Posadists - It isn't true Communism until it creates a nuclear winter

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https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Posadism

‘Nuclear war equals revolutionary war. It will damage humanity but it will not – it cannot – destroy the level of consciousness reached by it. Humanity will quickly pass through nuclear war into a new human society.....after the destruction commences the masses are going to emerge in all countries – in a short time, in a few hours.
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Other bizarre beliefs held by the Posadists included a fervor for water birthing and the belief that humans will ultimately reproduce asexually ‘like amoeba’, curing ‘miserable, abominable sexual excitement’.
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they want to get rid of all sex
 
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http://blogs.lainformacion.com/strambotic/2009/06/29/hacia-un-socialismo-interplanetario/
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Socialism may have fallen in Europe, the continent that gave birth to it, but its ultimate vocation is to transcend the International and tend towards the Interplanetary . Lenin himself sent a message to space friends in an interview with HG Wells in 1920: "If we succeeded in establishing interplanetary communications, all our philosophical, moral, and social concepts would have to be revised. In such a case, technical potential, recognizing no more limits, would impose the end of the rule of violence as a means and method of progress, "according to UFO scholar Alejandro Agostinelli in an article in the Argentine newspaper Page 12 .

Among the organizations that aim to extend socialism to the whole universe is the Partido Operador Revolucionario (Trotskista-Posadista) , which has at the moment achieved a first step, not humble but important: to make socialism rule in Uruguay. In the Fourth International Posadista promoted in 1962 by Juan Posadas, it was concluded that the "UFOs come from a socialist future or from a distant socialist planet", reflecting its obvious technological superiority for having visited us. Posadas saw with hope the outbreak of nuclear war, as it would foster the emergence of a clean intergalactic communism from its roots.

If the Troskistas-posadistas have ended up denying their universalist aspiration (on the website of the Spanish / Catalan chapter there are even no references to flying dishes), the Italians of Men in Red - Radical Ufology Choir - continue to trust that the revolution will be radiotelegrated to the last corner of the galaxy: "We believe that there are extraterrestrial life forms and that we can establish political relations with them to fight capital together", respond in their page of Q & A.

The third group to which the writer quotes is the Peruvian Alpha and Omega , closer to Ufocristianism (with forgiveness) than to any socialistodeanness. For this cult, Jesus Christ was an alien who wrote the "ten thousand Divine scrolls or Telepathic Plans that constitute the last hope for the salvation of Humanity."
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Techpriest said:
While Cosmos' thread on Communists seems to be taking a 'let's whack an entire ideology with a stick' approach, I believe that when it comes to such a fractured and crazily varied sort of mess that is communism in general, certain splinter groups should be put under a microscope and mocked. This my friends, is where the magical insanity that is Posadism truly comes into its own. A boring scholar would simply say that Posadism is an offshoot of the Trotskyism branch of Marxist-Leninist thought of the Communist ideology, and leave it at that as it has enjoyed very little success. In terms of lolcowdom though, these guys are I think almost the champions when it comes to their ideology.

Let's start with the basics as given by wikipedia. Posadism was founded in 1962 by J. Posadas, a pseudonym used by Homero Rómulo Cristalli Frasnelli, an Argentinian Trotskyite, and has its roots in the Fourth International. Posadas and his followers had a major disagreement with the prevailing views of the rest of the Fourth International, regarding primarily nuclear war and if it would be necessary to ensure the victory of the proletariat over the capitalist oppressors. Posadas believed that the answer was 100% yes. When everyone else told him he was exceptional, he picked up his ball and went home, forming another Forth International. Posadism would become the dominant form of thought in the communist world - nah I'm kidding, it mainly was restricted to Latin America, though his writings were published in english and I think Italian.

The Crazy Train though really starts when the Cuban Revolution begins. Posadas was at the time a rather influential thinker among Latin American Trotskyites, and a whole bunch of Posadists joined in on the fun in Cuba, helping Castro overthrow the Batista government with real enthusiasm. So much enthusiasm that they then instantly started to say that Castro wasn't going far enough, and even tried to assemble a group of Cuban soldiers to storm Guantanamo Bay in order to liberate the island fully (though also probably in the hope that this would start a nuclear war - because this happened after the missile crisis) which resulted in Castro forcibly removing them from the country. Posadas immediately claimed that Castro also had Che killed (despite him being both still alive at the time and in Bolivia) and then changed that to claiming Castro had Che prisoner and that all good revolutionaries should rise against Castro to free him (despite Che at this point in time having been dead for over a year) which went nowhere. This is the more sane part of Posadas' antics by the way.

Until his death in '81, Posadas continued to write and publish papers on communist thought and all that other malarkey they like to do, but things got weird fast. And I do mean weird. First, he started to claim that the USSR was making research into talking with dolphins (which was true) and that all dolphins are socialist life forms (probably not true) eager to learn communism (certainly not true) and become our marine comrades (hilariously untrue). Then he claimed that all aliens are socialists, because obviously any being advanced enough to travel between stars has advanced beyond imperialism and capitalism and embraced his particular brand of Marxism. He followed this up by saying that UFO's were thus these 'Space Comrades' watching us and waiting for our nuclear war to erupt at which point they would contact us and we would join them in the glory of interstellar communism.

Posadism lost a lot of it's influence shortly after, with other communists in Latin America mocking them and purposefully excluding them from meetings. Later writings included theories on water birth, human-nature harmony, and that if the aliens do invade, we should welcome them as liberators of the working class. Posadists to this day claim that this is all a smear fabrication (except the nuclear war part). Posadists also ran for election in Uruguay somewhat recently, receiving only 0.1% of the vote. Wikipedia estimates though, the actual membership of the Fourth International (Posadist) is probably around 100 at the most. They also still publish papers, interestingly enough, and give interviews.

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Do any of you know of NAZPOSADIST GANG?

Vruna/Movimiento Veganista. They're fascists who follow the guy in the middle with the Hitler mustache (Pablo Santa Cruz). They believe aliens are attacking, they're loudly vegan, and they have branches in Bolivia, Chile, and some other South American countries.

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South America is a hotbed of Ayy LMAO because of pre-Columbian ancient ruins. You know that a conquest is so complete that people honestly think that ancient shit is the work of Aliens or Gods.
 
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