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There is still shortage of actually decent programmers.
Job seeking situation is dire because of massive over hiring during pandemics. So you compete with a lot of people who were laid off recently.
The biggest impact AI will have on industry in nearest feature is amount of unmaintainable slop that it will produce,

IMHO, because of shortsightedness of leadership in tech, there will be massive vacuum for programmers again in few years. Juniors who use AI don't learn shit. The ones that want to learn often don't get hired or don't keep jobs because juniors who abuse AI look better on paper. So we are losing junior -> regular progression.
I see it all the time, that people who push for AI are rewarded and loved by management, even though they often lack actual skill.

So unless AI starts to deliver on its promise of natural language programming, which I don't believe it will, we gonna end up in a very very weird place.
 
ADHD Mate said:
There is still shortage of actually decent programmers.
Job seeking situation is dire because of massive over hiring during pandemics. So you compete with a lot of people who were laid off recently.
The biggest impact AI will have on industry in nearest feature is amount of unmaintainable slop that it will produce,
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That's the reason why I am interested at all in the "42" school system. At least that could give me a foot in the door.

I fucking hate my life.
 
ADHD Mate said:
There is still shortage of actually decent programmers.
Job seeking situation is dire because of massive over hiring during pandemics. So you compete with a lot of people who were laid off recently.
The biggest impact AI will have on industry in nearest feature is amount of unmaintainable slop that it will produce,

IMHO, because of shortsightedness of leadership in tech, there will be massive vacuum for programmers again in few years. Juniors who use AI don't learn shit. The ones that want to learn often don't get hired or don't keep jobs because juniors who abuse AI look better on paper. So we are losing junior -> regular progression.
I see it all the time, that people who push for AI are rewarded and loved by management, even though they often lack actual skill.

So unless AI starts to deliver on its promise of natural language programming, which I don't believe it will, we gonna end up in a very very weird place.
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I am trying to be optimistic about this as well. There is so much demoralization and doomerism going on everywhere that it is difficult to keep one's head above water, especially in places brimming with jeets & shills. Research jobs also have this issue of sloppification due to both academic and corporate researchers using it more and more while checking sources & information less and less. I'm curious, what tech domain do you think is most or least affected by the current state of affairs? SWE? Cybersecurity? DevOps? Systems administration?
 
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Ferryman said:
I am trying to be optimistic about this as well. There is so much demoralization and doomerism going on everywhere that it is difficult to keep one's head above water, especially places brimming with jeets & shills. Research jobs also have this issue of sloppification due to both academic and corporate using it more and more while checking sources & information less and less. I'm curious, what tech domain do you think is most or least affected by the current state of affairs? SWE? Cybersecurity? DevOps? Systems administration?
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Hard to tell. I think embedded/systems programming is probably the least affected as it's the most sensitive to code correctness.
Cybersecurity might get boost from all that new unsafe code needing proper audits.
Other than that I think it's more of a gamble based on team/management.
 
Anyone have any experience with slint + rust? map libre would be a bonus. haven't worked with slint or map libre or vector tile mapping before but im doing as project mapping stuff. I got geojson correlating in the backend in a neo4j db, so I don't know how hard now it will be to build another map. WebGL with lumagl wasnt bad outside of having to use react and typescript.
 
ADHD Mate said:
Hard to tell. I think embedded/systems programming is probably the least affected as it's the most sensitive to code correctness.
Cybersecurity might get boost from all that new unsafe code needing proper audits.
Other than that I think it's more of a gamble based on team/management.
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There is decent work where 10% of the work is actually writing the damn code and 90% is making sure it works 100-(1E-12)% of the time.

If AI replaces coding there, you still have to have humans (specifically ones who both understand the code and you can put in jail) review and test the code at multiple levels.

Think of fields where failures are completely unacceptable, you might have a good time there if you don't mind your projects literally worshipping the process.
The trouble is, you're not going to be working in your fun languages like Python, Perl, Ruby, C#. You're going to have to learn C and COBOL.
 
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