Porn Ban Debate Thread

[NuIItley]

assuming you watch porn i'd put money on you being a closeted homo tbh

Another interesting detail, ever since children gained widespread access to the Internet en masse, we now have constantly to worry about pornography and pornographic material infiltrating their active spaces/communities (I think the most well known example of this is Roblox). EPI is very much real and unfortunately it's a common issue that's been getting worse and worse as the years go by instead of better. Along with this there's been a number of potential theories that discuss the possibilities of pornography changing someone's sexuality - like, for example, a man that was previously thought to be heterosexual now displaying homosexuality after prolonged porn addiction.
I do think it's a real phenomena, porn essentially rewires your brain by manipulating your dopamine receptors, so it wouldn't be very surprising that something as intricately complex as someone's sexuality is also adapted/refitted to fit with said rewiring.

 

[Storytime]

Another interesting detail, ever since children gained widespread access to the Internet en masse, we now have constantly to worry about pornography and pornographic material infiltrating their active spaces/communities (I think the most well known example is Roblox). EPI is very much real and unfortunately it's a common issue that's been getting worse and worse as the years go by instead of better. Along with this there's been a number of potential theories that have been discussed about the possibilities of pornography changing someone's sexuality - like, for example, a man that was previously thought to be heterosexual now displaying homosexuality after prolonged porn addiction. I do think it's a real phenomena, porn essentially rewires your brain by manipulating your dopamine receptors, so it wouldn't be very surprising that something as intricately complex as someone's sexuality is also adapted/refitted to fit with said rewiring.

it is so fucking real dude you have no fucking idea how many male friends i had who trooned out or became faggy and all of a sudden they displayed their gay ass fetishes ALL BECAUSE OF FUCKING PORN like i don't want to be friends with anyone who masturbates anymore

 

[Preacher ✝]

Porn is a great evil and I think banning it would be a good thing.

However I acknowledge that any governing body that has the means to prevent people from consuming pornography will likely abuse that power for further censorship.

But I do not think that means we should just sit back and do nothing either. There are effective ways for the state to combat pornography without infringing on the rights of citizens.

They could outlaw the commercial production and distribution of pornography for example. This is akin to banning the production of sale of drugs, targeting the supply instead of the demand.

 

[Endless Torment]

I cannot believe there isn't already some unholy abortion of a thread already made to discuss this.

There are multiple threads about porn across the site and there was already threads about it in mass debates as well.

 

[Urban Paradise]

how are you even going to do a campaign like cigarettes but for porn

I'm not planning on doing anything. I'm just here to give my two cents

when the effects are mostly mental?

They're also sociological and psychological - your point?

are you gonna put a fat ugly troon on the side as a warning? that'll go down well

You know this is a great idea. I'm gonna steal it.

 

[Storytime]

I'm not planning on doing anything. I'm just here to give my two cents

ok nigga i think you know what i meant

They're also sociological and psychological - your point?

still immaterial

 

[FatMebius]

I disagree with banning porn. I always hate to use the slippery slope argument, but I feel that a ban on porn would just lead to some puritanical obscenity laws. Especially depending on whatever committee or whatever is deciding on what is or isn't pornographic.

Better education on the effects that pornography can have on a person, especially a child or a teen, is better. Saying "it's bad" isn't an answer. Kids need to know it's as addicting and as damaging as drugs are in some ways.

More regulations in the porn industry would be nice too. I think as an industry, pornographers are gross. Lots of drugs and disease and women get trafficked and abused all the time. Let alone how illicit and illegal material always seems to find a way onto sites like Porn Hub.

 

[NuIItley]

They could outlaw the commercial production and distribution of pornography for example.

I can see that you have good intentions with this proposal, but ultimately I think this would do more (general) harm than good. Look at the amount of unnecessary turmoil that occurred after the US passed Prohibition back in the 1920's - sure, they managed to completely stop the (legal) production of alcohol during the decade or so that the 18th Amendment was active, but look at how much unnecessary crime it produced. Al Capone and the Chicago Outfit would've never achieved countrywide recognition for their crimes if it were not for the illegalization of alcohol (this is another important detail, just because you ban a product, it doesn't mean that the consumers of said product are immediately going to stop wanting to consume it. People will go to extraordinary measures to get what they want.)
And it's not like it had much effect on American society at that time as well. A lot of people still drank regularly, speakeasies popped up in nearly every major city, etc etc. You get my point. These types of measures nearly always result in more harm being done than good. Granted, I doubt that the resulting fallout would be as severe as Prohibition's with something like pornography, which can easily be distributed digitally, something that is far harder to regulate for the US government, but I doubt a measure like that would get passed without any turmoil on certain citizens' end.

 

[Elite Kipchak]

i feel like if you got rid of a certain group of people, the problem would solve itself within a generation at most.

and i'm all for free speech but I think retarded and draconian obscenity laws would be a lesser evil than porn. the internet was a mistake overall, this wasn't as much of an issue when porn was so much more difficult to access

 

[Storytime]

i feel like if you got rid of a certain group of people, the problem would solve itself within a generation at most.

and i'm all for free speech but I think retarded and draconian obscenity laws would be a lesser evil than porn. the internet was a mistake overall, this wasn't as much of an issue when porn was so much more difficult to access

what group of people

 

[Endless Torment]

I do like the extreme anti-porn sentiment on this site, but people also flipped out about the new anti-revenge porn laws because it will hurt Kiwifarms because Kiwifarms does host revenge porn.

 

[NuIItley]

what group of people

He's probably talking about Jews, specifically the more Westernized secular ones. They have (and have had, for an extremely long amount of time at this point, easily more than 5 decades) a very clear, and very large dominance (as in, very significant positions in relatively well-known porn companies) in the porn industry.

the internet was a mistake overall

I'm sorry but this is an extremely retarded statement. For as many frankly disturbing flaws the Internet has, it has also managed to connect the entire world together in a way no other form of communication could, and that is easily one of its most significant accomplishments.

 

[Endless Torment]

He's probably talking about Jews, specifically the more Westernized secular ones. They have (and have had, for an extremely long amount of time at this point, easily m

You could kill every Jew and it wouldn't do anything because you no longer need anything more than consumer grade cameras and access to the Internet to sell porn now. The era of porn studios is over and self made porn is now the main industry, but let's not forget that patreon and similar sites are also used by people that make pornographic art and video games.

 

[NuIItley]

self made porn is now the main industry

Exactly this, but I think it's important to note that said self-made porn producers are, again, like you mentioned, often reliant on larger, more centralized sites like OnlyFans.

 

[Urban Paradise]

ok nigga i think you know what i meant

Fine - here is how you would pull it off. It's easy because a) all the research on the negative effects is already available (compile it into a single source), b) plenty of states have passed laws requiring ID to access porn sites and, c) public opinion has shifted against porn consumption and the porn industry as a whole. It isn't too crazy to think that porn could be considered a public health risk soon. There a good chance that people with money and influence feel the same way about porn the way you do.

 

[Preacher ✝]

I can see that you have good intentions with this proposal, but ultimately I think this would do more (general) harm than good. Look at the amount of unnecessary turmoil that occurred after the US passed Prohibition back in the 1920's - sure, they managed to completely stop the (legal) production of alcohol during the decade or so that the 18th Amendment was active, but look at how much unnecessary crime it produced. Al Capone and the Chicago Outfit would've never achieved countrywide recognition for their crimes if it were not for the illegalization of alcohol (this is another important detail, just because you ban a product, it doesn't mean that the consumers of said product are immediately going to stop wanting to consume it. People will go to extraordinary measures to get what they want.)
And it's not like it had much effect on American society at that time as well. A lot of people still drank regularly, speakeasies popped up in nearly every major city, etc etc. You get my point. These types of measures nearly always result in more harm being done than good. Granted, I doubt that the resulting fallout would be as severe as Prohibition's with something like pornography, which can easily be distributed digitally, something that is far harder to regulate for the US government, but I doubt a measure like that would get passed without any turmoil on certain citizens' end.

There has to be a reasonable middle ground between "do nothing and let porn flow freely" and "crack down on it so hard you harm the citizens who are themselves victims of porn and porn addiction"

 

[beautiful person]

I share this stance:

 

[Gravekeeper's Vassal]

It's an evil Jewish industry with a horrible history and is a net negative to society, that I'd be happy to see gone.

The problem with effectively eliminating porn completely from the internet (if possible) would take such huge government intervention, that it would be a massive money sink and set a dangerous precedent for other censorship endeavors, that I wouldn't enjoy.

So, I'm probably for increase regulation, but that would have to depend on what it would be.

 

[Grub]

I don't really see the feasibility in banning something that can be created with a naked person and a camera.

 

[Preacher ✝]

So, I'm probably for increase regulation, but that would have to depend on what it would be.

The most effective means would be to take the money out of it. Make it illegal to profit off of pornography and you'll see the commercial production and distribution collapse. I see no downside to doing this since it cannot target the consumer.