EU Pope Francis is dead - GOOD. FUCKING. RIDDANCE.

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Francis became pope in 2013. In recent years, the 88-year-old was forced to cancel some events, sometimes at the last minute, because of his health.

Pope Francis has died at the age of 88, the Vatican has announced.
The pontiff, who was Bishop of Rome and head of the Catholic Church, became pope in 2013 after his predecessor Benedict XVI resigned.
In recent years, his papacy had been marked by several hospital visits and concerns about his health.
On 14 February, the Pope was admitted to hospital for bronchitis treatment.
In the days that followed, the Vatican said he had been diagnosed with bilateral pneumonia and that he had blood transfusions after tests revealed he had low levels of platelets in his blood, which is associated with anaemia.
On 22 February, it said the Pope was in a critical condition after a "prolonged respiratory crisis" that required a high flow of oxygen, and the next day the Vatican said Francis was showing an "initial, mild" kidney failure.
In the following days, thousands of faithful gathered in St Peter's Square to pray for his recovery, as others went to the Rome hospital where he was staying to leave flowers and cards.
He remained in hospital for the rest of the month, with doctors saying that his condition remained "complex".
On 6 March, his voice was heard for the first time since being admitted to hospital in an audio message, in which he thanked well-wishers, before adding: "I am with you from here."
On Sunday, he greeted crowds at the Easter Sunday Service.
His 38-day hospital stay ended on 23 March when he made his first public appearance in five weeks on a balcony at Gemelli where he smiled and gave a thumbs up to the crowds gathered outside.
He returned to the Vatican, making a surprise stop at his favourite basilica on the way home, before beginning two months of prescribed rest and recovery.
Doctors said Francis would have access to supplemental oxygen and 24-hour medical care as needed - adding that while the pneumonia infection had been successfully treated, the pontiff would continue to take oral medication for quite some time to treat the fungal infection in his lungs and continue his respiratory and physical physiotherapy.

'People's Pope'
Born in 1936, Francis was the first pope from South America. His papacy was marked by his championing of those escaping war and hunger, as well as those in poverty, earning him the moniker the "People's Pope".
In 2016, he washed the feet of refugees from different religions at an asylum centre outside Rome in a "gesture of humility and service".
He also made his views known on a wide range of issues, from climate change to wealth inequality and the role of women in the Catholic Church.
His acceptance of the LGBTQ community was unprecedented - beginning with an unexpected remark to reporters on a flight back from Brazil about gay clergy.
He said: "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge them?"
However, in April 2024 he appeared to reiterate the Vatican's staunch opposition to gender reassignment, surrogacy, abortion and euthanasia, by signing the text "Dignitas Infinita" (Infinite Dignity).
In the same year, his own liberal credentials were questioned after reports he used a homophobic slur behind closed doors.
Pope's health in recent years
As a young man in his native Argentina, Francis had part of one lung removed.
In the last few years of his life, Francis needed a wheelchair or a cane to get around and limited his public speaking while struggling with bronchitis and flu.
Francis first spent time in hospital as pope in 2021 for an operation to remove part of his colon.
In June 2023 he was admitted to hospital for an operation on his intestine. At the time, the Vatican said he had been suffering "recurrent, painful and worsening" symptoms caused by an abdominal hernia.
His recent health issues meant he was forced to miss significant events in the Roman Catholic calendar, including the traditional Good Friday procession at Rome's Colosseum last year.
In 2022, he hinted he might step down if his health deteriorated after he was pictured using a wheelchair due to mobility issues caused by a flare-up of sciatica - a nerve condition that causes leg pain.
His predecessor, the late Benedict XVI, became the first pope to resign in more than 600 years in 2013 instead of serving for life, and died in 2022.
The Pope's original name was Jorge Mario Bergoglio and he previously served as a bishop in Buenos Aires.
An estimated 1.4 billion Catholics across the world will mourn Francis' passing.
 
The washing of feet is something Christ did during the Last Supper. As for why he did it to those black muslims specifically, the most charitable I can be is that he was going for a "love thy enemies" thing but it really is just abysmal optics and I wish he had not done that.
Probably would have been better. Since he made his ministry about helping the dispossessed and the migrants. It was unavoidable everything he would say about that issue in his apostolic missives would be colored with that picture of him washing Muslims feet. The optics were terrible, and he also never addressed the issue. Christians are already getting it from both sides on the issue of their faith. The Muslims are saying the faith is weak and will be replaced, while the liberals are saying the faith is evil, and will be replaced.

There needs to be an articulation that Christianity is not a weak religion. That it can tell the infidel and the heretic to shove off. This does not necessarily have to come at the expense of the poor and dispossessed in the world, but Francis turned that message of mercy and charity into one of surrender to the infidel. Its no wonder conservative Catholics lost their minds and every other ecumenical denomination has studiously avoided doing any joint ventures with Pope Francis, which they had been doing under John Paul and Benedict.
 
In America we call them illegals, and I haven't had a single Priest say anything about accepting illegal immigrants to me.
Not if you're in a sanctuary city. Calling them "illegal immigrants" here gets you immediately corrected and chastised with the reminder that no one is illegal. Again, you don't understand how bad it is-- what a wonderful luxury to have.
 
I don't know if this is the right place to write this-

Everything about modern Christianity and its authorities makes me deeply sad.
Whether it's the conduct of popes, patriarchs, or local priests. Whether it's Catholics, Orthodox, or any color of Protestants.

Every Christian I know longs for a church that cares about them, about their families, about their past and their future.
And all they get are agendas of all stripes - from gay dick sucking to state boot licking. Just pick your flavor! Did you know that poop-slurpers worshiping demon Vishnu are on the same path to God as you? We are modern, you know! Very progressive.

When a friend moved and excitedly told me he finally found a good church with good people, I was happy for him. I know what it meant to him, and at the same time: Is this all he can hope for? All this - all those structures - and that’s that? Millennia of history, worship, veneration, and thought. All the writings, art, and music. And that’s it? "Hey, my priest doesn’t suck ass. Finally!" And what about the others?

It's hard to describe how bizarre this is. There is no salvation for me, but my heart does ache for Christians - truly.

May the next pope be the one you've been hoping for.
 
Not if you're in a sanctuary city. Calling them "illegal immigrants" here gets you immediately corrected and chastised with the reminder that no one is illegal. Again, you don't understand how bad it is-- what a wonderful luxury to have.
And I'd turn to that turbo-Karen and say, "Correct and chastise deez nuts, twatface!"
 
Francis turned that message of mercy and charity into one of surrender
It's an extremely Jesuit thing of him to do.

While the Jesuits are not the secret commie boogeymen people try to paint them as, they do have a well documented history of taking a very extreme interpretation of mercy and charity.
Not if you're in a sanctuary city. Calling them "illegal immigrants" here gets you immediately corrected and chastised with the reminder that no one is illegal.
Imagine self censoring because your corrupt city government and its sycophants chastised you. Couldn't be me.
 
Imagine self censoring because your corrupt city government and its sycophants chastised you. Couldn't be me.
This is happening in the Roman Catholic Church, in my city. You can only sneer about me using the word "migrant" in a post because you have no response. You know you're going too far and putting people at risk. You know you don't have a right to destroy nations, allow child molesters access to children, and create an atmosphere of lawlessness and call it Christian charity.
 
Which means you are not Christian. Christianity is a very specific thing, and on that specific thing even the Orthodox, Roman Catholics and non Apostasy Protestants can agree. If you do not accept Christ as the Son of God, the God in Three Persons incarnate, the Resurrection of the Dead, The Forgiveness of Sins, and the Life of the World to come, you cannot by definition be a Christian.
Since you changed it I'm going to respond again. They are 3 people. God the Father, Jesus Christ (the son) and The Holy Ghost (the spirit). 3 beings but one in purpose. It's called the Godhead. We disagree that they are one person, but not that they exist and work as one. Welcome to Restorationism.
 
oh come on, EVERYBODY does it!
I'm going to be %100 on this, my main question and interest in this has nothing to do with politics.

I want to know if he gets to keep the hat in heaven. Like, if you go to heaven and you were a pope, and you don't get to wear the hat, that has to be a mild disappointment.

I hope he and the other popes at least get the hats.
We disagree that they are one person
Look that's not how this works and if you wish to continue go look up quick videos explaining this all over youtube like that Redeemed Zoomer guy. I dislike anyone who self-identifies by their sociology-department mandated 'generation' but his videos on the topic of heresy and what heresy *is* are really, really good.

Mormons are heretical. This is a discussion that was over when the Nicene Creed happened. That doesn't make you a bad person or mormons bad people, it just is what it is, absent of moral or intellectual judgement. This is the nicest I'm going to ever get in a reply to someone I disagree with so... yeah.
 
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We found Bergoglio's murderer!
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Nigga, Jesus is a communist.
Yeah, when Jesus said, "Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left", he means he is taking the Bourgeoise away from the means of production and leave it in the control of the Proletariat.
 
There is however the principle issue. Why did Francis wash the feet of unrepentant infidels? This issue keeps coming up, and its the one cudgel that I see getting swung from conservative Catholics to trad LARPERs. I too, am actually curious as to why he did that.
Because jesuits use migrants to attack protestant countries. They've always been evil subverting cocksuckers.
 
Nigga, Jesus is a communist.
2 Thessalonians 3:10

KJ21
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
ASV
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, If any will not work, neither let him eat.
AMP
For even while we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.
AMPC
For while we were yet with you, we gave you this rule and charge: If anyone will not work, neither let him eat.
BRG
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
CSB
In fact, when we were with you, this is what we commanded you: “If anyone isn’t willing to work, he should not eat.”
CEB
Even when we were with you we were giving you this command: “If anyone doesn’t want to work, they shouldn’t eat.”
CJB
For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: if someone won’t work, he shouldn’t eat!
CEV
We also gave you this rule: If you don't work, you don't eat.
DARBY
For also when we were with you we enjoined you this, that if any man does not like to work, neither let him eat.
DLNT
For even when we were with you, we commanded this to you— that “if anyone does not want to work, neither let him eat”.
DRA
For also when we were with you, this we declared to you: that, if any man will not work, neither let him eat.
ERV
When we were with you, we gave you this rule: “Whoever will not work should not be allowed to eat.”
EASY
Even when we were there with you, we told you this rule: ‘If anyone refuses to work, you should not give food to him.’
EHV
In fact, when we were with you, this was our command to you: If anyone does not want to work, he should not eat.
ESV
For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
ESVUK
For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
EXB
[L For even] When we were with you, we gave you this ·rule [instruction; command]: “Anyone who ·refuses [is not willing] to work should not eat.”
GNV
For even when we were with you, this we warned you of, that if there were any, which would not work, that he should not eat.
GW
While we were with you, we gave you the order: “Whoever doesn’t want to work shouldn’t be allowed to eat.”
GNT
While we were with you, we used to tell you, “Whoever refuses to work is not allowed to eat.”
HCSB
In fact, when we were with you, this is what we commanded you: “If anyone isn’t willing to work, he should not eat.”
ICB
When we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If anyone will not work, he will not eat.”
ISV
While we were with you, we gave this order: “If anyone doesn’t want to work, he shouldn’t eat.”

JUB
For even when we were with you, this we declared unto you, that if anyone desires not to work neither should he eat.
KJV
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
AKJV
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
LSB
For even when we were with you, we used to command this to you: if anyone is not willing to work, neither let him eat.
LEB
For even when we were with you, we used to command this to you: that if anyone does not want to work, neither should he eat.
TLB
Even while we were still there with you, we gave you this rule: “He who does not work shall not eat.”
MSG
Don’t you remember the rule we had when we lived with you? “If you don’t work, you don’t eat.” And now we’re getting reports that a bunch of lazy good-for-nothings are taking advantage of you. This must not be tolerated. We command them to get to work immediately—no excuses, no arguments—and earn their own keep. Friends, don’t slack off in doing your duty.
MEV
For when we were with you, we commanded you that if any will not work, neither shall he eat.
MOUNCE
For even when we were with you, we gave you this charge: “If anyone is not willing to work, then he should not eat.”
NOG
While we were with you, we gave you the order: “Whoever doesn’t want to work shouldn’t be allowed to eat.”
NABRE
In fact, when we were with you, we instructed you that if anyone was unwilling to work, neither should that one eat.
NASB
For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.
NASB1995
For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.
NCB
In fact, even when we were with you, we charged that anyone who was unwilling to work should not eat.
NCV
When we were with you, we gave you this rule: “Anyone who refuses to work should not eat.”
NET
For even when we were with you, we used to give you this command: “If anyone is not willing to work, neither should he eat.”
NIRV
Even when we were with you, we gave you a rule. We said, “Anyone who won’t work shouldn’t be allowed to eat.”
NIV
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
NIVUK
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: ‘The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.’
NKJV
For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
NLV
When we were with you, we told you that if a man does not work, he should not eat.
NLT
Even while we were with you, we gave you this command: “Those unwilling to work will not get to eat.”
NMB
For when we were with you, this we warned you of: that if there were any who would not work, the same should not eat.
NRSVA
For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: Anyone unwilling to work should not eat.
NRSVACE
For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: Anyone unwilling to work should not eat.
NRSVCE
For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: Anyone unwilling to work should not eat.
NRSVUE
For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: anyone unwilling to work should not eat.
NTFE
And, indeed, when we were with you, we gave you this command: those who won’t work shouldn’t eat!
OJB
For even when we were with you, this we used to direct you: that if anyone will not be a po’el (worker), neither let him be an ochel (eater) [Gn 3:19].
RGT
For even when we were with you, we warned you of this; that if there were any who would not work, he should not eat.
RSV
For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: If any one will not work, let him not eat.
RSVCE
For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: If any one will not work, let him not eat.
TLV
For even when we were with you, we would give you this order: if anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
VOICE
This is exactly why, while with you, we commanded you: “Anyone not willing to work shouldn’t get to eat!”
WEB
For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: “If anyone is not willing to work, don’t let him eat.”
WE
Even when we were with you, we told you this, `If any man will not work, do not let him eat.'
WYC
For also when we were among you, we commanded this thing to you [For why and when we were with you, this thing we announced, or warned, to you], that if any man will not work, neither eat he.
YLT
for even when we were with you, this we did command you, that if any one is not willing to work, neither let him eat,
Best one:
PHILLIPS
One further order we must give you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ: don’t associate with the brother whose life is undisciplined, and who despises the teaching we gave him. You know well that we ourselves are your examples here, and that our lives among you were never undisciplined. We did not eat anyone’s food without paying for it. In fact we toiled and laboured night and day to avoid being the slightest expense to any of you. This was not because we had no right to ask our necessities of you, but because we wanted to set you an example. When we were actually with you we gave you this principle to work on: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.” Now we hear that you have some among you living quite undisciplined lives, never doing a stroke of work, and busy only in other people’s affairs. Our order to such men, indeed our appeal by the Lord Jesus Christ, is to settle down to work and eat the food they have earned themselves.
 
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