeeeting around the house. You can even keep them indoors, and just fence off a small yard for them to do the needful in.

Geese are just fine for farm guarding with a rifle. Their only downside is that they'll try to nip you too if you get cheeky with them. Like try to get their edible eggs.
 
Cirrhosis_of_Liver said:
If you get a livestock guardian dog, know that the beginning two years will be a MASSIVE investment in training. They aren't genetic robots. An untrained or worse poorly trained LGD is effectively just a wolf that will kill both coyotes and your livestock.

Buying an older, trained LGD is an option. It will be more expensive, and dog will have fewer years of service to offer you, but if you're not prepared to train a pup, I think it makes more economic sense.

Littermates can be a pain in the ass, egging each other on to greater heights of mischief.

I love my LGDs. I've lost zero goats to predators since we got them. My wife did all the training with them. Even if I had the time, I'd never have had the patience and skill to turn rambunctious puppies into loyal, intelligent, brave guardians.
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Do you have any particular LGD breeds you would recommend based off personal experience?
 
space man said:
Do you have any particular LGD breeds you would recommend based off personal experience?
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I have experience with Grand Pyrenees and Maremma-GP-Anatolian LGD mutts.

I think it *is* important to use an LGD breed. Hundreds or even thousands of years went into producing dogs that, with training, can be trusted not to see livestock as meals on hooves.

Within purpose-bred LGDs, I think it's more a question of how big a dog you want, and whether their fur type does well with your climate. Our Maremma things are smaller and not so stressed by heat. I think individual personality varies wider than types of breed, but I'm not an expert by any means, just my two cents.
 
Sithis said:
I knew an old lady once who kept peacocks instead of guineas. No one went to her yard because those bastards were ferocious. I've read about some prisons adopting the use of guard geese but geese are unloyal bastards.
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Yeah there was a couple that lived by one of my friends that had some peacocks. They were mean and sounded like babies crying and screaming when they got all riled up. If I ever had to walk home at night from that friends house I’d always avoid that house because I didn’t want my imagination get the better of me.
 
I'm trying to train Jerome to attack intruders but he keeps burying the reward peanuts I give him instead of eating them.

Maybe it's because I just recently started feeding him and he doesn't yet realize that he has a secured avenue to get food yet so he is saving them for later?
 
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Aztec Death Squad said:
Everything I read online kept regurgitating that hounds do not make for good guard dogs. I still might try anyway. They are most beautiful dogs imo.
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Had an Italian greyhound as a kid that ended up being a surprisingly good guard dog. A guy was robbing houses in the neighborhood. This weird looking mini greyhound scared him off. Do not recommend Italian greyhounds as guard dogs. That one was just a fluke. The guy trying to break in was definitely a massive pussy if this scared him.
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Behold. The scariest dog on Earth.
 
Aztec Death Squad said:
Everything I read online kept regurgitating that hounds do not make for good guard dogs. I still might try anyway. They are most beautiful dogs imo.
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If you want a dog to guard your own person with his life, I can't see how you could go wrong with a coon hound. Fuckin. Has nobody read "Where the Red Fern Grows?"

A Grand Pyrenees as a house guard dog would eat your couch but also any burglar.


Guarding livestock? That I do think a good way to get your stock run to death.
 
Meet Jerome, my future guard squirrel. He is enjoying some peanuts from the peanut bar
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If you want a dog to guard your house, socialize that dog to a wide variety of people, places, and things so the dog doesn't fly off the handle over things that aren't threats. A good guard dog doesn't attack everything in sight. Same goes for alarm dogs. A good alarm dog doesn't bark at everything in sight.

Not socializing your guard dog turns the dog into a liability at best and a ticking time bomb at worse. Take the dog to places like dog friendly stores, pet stores, and parks. I don't recommend dog parks due to how chaotic they are. This advice applies to any dog, but is especially important for guardian breeds.
 
Aztec Death Squad said:
Everything I read online kept regurgitating that hounds do not make for good guard dogs. I still might try anyway. They are most beautiful dogs imo.
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Hound dogs aren't going to murder a human breaking into your house. Which is what people are usually looking for in "a guard dog".

What they will do is go absolutely ape shit and let you know someone is breaking into your house. Which to me is what you actually want from a "guard dog".

They will however defend you if you are attacked and will go after dangerous animals. Which is a different kettle of fish. They are very loyal to the pack. Personally I think the fact that their first instinct is to NOT kill the strange human is a selling point rather then a negative.
 
My pool of guard squirrels has doubled. Jerome made a friend
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