ProjectMoon Megathread - Lobotomy Corporation, Library of Ruina, Limbus Company, etc.

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Small heads up if you've gotten Wild Hunt Heathcliff, he has 2 seperate uptie stories for pre and post Canto 6 completion and both give 40 lunacy, you can find them both in the theaters identity archive, in the grand sceme of things its not much but with the next Walpurgisnacht on the horizon any bonus lunacy's a plus
 
Tibbs said:
Small heads up if you've gotten Wild Hunt Heathcliff, he has 2 seperate uptie stories for pre and post Canto 6 completion and both give 40 lunacy, you can find them both in the theaters identity archive, in the grand sceme of things its not much but with the next Walpurgisnacht on the horizon any bonus lunacy's a plus
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Wild Hunt Heathcliff also has a unique passive and interaction with each Wuthering Heights character and the Erlking, hos uptie story also indicates his Catherine is still alive and unlike the Erlking he's going on his rampage to earn her affection. Also I like how he's fond of Ryoshu, she seemed to have been a better cargiver to him than Nelly was to our Heathcliff.

Also he coffin jousts with the Erlking.
 
Sulla said:
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Rodion, Meursalt, sinclair, ishmael all have good heals
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Unless I'm missing something it's all pure HP heals for 2/3 characters. While Faust heals everyone for both HP and SP. Theoretically as levels go up, non percentage healing gets worse but Faust healing is still good for a top off.
Also at least when I play I find Sloth and Gluttony to be the rarer sins to accumulate.
 
Lizard Machine Bugs said:
Also I like how he's fond of Ryoshu, she seemed to have been a better cargiver to him than Nelly was to our Heathcliff.
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Nelly was a competent caretaker to LC Heathcliff. She was distrought when she saw that in most realities she was made misserable while stuck between Heathcliff and Catherine. If she hadn't seen those, then she wouldn't have betrayed them both. I believe that most of her feelings and actions towards them were genuine. I also like how the Heathcliffs have a soft spot for the Nellies, since I remember Heathcliff spared Nelly some suffering because of that soft spot for his old caretaker in the book.
 
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Finally got time to get some time in with Wild Hunt, and I wasn't blown away at first but now I'm all in on him.
His speed is great and with how his counter works you get a bit more control in human fights being able to apply it on guarding enemies and have it carry over to the next enemies coin so you aren't just eating hits. Using his counter also doesn't proc bleed when clashing or dealing damage. He does feel a little squishy but you can ignore staggers for the most part with timing your switches into Dullahan mode which negates stagger, going out of it doesn't ignore stagger though from what I noticed.
This is all mostly in reference to an MDH solo run I did with him, did a MDN with a sinking team first and didn't get a good idea of him from there.

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The new animations feel really nice. They're subtle, but now it feels like an all-out fight with your sinners dodging and blocking during clashes.

Also, Wild Hunt can 100% PK sinners who target him for attacks. Absolutely amazing when I saw him delete RCorp Ish. I got like 6 coffins from the whole thing too, then triggered his passive.
Never thought that I would trigger his passive via him PK'ing though.
 
Post Cathy, I like to think the Heath vs Edgar feud is about whether maids should be put in frilly clothing or suits.
HiveDull said:
The new animations feel really nice. They're subtle, but now it feels like an all-out fight with your sinners dodging and blocking during clashes.
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I knew there was something unique about the fights, it makes them more visually interesting.
 
HiveDull said:
Also, Wild Hunt can 100% PK sinners who target him for attacks. Absolutely amazing when I saw him delete RCorp Ish. I got like 6 coffins from the whole thing too, then triggered his passive.
Never thought that I would trigger his passive via him PK'ing though.
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I saw a video where someone got him and BL Meursault to clash using the mechanics of the Spicebrush fight, they both ended up staggering each other and dying to the boss.

Finger Pistols said:
Nelly was a competent caretaker to LC Heathcliff. She was distrought when she saw that in most realities she was made misserable while stuck between Heathcliff and Catherine. If she hadn't seen those, then she wouldn't have betrayed them both. I believe that most of her feelings and actions towards them were genuine. I also like how the Heathcliffs have a soft spot for the Nellies, since I remember Heathcliff spared Nelly some suffering because of that soft spot for his old caretaker in the book.
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I think that's one of the differences between out Nelly and Ryoshu Nelly, our Nelly and most of them we're probably just competent, but I think Ryoshu really excelled at her job espically with how the narration notes that she feels betrayed by Wild Hunt Heathcliff and how WH Heathcliff's reaction to Nelly is Affection and Hatred, while our Heathcliff doesn't get a unique passive for Nelly.
There might also be a bigger age gap in between Ryoshu and Heathcliff, Nelly was probably 20~ in her flashback since that's the youngest you can be a fixer and she's not mentioned to be in training, and it's been a decade plus since then making her in her 30s, and just personally I think Ryoshu is older than being in her 30s.
 
There's also that Ryoshu's counterpart Yoshide in the original Hell Screen killed himself after accidentally commissioning his daughter getting burned alive in order to finish the titular hell screen, and everyone assumes that the reason Ryoshu is like this is due to something unpleasant having happened to a kid of hers. Nelly Ryoshu is by far the most stable Ryoshu ID we've seen, so it's possible that the role of her kid in that timeline was just taken by Cathy and Heathcliff, and since they didn't die or get used for some wing experiment she never went off the deep end.

There's also a little easter egg when bringing Nelly Ryoshu to the Nelly fight.
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Lizard Machine Bugs said:
while our Heathcliff doesn't get a unique passive for Nelly.
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I don't think that this is any indication that LC Heath didn't have any affection for Nelly. While Project Moon is very proficient in using mechanics on their games for storytelling, I think that the story, as it is written and voice acted, already indicates how Heath was hurt very badly by Nelly's betrayal but still had an affection towards her. Mostly because she was the one of the few sources of happiness at the Heights, other than Catherine. I also want to point out that Nelly seemed partially disgusted, sad and ashamed of her actions. But she still went through with them in a selfish desire to break out of the cycle of perpetual misery that everyone at the Heights across multiple mirror worlds is subjected to. Indicating her conflicted feelings on Heath and Cathy.
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Post Cathy, I like to think the Heath vs Edgar feud is about whether maids should be put in frilly clothing or suits.
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It's not much of a feud, the choice is blatantly obvious. Suits are by far the superior choice for maids. :smug: In my subjective opinion.
By the way, I noticed something while clicking through WH Heathcliff's dialogues. It involves spoilers for the Warp train intervalo, so I will elaborate on it inside a spoiler tag.
Both WH Heathcliffs, pre and post Clear All Cathy mention a promised timepiece.
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The promised timepiece is Dante, as mentioned by gremlin mode Don Quixote on the Warp intervalo. The way he mentions Catherine in relation to the timepiece is interesting, since most of the dialogue from WH Heath pre Clear All Cathy alludes to his Catherine being dead. What I am getting from this is that Dante should be able to somehow grant them their wish of being together, either alive or dead. My predictions on this is that it either refers to how Dante will bring all the stories from the books to their natural conclusions. Or, since Don also referred to him as a promised time piece and spoke of an incoming hour, I predict that Dante will finally awaken to some vestiges of his memories and more Durante powers on the next Canto.
 
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Finger Pistols said:
I don't think that this is any indication that LC Heath didn't have any affection for Nelly. While Project Moon is very proficient in using mechanics on their games for storytelling, I think that the story, as it is written and voice acted, already indicates how Heath was hurt very badly by Nelly's betrayal but still had an affection towards her. Mostly because she was the one of the few sources of happiness at the Heights, other than Catherine. I also want to point out that Nelly seemed partially disgusted, sad and ashamed of her actions. But she still went through with them in a selfish desire to break out of the cycle of perpetual misery that everyone at the Heights across multiple mirror worlds is subjected to. Indicating her conflicted feelings on Heath and Cathy.
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I don't mean to say our Heathclidd doesn't have any affection for her, I just think Wild Hunt Heathcliff has more affection for Nellyshu than our Heathcliff does for his Nelly. Of course Heathcliff care about Nelly and she probably cared about him to an extent in the past as well.
 
Lizard Machine Bugs said:
I don't mean to say our Heathclidd doesn't have any affection for her, I just think Wild Hunt Heathcliff has more affection for Nellyshu than our Heathcliff does for his Nelly. Of course Heathcliff care about Nelly and she probably cared about him to an extent in the past as well.
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IMO WW Heathcliff and our have the same amount of affection to their Nelly. But the difference lies in the LC Heathcliff accepted that the whole situation was fuck up (that's why he spared her) and WW's just cared about revenge ( and didn't know about the mirror worlds at the time).
 
Finger Pistols said:
Hod is alright, but Gebura is peak.
Btw, I am betting all my money on the Solemn Lament ID using sinking/rupture.
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Gebura Schmeru I want a Tipheret Duo where the retarded one keeps rooting for the wrong side and real Tiph is having a meltdown in the background, only popping in to yell at the sinners for corroding.
 
I find it really funny that El Director has accidentally gacha scammed hundreds of users that got Chef Greg (one of the worst IDs) when trying to pull for Ishmael :story: This is a certified Project Moon moment.
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