Crime Police by another name - Or, how Minneapolis became Johannesberg North

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In June 2020, the Minneapolis city council famously vowed to defund the police department. Though their plans fell through, the fully funded MPD is nonetheless struggling. More than 250 officers have resigned or retired since then. Earlier this year, the Minneapolis supreme court ruled that the city has a duty to staff the MPD with a minimum of 731 sworn officers, but the department is at least 100 officers short of that target. Meantime, crime has spiked, with 96 homicides in 2021—doubling the number in 2019 and tying a 1995 record.

Private security has stepped into the breach. The number of licenses approved for new private providers rose from 14 in 2019 to 27 in 2021, according to data from Minnesota’s Board of Private Detective and Protective Agent Services. Demand is exploding as businesses increasingly opt for private guards over off-duty cops.

Christopher Forest started his private security firm, Unparalleled Security, after the rioting of 2020. Today, he has 175 employees. Forest did not set out to start a private security firm, having previously worked as CEO of Minnesota’s largest valet-parking company. But after June 2020, his clients began approaching him with requests for security guards. These clients had once hired off-duty police officers for their security needs, but the MPD’s image after the George Floyd killing made that more difficult.

“I think it just had to do with the temperature in the room when you have a police officer in a venue versus an unarmed security guard,” Forest says.
Michael MacDonald, who runs a smaller private security firm called JomsVikings Protection and Security, agrees. “Stores do not want cops out in front because of the negative attention it can bring to their facilities,” says MacDonald. His license to operate was issued July 31, 2020. Today, he has 18 full-time and ten part-time employees.

High crime means that new clients, such as movie theaters, are entering the market for private security, says Richard Hodson, the chairman of Minnesota’s Board of Private Detective and Protective Agent Services. Hodson says he knows of a retired police officer who recently got a license to run his own private security firm but has had to turn down contracts because he cannot hire enough guards to staff them. Demand exceeds supply.

Businesses still fear negative publicity from taking an aggressive enforcement stance. Forest says retail clients instruct his guards not to confront shoplifters. “Retail is in a place where they do not want you to even address the person,” he says. “You are not to talk to them. You are not to approach them. You are not to ask to see the items in their bag. If they are purchasing something, you are asked to not look at the receipt. You are 100 percent visual deterrent, and that is all.”

That approach isn’t universal. MacDonald says that his guards sometimes confront shoplifters, but never aggressively. “When we zone in on the individual who is stealing, we go over there and we say, ‘Hey, man, we know you stole. Can you just put it back and then leave?’ We start with that approach. We don’t go right to the top,” he says. “I will only take a contract for a store if there is a clear understanding that we are strictly there for employee safety. We are not loss prevention.”

Should guards call police to stop crimes in progress? MacDonald’s personnel tend not to do so for shoplifting. Forest says that some of his guards who work for hotels do intervene if guests are engaging in illegal activities; in theory, they should call the police, but they usually don’t. “If it is not a life threatening situation, the police do not show up,” Forest says. “They let my guards de-escalate on their own.”

Even a nonconfrontational approach can escalate. MacDonald describes an incident that occurred in July: “A guy stole a bag of chips and shoved it down his pants. Our guy made an approach and was like, ‘You can keep the chips, but you still got to go.’ Well, the guy brandished a firearm out of his bag. So our guy pulled his firearm. And then the guy took off running. But our employee had the level of training to remember that he could still re-holster it, and he does not have to engage any further.”

That incident merited a rare call to the MPD. “If it gets higher than a theft, like what happened with my employee, then the cops will actually come, because otherwise they are not coming,” says MacDonald.

Some Minneapolis residents still prefer to hire off-duty cops, whom the department makes available through what it calls the “buyback program.” The upscale Lowry neighborhood established the Minneapolis Safety Initiative for off-duty police to conduct patrols. Residents are trying to raise $210,000, suggesting a recurring contribution from their neighbors of $220/month for at least six months. The Minneapolis Safety Initiative attracted significant coverage, including criticism from some who argue that wealthier neighborhoods are purchasing scarce police hours.

Nevertheless, demand for private security is growing. MacDonald and Forest expect to see significant expansion in the year ahead. High crime and police shortages are changing the public-safety landscape in Minneapolis.
 
Laughs in Rothbard.
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Until private security has the "authority" issue punishment they're just a bluff. Society shouldn't want them to have that power in the long term, but in the short term I just want to shoplifters with lifelong injuries, and bodies on the curb.
 
This is what "defund the police" gets you. No cop in the MPD wants to be the next Derek Chauvin because of outdated policies. Even so, Chauvin was a horrible cop with horrible training from Minneapolis themselves.

How long before Minneapolis turns into a food desert?
 
Genius. Good luck trying to smear a mercenary cop who's subcontracted 3 layers deep and who just forgot to wear their ID that day. Corporations aren't bound by the same rules, and merc cops are going to be way more prone to violence.
 
I enjoy the Democrats bringing in that corporate dystopian future. All we need is more neon lights and maybe some other cheese.
 
Genius. Good luck trying to smear a mercenary cop who's subcontracted 3 layers deep and who just forgot to wear their ID that day. Corporations aren't bound by the same rules, and merc cops are going to be way more prone to violence.

And Shadowrun gets one step closer to becoming reality. I can't wait to see ads for Lone Star in Minneapolis soon.
 
This is what "defund the police" gets you. No cop in the MPD wants to be the next Derek Chauvin because of outdated policies. Even so, Chauvin was a horrible cop with horrible training from Minneapolis themselves.

How long before Minneapolis turns into a food desert?
Let's hear your qualifications on LE training.
 
Until private security has the "authority" issue punishment they're just a bluff. Society shouldn't want them to have that power in the long term, but in the short term I just want to shoplifters with lifelong injuries, and bodies on the curb.
This is why you hire ringers. Either under license with a separate company, on their own license, or they "lie on paperwork" to get hired. Usually paid, in cash or commissary, slightly less than minimum wage. They're usually the type to be in-and-out of jail anyway, this allows them to draw a steady paycheck while doing it. If you start to have issues and need to go hands-on you simply rotate out personnel in good standing and bring the ringer in. A good one will know how to escalate the situation as much as possible within the confines of the law. If they've baited them well they don't even catch charges. They go a bit overboard with the nigger knocking and the company pleads ignorance and "washes their hands" of the ringer.

I don't know how they do the Good Ole Boys club up there but it helped that the boss at the place I worked knew a judge and the police chief since kindergarten. I cut that career short when I learned I'd been doing round-robin with managers because I got hired right before several release dates. Apparently they beat some jogger into a coma.
 
I love this company name: JomsVikings Protection. Naming a protection company after a force famous for raiding. I would open a company called NiggerBane just to piss of the joggers.

In all seriousneess though this is what Democratic blue eyed policies get you: security for those that can actually afford it. This is step by step making the goverment loosing it's legimitacy by outsorucing essential services. One should ask the ancient Romans what this does for an empire. Spoiler: only bad things come out of it
 
A government losing their "monopoly on violence" is either a really good thing or a really bad thing depending on who you are and who you ask.

I am of the opinion that Freedom is directly connected to relative power. If not by law necessarily, it certainly is in practice. If you individually have enough money, connections, and brute force, a lot of laws suddenly become suggestions and speedbumps. The same is true on a larger scale. The United States has been rather uniquely free because its majority population has been rather uniquely powerful in comparison to its ruling elite. Governing powers have relatively little to fear when the peasantry can't even have long knives. Unfortunately the power ratio has been tilting toward the governing powers around here more and more for a long time.

Still as the governing mandate, will, and capabilities break down, power naturally decentralizes.

I am rather fond of Rothbard, particularly late Rothbard.
One of his more controversial (to a lolbert) articles, it sounds like it is addressing current events, but it was written in 92:
 
but the MPD’s image after the George Floyd killing made that more difficult.
Yeah, I'm sure that's why Minneapolis cops are resigning in droves lmao. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the faggots in charge throwing them under the bus at the first sign of trouble. Private security guards don't have to walk into a nigger's crack den to break up a domestic dispute and, thanks to the defund movement, it's probably more lucrative too.

Good plan: defund the police, experience explosion in crime, make sure you have to lower your standards so only the absolute dumbest people become cops.

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This is the natural progression of the law becoming a tool instead of a standard. Crime doesn't matter to these people, the laws value is in being a weapon to wield against their opponents. Justice isn't a goal, its an orange painted stick dangled out in front of people to deflect people from taking vengeance instead.

Genuinely can't wait for the first widespread incident of a private security guard being executed by some criminal. Not because the poor bastard deserves to die, but because this shit's gonna have to go wrong before it goes right. Private Security ain't gonna hang around if their job expectation becomes "Die for Pajeets corner store".
 
So you have security that won't even attempt to stop any crime short of straight up murder? These thieves are retarded for only stealing a bag of chips. They should just be piling a cart full of groceries since apparently no one will actually do anything about it. Hell, the security guards might even help you load them up in your hoopty.
 
Not surprising that the rich, or at least the business-savvy, are the only ones who can hire private security. If the police are gone, who helps those who can’t afford guards at their doors?
 
Genuinely can't wait for the first widespread incident of a private security guard being executed by some criminal. Not because the poor bastard deserves to die, but because this shit's gonna have to go wrong before it goes right. Private Security ain't gonna hang around if their job expectation becomes "Die for Pajeets corner store".
Especially if the pay sucks and the backlash is massive.
 
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