Proof that Catholicism is true

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GOD=7_4, 7/4=July 4th or 7 April 30 AD: GOOD(7__4) Friday(74) when Jesus(74=J10+E5+S19+U21+S19) was nailed on(74) the Cross(74=C3+R18+O15+S19+S19).

GOD=7_4 whereas G is the 7th letter. A circle can be 15, zero, or ---, D=4. The ancients observed the '7 Classical Planets': Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn - 4 of these can't be easily seen during the day/4 don't cast shadows on Earth (Venus can). There's 4 lunar phases of roughly 7 days (~7.4 days) each, thus 4 weeks in a 'moonth'. Lunar year + 7 day week + 4 days = solar year. Etc.

The Constitution's 7 Articles were written on 4 pages. George Washington had 74 generals (33 Freemasons) in the Continental Army. Etc.

I WORSHIP @Brad Watson_Miami AND KNOW THAT GOD (7_4) PLAN-IT THEORY IS THE ONE TRUE RELIGION AND YOU SHALL BE BURNED AT THE STAKE FOR THIS HERESY @Jacob Harrison YOU SHALL BE CURSED FOR 1000 YEARS WITH REALLY BAD LUCK
 
Jacob Harrison said:
They are not God's chosen species, so they are not culpable for their actions. All animals go to heaven since they do not have original sin like humans do.
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Incorrect, animals do not have spiritual souls and lack spiritual existence. They do not go to heaven or hell because they cease to be upon death. This is basic Catholic doctrine, and you are wholly ignorant of it.
Jacob Harrison said:
Because the Catholic Church has the most evidence of it being true. It has the most documented miracles, the most eyewitness testimony of apparitions of angels, saints, and the Virgin Mary, and the most eyewitness testimony of visions of heaven, purgatory, and hell.

Also Christianity and Islam are the only religions where non believers get damned to hell, so leaving Christianity is the greatest risk, since there is more evidence proving Christianity than Islam. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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Miracles can be explained as coincidence, delusion, or the work of evil spirits. A religion should be judged on the strength of its logical arguments, and in that case, the teachings of the Buddha are the most worthy faith, as they are based on reason and observation about the world.
The principles of reason also show that your conception of God is unworthy of worship. Let us say there are two men: the first lives a life without harming another living soul. His every breath in life is devoted to benevolence, peace, and the ending of suffering. He does not eat meat, gives all he makes that he does not need to live to the poor, does not drink or swear or do any other thing to abuse his body or others, and has not even had an evil thought pass into his mind. However, he lived in a circumstance where he could have become Catholic and did not, because his one exposure to the faith was an evil and lecherous priest.
The second man is a drunk, a rapist, a thief, and a murderer. Throughout all of his life, he has abused others and himself. He is a vile and debased creature, a stain upon the earth. However, as he lay on his deathbed, he called for a priest, gave confession, and begged God for forgiveness.
According to your own faith and your own words, the first man will be sent to Hell and suffer eternally because he did not submit to the will of the evil priest and become baptized, while the second will go to heaven. It is clear, then, that virtue and vice do not truly matter to your God, only a servile attitude towards Him. You could be the most wicked of men, but so long as you fell to your knees at the end of your life and made a show of devotion, you would be saved. You could be the purest and most noble soul, but if you did not, you would be damned.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
While they are watching you, they are not watching you all the time because they do other things in heaven such as praying and interceding, praising God, talking to the other saints, feasting, and doing some other joyful activities. So it depends on what they are doing at the time that you are masturbating.
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Damn, heaven sounds boring as fuck.

I choose Valhalla. Wenching, fighting, feasting halls...

You know what you get to do in Valhalla? Get this- snowball fights. Snowball fights in hot tubs. You sit in piping water in vast hot tubs full o' wenches in raging blizzards having snowball fights.

That's what I'm talking about.

You can keep your boring ass praying and praising with boring ass saints, I'll be in the hot tub with me wenches thankyouverymuch.

May it please Odin.
 
Senior Lexmechanic said:
Incorrect, animals do not have spiritual souls and lack spiritual existence. They do not go to heaven or hell because they cease to be upon death. This is basic Catholic doctrine, and you are wholly ignorant of it.
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https://www.uscatholic.org/blog/201602/heaven-all-30553
Miracles can be explained as coincidence, delusion, or the work of evil spirits. A religion should be judged on the strength of its logical arguments, and in that case, the teachings of the Buddha are the most worthy faith, as they are based on reason and observation about the world.
The principles of reason also show that your conception of God is unworthy of worship. Let us say there are two men: the first lives a life without harming another living soul. His every breath in life is devoted to benevolence, peace, and the ending of suffering. He does not eat meat, gives all he makes that he does not need to live to the poor, does not drink or swear or do any other thing to abuse his body or others, and has not even had an evil thought pass into his mind. However, he lived in a circumstance where he could have become Catholic and did not, because his one exposure to the faith was an evil and lecherous priest.
The second man is a drunk, a rapist, a thief, and a murderer. Throughout all of his life, he has abused others and himself. He is a vile and debased creature, a stain upon the earth. However, as he lay on his deathbed, he called for a priest, gave confession, and begged God for forgiveness.
According to your own faith and your own words, the first man will be sent to Hell and suffer eternally because he did not submit to the will of the evil priest and become baptized, while the second will go to heaven. It is clear, then, that virtue and vice do not truly matter to your God, only a servile attitude towards Him. You could be the most wicked of men, but so long as you fell to your knees at the end of your life and made a show of devotion, you would be saved. You could be the purest and most noble soul, but if you did not, you would be damned.
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The Catholic Church also bases it's faith on reason and observation. Observing the world makes one conclude that it is intelligently designed by a creator, and reason leads one to conclude that the creator is the Abrahamic God and Catholicism is the religion that worships him correctly.

And no one ever goes through life without committing sin. Even the most righteous have occasional evil thoughts. The difference is that the wicked person apologized and atoned for his sinful deeds by confessing them before death, and the righteous non Christian did not.
 
Jacob Harrison said:
https://www.uscatholic.org/blog/201602/heaven-all-30553

The Catholic Church also bases it's faith on reason and observation. Observing the world makes one conclude that it is intelligently designed by a creator, and reason leads one to conclude that the creator is the Abrahamic God and Catholicism is the religion that worships him correctly.

And no one ever goes through life without committing sin. Even the most righteous have occasional evil thoughts. The difference is that the wicked person apologized and atoned for his sinful deeds by confessing them before death, and the righteous non Christian did not.
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You know who else claims to base his faith on observation and reason?

This guy.
 
MediocreMilt said:
Because whoever was in charge of Silvuna wanted to be Catholic again, so when he heard a story, he ran with it and ordered it to be written as official history, and got away with it due to poor literacy rates in that century.

Also ergot poisoning.
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Jacob Harrison said:
If that were the case, then there would be a record of
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What? Why would illiteracy imply better records?
 
Jacob Harrison said:
https://www.uscatholic.org/blog/201602/heaven-all-30553
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You contradict yourself. You claim that the current Catholic church has been corrupted by Freemasons who created Vatican II, and then use a man who's theology is the epitome of Vatican II to justify your false positions. In addition, the Pope is fallible unless speaking ex cathedra by your doctrine, and encyclicals are not ex cathedra.

The Catholic Church also bases it's faith on reason and observation. Observing the world makes one conclude that it is intelligently designed by a creator, and reason leads one to conclude that the creator is the Abrahamic God and Catholicism is the religion that worships him correctly.
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It is easy to proclaim this. You cannot show this. I look at the world and I see that it is full of impure things, and that these impure things are not just the result of actions, but are part of the world to begin with. If your God intelligently designed the world, he designed it to have wasting illness, body-wracking parasites, and cancer. These things are not evil in themselves, in the same way that the wildfire that destroys a village is not evil. But to willfully create these things, which exist only to cause suffering, pain, and death, would be evil. If your God is just and loving, why did he will such things into being?
Show me the argument, in your own words, that Jehovah made the world and Catholics are the most pleasing to him. Then show me why I should want to please him. Threats of damnation are not a valid reason, and citing miracles is not an argument. The Buddhist faith does not need threats to recruit; all it says is 'this is how the world is, this is why suffering happens, if you follow the vehicles, you can quell suffering'. It does not need a supernal bully pulpit to threaten people into line.

And no one ever goes through life without committing sin. Even the most righteous have occasional evil thoughts. The difference is that the wicked person apologized and atoned for his sinful deeds by confessing them before death, and the righteous non Christian did not.
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So righteous is your God, that even the most atomic of impurities deserves infinite and transcendent punishment! Who could meet such a standard? And such forgiveness does he have, that even the most abominable of crimes might be forgiven with nothing more than empty words at life's end! Once again, you have not proven that what pleases your God is leading a life of virtue, instead of groveling subservience. Your own words paint your God as a sadistic and universal tyrant, more worthy of being reviled than loved.
 
I don't know what offends me more. The thread itself, or the terrible theology.

Please OP. At least read a Theology book if you want to preach to the heathen. Some of my more conservative Catholic and Orthodox teachers would be frothing at the mouth at this heresy.

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Senior Lexmechanic said:
You contradict yourself. You claim that the current Catholic church has been corrupted by Freemasons who created Vatican II, and then use a man who's theology is the epitome of Vatican II to justify your false positions. In addition, the Pope is fallible unless speaking ex cathedra by your doctrine, and encyclicals are not ex cathedra.
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True, but it shows that it is a debated subject. I believe that animals go to heaven because I may have seen the ghost of my dead cat out of the corner of my eye indicating that he came from heaven to visit.
It is easy to proclaim this. You cannot show this. I look at the world and I see that it is full of impure things, and that these impure things are not just the result of actions, but are part of the world to begin with. If your God intelligently designed the world, he designed it to have wasting illness, body-wracking parasites, and cancer. These things are not evil in themselves, in the same way that the wildfire that destroys a village is not evil. But to willfully create these things, which exist only to cause suffering, pain, and death, would be evil. If your God is just and loving, why did he will such things into being?
Show me the argument, in your own words, that Jehovah made the world and Catholics are the most pleasing to him. Then show me why I should want to please him. Threats of damnation are not a valid reason, and citing miracles is not an argument. The Buddhist faith does not need threats to recruit; all it says is 'this is how the world is, this is why suffering happens, if you follow the vehicles, you can quell suffering'. It does not need a supernal bully pulpit to threaten people into line.
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Humans would have been prevented from experiencing those things and would have been immortal but humanity has been cursed because of Adam and Eve bringing sin into the world. But these things will end after Satan is defeated and God creates a new heaven and new Earth.

The argument is too long for me to post in my own words but here it is. http://www.clairval.com/lettres/en/textes/preuves_en.htm

We owe God our worship and obedience because he is our creator.
So righteous is your God, that even the most atomic of impurities deserves infinite and transcendent punishment! Who could meet such a standard? And such forgiveness does he have, that even the most abominable of crimes might be forgiven with nothing more than empty words at life's end! Once again, you have not proven that what pleases your God is leading a life of virtue, instead of groveling subservience. Your own words paint your God as a sadistic and universal tyrant, more worthy of being reviled than loved.
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As I said, sin is a crime against an infinite being which makes it an infinite crime. God wants us to live a life of virtue as shown by the fact that the most righteous enter heaven immediately after death while the other righteous have to go through purgatory first. The most abominable sinners who repent before death spend the most time in purgatory and the time is reduced only by prayers for them.

Fagatron said:
I don't know what offends me more. The thread itself, or the terrible theology.

Please OP. At least read a Theology book if you want to preach to the heathen. Some of my more conservative Catholic teachers would be frothing at the mouth at this heresy.

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How am I promoting heresy?
 
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