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I dunno, seems Revival Blessing is more of a problem than Assist. Assist can be used in a variety of strategies and RB in and of itself is very counter-intuitive to how the games have been played competitively since the very beginning.

Why ban the move that isn't in and of itself, broken, but not the move that's actual bullshit? RB is a move that shouldn't exist. It may only have 1 PP, but its quite literally an extra life for whatever you need for the situation, and the little rat bastard still stays alive too (unless KO'd the same turn). Now that's bullshit

Fuckin' Smogon, man.
This ban will likely be revisited, as the outcome of whether Revival Blessing is ultimately broken is unclear.
If revival blessing is abused still then it will show that RB was broken rather than assist.

But well it's early in the metagame's life and it's nat dex so it's fine.
 
If revival blessing is abused still then it will show that RB was broken rather than assist.

But well it's early in the metagame's life and it's nat dex so it's fine.
Fair point, it's just extremely odd to me that Assist is the one getting the ban right now when the moves been fine forever, then RB comes in and suddenly Assist is the issue. Just feels incredibly heavy handed is all, especially considering that whole "regenerator stall trap" just doesn't work without RB.
 
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Can we talk about how some of the CAP 'mons are designed around a gimmick/game mechanic that hasn't been a thing in years, and Smogon refuses to update them because it would "go against their original design-purpose"?

Because that's fucking ridiculous.
 
I dunno, seems Revival Blessing is more of a problem than Assist. Assist can be used in a variety of strategies and RB in and of itself is very counter-intuitive to how the games have been played competitively since the very beginning.

Why ban the move that isn't in and of itself, broken, but not the move that's actual bullshit? RB is a move that shouldn't exist. It may only have 1 PP, but its quite literally an extra life for whatever you need for the situation, and the little rat bastard still stays alive too (unless KO'd the same turn). Now that's bullshit

Fuckin' Smogon, man.
Gonna bring this topic back up now that Smogon had to remove the National Dex Anything Goes ladder. The reason why they couldn’t just make it so that Assist doesn’t call Revival Blessing is because, for some reason, Revival Blessing is coded as a move that can be called by Assist in Scarlet and Violet despite Assist not existing after Ultra Sun and Moon. They also can’t just ban the move combination because the point of Anything Goes is that there are no bans. Combine this cancer with the Tera Electric Shedinja + Air Balloon strategy and you’re left with a meta that no one wants to play.
 
Combine this cancer with the Tera Electric Shedinja + Air Balloon strategy
>a literal bug breaks the game
o i am laffin

EDIT: Thinking about it now, TECHNICALLY you can kill that boosted Shedinja. Wonder Guard is not the almighty game-braking super ability that most people think it is, in fact, there's a reason why it's been in PU/NU/Untiered for a long fucking time since R/S/E. You could still use whatever pokemon you wanted, but you would need a VERY specific set of moves in order to make sure the thing dies.

  • a BAD weather move (Sandstorm/Hail)
  • Status Moves (specifically Poison/Burn)
  • Stealth Rock
Of course this is assuming your opponent is retarded. If your opponent is smart, they would probably know this and build an entire troll team that consists of shit like GOOD weather moves (sun/rain), Magic Bounce (ability), Magic Coat (move) Rapid Spin, and Defog. So your matches would probably wind up being "PP Stall" types where all your non-attacking moves will have their PP zapped bone-dry, and even if ALL your moves are zero'd, Struggle bypasses Wonder Guard
 
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>a literal bug breaks the game
o i am laffin

EDIT: Thinking about it now, TECHNICALLY you can kill that boosted Shedinja. Wonder Guard is not the almighty game-braking super ability that most people think it is, in fact, there's a reason why it's been in PU/NU/Untiered for a long fucking time since R/S/E. You could still use whatever pokemon you wanted, but you would need a VERY specific set of moves in order to make sure the thing dies.

  • a BAD weather move (Sandstorm/Hail)
  • Status Moves (specifically Poison/Burn)
  • Stealth Rock
Of course this is assuming your opponent is retarded. If your opponent is smart, they would probably know this and build an entire troll team that consists of shit like GOOD weather moves (sun/rain), Magic Bounce (ability), Magic Coat (move) Rapid Spin, and Defog. So your matches would probably wind up being "PP Stall" types where all your non-attacking moves will have their PP zapped bone-dry, and even if ALL your moves are zero'd, Struggle bypasses Wonder Guard
Shedninja has seen some use in gen 7 and 8 on stall teams.
It switches in for on some dangerous breaker like Kyurem, Lele, Koko, Bulu etc.
He can deal with the weather with goggles and hasards with Mega-Sableye or Boots.
The set is incredibly gay and passive tho.

It's like will o wisp, toxic, hex and protect
 
Shedninja has seen some use in gen 7 and 8 on stall teams.
It switches in for on some dangerous breaker like Kyurem, Lele, Koko, Bulu etc.
He can deal with the weather with goggles and hasards with Mega-Sableye or Boots.
The set is incredibly gay and passive tho.

It's like will o wisp, toxic, hex and protect
Right, but I was talking about the "Tera Electric Shedinja + Air Balloon strategy". Since he can only hold one item, he would still be fucked by weather and rocks

Didn't know about the useage in Gen 7/8 though.
 
OMGON BANS VOLCARONA, lulz ensues.
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Is tera really that OP in the new games? I wouldn't think it would be an issue for something that goes down in one hit to fucking rocks, one of the most common type attack that almost every pokemon can learn.
 
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Is tera really that OP in the new games? I wouldn't think it would be an issue for something that goes down in one hit to fucking rocks, one of the most common type attack that almost every pokemon can learn.
It wears heavy duty boots so entry hazards don't affect volc.

The main problem with volc under terra is that hard counters become checks.

Volc usually can't do anything to heatran, skeledirge and mons like toxapex or clodsire and sturdy checks.


If Volc runs terra ground/water then it can take on heatran and skeledirge and terra grass allows Volc to beat toxapex and clodsire.

There's a ton of unbalanced mons in the early home meta.


Terra allows you to bypass checks and counter in a way that feels more cheesy, wrong and easy than z moves.
 
There's a ton of unbalanced mons in the early home meta.


Terra allows you to bypass checks and counter in a way that feels more cheesy, wrong and easy than z moves.
Wow, it's almost like GameFreak's excuse for nuking the NationalDex for "balance" reasons was complete bullshit if they were just going to break the game with new mechanics anyways.
 
Has anyone made a Chad VGC vs. the virgin Smogons meme?
We could make one
Single/Smogon player are getting cucked by gamefreak.

Maybe I am late, but I never understood why nintendo have the priority to the double format compared to the single format.

Btw with the dlc the metagame gonna change quite a lot.

Scale shot loaded dice baxcalibur looks heat
 
We could make one
Single/Smogon player are getting cucked by gamefreak.

Maybe I am late, but I never understood why nintendo have the priority to the double format compared to the single format.

Btw with the dlc the metagame gonna change quite a lot.

Scale shot loaded dice baxcalibur looks heat
Double gives you a lot more options. There’s less switching. A bunch of moves really only apply to doubles. I wish the whole game was double. Idk why GF insists on making 90% of in-game battles single. Pokémon Colosseum and its sequel was all doubles and it was well-regarded for its strategic battles. If players are introduced to doubles early and often then they could become more comfortable with triples as well. Triples are just so rare and different that it’s hard to put effort into them.

Smogon’s autism is made clear through how they stick to Full Battle Lv. 100 Singles to this day. The games have never been scaled around Lv. 100. Lv. 50 is more sensible. 6 Pokémon is too much. Singles are chess-matchy and boring. The best argument against doubles is that they can encourage even crazier stall setups, but you should have more options to deal with those setups anyway.
 
Pretty sure Showdown is run by m2f trannies
I don't have any stats but they seem to be quite vocal over on the Smogon forums. And there are definitely more than a couple of them on the various mod teams and tier councils.

I haven't had any negative experiences with them per se, but I generally just dislike how opaque and incestuous Smogon's decision-making is. Sometime last week, a relatively popular PokeTuber by the name of LordEmvee was quietly banned from Smogon.

The issue is that no one knew of the context behind the ban until yesterday, when one of the staff released a single post from their internal discussion thread detailing how they had received allegations of grooming made against him. The post describes his actions as having contacted 16yo on Showdown and other platforms back when he was 22 (he is apparently 31 now), which eventually led to "online sexual conduct":
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I feel like this was likely the worst way they could've handled the situation. I can't argue with the ban since I agree that it was probably the best decision in order to cover themselves and their user base, but the fact that they chose to release this single post and none of the context leading up to it (purportedly to protect the victim's privacy) seems to me like favoritism and hypocrisy when compared to how they've handled the situation of another one of their prominent community members, a rather based fellow by the name of CTC.

Granted, CTC was banned for entirely different reasons (he has a rather caustic personality and is well-known to frequently use many varieties of gamer words both in-game and on the forums; some would consider him racist and bigoted). However, he has been repeated unbanned (and banned again) and there hasn't really ever been any effort made to publicly call him out on his behaviour and get him cancelled like there was with LordEmvee.

Just release the logs, you fucking jannies.
 
Isn't Smogon right up there with Serebii and Bulbapedia for being infamous for having secret pedo clubs? I remember Metokur making a video about the Pokemon Community once because they coudn't stop sperging the fuck out about Trump's wall at the time. I also know ED has articles about specific smogon members that have done fucked up shit.

My point is that this seems like a "pot calling the kettle black" situation by Smogon.
 
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