Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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REEE HOW DARE YOU CALL A MONSTER TAMING GAME POKEMON-LIKE!!!
Nice strawman

I swear to god fans of the monster taming genre outside of Pokemon have extremely thin skin. All it takes is seeing someone call their favorite game a Pokemon rip off and they flip out. Speaking of I never hear anyone call another monster taming game a Pokemon rip off, unless “Pokemon like” or “Pokemonesque” is considered it in the eyes of these people. They’re just as oversensitive as the Game Freak shills who shit themselves if anyone even remotely criticizes SwSh or the series in general.
It really sucks because I want to like YoKai Watch and look forward to the newest Monster Hunter Stories but the insufferable fans killed both games for me.
 
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SnowBall said:
REEE HOW DARE YOU CALL A MONSTER TAMING GAME POKEMON-LIKE!!!
Nice strawman

I swear to god fans of the monster taming genre outside of Pokemon have extremely thin skin. All it takes is seeing someone call their favorite game a Pokemon rip off and they flip out. Speaking of I never hear anyone call another monster taming game a Pokemon rip off, unless “Pokemon like” or “Pokemonesque” is considered it in the eyes of these people. They’re just as oversensitive as the Game Freak shills who shit themselves if anyone even remotely criticizes SwSh or the series in general.
It really sucks because I want to like YoKai Watch and look forward to the newest Monster Hunter Stories but the insufferable fans killed both games for me.
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The fuck is that person even on about with calling it a dragon quest like.

Dragon quest monsters came out after pokemon. This took me less then a minute to google.

If people really want to stretch it Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei would be the correct game to use. Someone in the second link got it right.

But really I think Megami tensei and pokemon and different enough to stand apart. That is until we get Pokemon Dr Dolittle version.
 
ChucklesTheJester said:
The fuck is that person even on about with calling it a dragon quest like.

Dragon quest monsters came out after pokemon. This took me less then a minute to google.

If people really want to stretch it Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei would be the correct game to use. Someone in the second link got it right.

But really I think Megami tensei and pokemon and different enough to stand apart. That is until we get Pokemon Dr Dolittle version.
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So I guess when we finally get the powers of that guy who can read pokemon's minds from their footprints, that's when we become SMT.

As for the buttmad people get about comparisons, that's merely because Pokemon is an order of magnitude more popular than any other mon game, so comparing it to Pokemon literally makes more sense than comparing it to every other mon game not named Persona combined.

Yes, I intentionally worded this to sound as casually arrogant as possible. Why do you ask?
 
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I wish austist would stop comparing everything against each other just because they are slightly similar. Just because Monhun stories 2 has a few similar mechanics to pokemon doesn't justify it being compared to it. If you look past the superficial similarities you can see how completely different these games are. Why can't games stand on their own merits instead of having to be compared to justify how good or bad it is.
 
ChucklesTheJester said:
The fuck is that person even on about with calling it a dragon quest like.

Dragon quest monsters came out after pokemon. This took me less then a minute to google.

If people really want to stretch it Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei would be the correct game to use. Someone in the second link got it right.

But really I think Megami tensei and pokemon and different enough to stand apart. That is until we get Pokemon Dr Dolittle version.
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You could recruit monsters in Dragon Quest V but yeah I agree. Also these people need to realize that not everyone knows about SMT or hell DQ5 in the west. It is so dumb seeing people scolding Pokemon fans for not knowing every single game with monster taming elements and the “origins” of the genre that are obscure as fuck unless they live in Japan. Correct me if I am wrong but Digimon and to a lesser extent Persona seem to be the only monster games the general public outside the echo chambers of the internet are aware of.
Also I think I posted this before but Imagine trying to grasp at straws this badly.
I wish austist would stop comparing everything against each other just because they are slightly similar. Just because Monhun stories 2 has a few similar mechanics to pokemon doesn't justify it being compared to it. If you look past the superficial similarities you can see how completely different these games are. Why can't games stand on their own merits instead of having to be compared to justify how good or bad it is.
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Agreed. Pokemon fans are horribly guilty of it too but some of the more stupidly vocal monster taming genre fans take it so personally if you even remotely call a monster game “Pokemon like.” Getting snooty and policing how people should call a monster taming game will just turn potential fans away.
 
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You could recruit monsters in Dragon Quest V but yeah I agree. Also these people need to realize that not everyone knows about SMT or hell DQ5 in the west. It is so dumb seeing people scolding Pokemon fans for not knowing every single game with monster taming elements and the “origins” of the genre that are obscure as fuck unless they live in Japan. Correct me if I am wrong but Digimon and to a lesser extent Persona seem to be the only monster games the general public outside the echo chambers of the internet are aware of.
Also I think I posted this before but Imagine trying to grasp at straws this badly.

Agreed. Pokemon fans are horribly guilty of it too but some of the more stupidly vocal monster taming genre fans take it so personally if you even remotely call a monster game “Pokemon like.” Getting snooty and policing how people should call a monster taming game will just turn potential fans away.
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No wonder these person love to circle jerk so hard when they can reach this hard and long. :story:
 
Magnemite and Magneton look and sound like a cross between a Van de Graaff generator and a robot.

Magnezone is kind of disturbing though, what with how they fuse into a UFO.
 
CrystalHead said:
I've been replaying Omega Ruby this week and I don't really know if I like Hoenn or not.

I have fond memories of Emerald and I think Hoenn has a great Region Dex and selection of Pokemon but as an region it just kinda feels off to me.

I don't know if it's just me but the pacing feels a little off currently on the road to Fortree city and it feels like the game has flown by, there's really not a whole lot between the first three gyms and even the gap between Wattson and Flannery smells kinda small and than Norman's pretty much instsntly after Flannery unless you wanna explore the dessert. It just kinda feels like the early part of the game doesn't have a whole lot of breathing room between the gyms especially compared to something like Kanto which is the last region I played.

I couldn't but notice that the start rehashes alot from kanto and johto, Petalburg is bargain bin Virdian city and forest, Roxanne is a Female Brock but with a walking nose instead of a cool looking rock snake, Dewford is Cianwood with a tiny ass cave added on, Slateport is Olivine with a contest hall instead of a gym.

And also water routes are typically my least favourite parts of Pokemon games so I kind of agree with IGN on the whole "too much water" sentiment
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That’s because Emerald is a much better game and the remakes take the worst of both worlds from Gen 3 and 6.
 
Buttigieg2020 said:
That’s because Emerald is a much better game and the remakes take the worst of both worlds from Gen 3 and 6.
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I would have to disagree. One of the best things to come from ORAS was the dexnav and the super training (granted that was also in X and Y). Not to mention Emerald didn't have the QoL that the Gen after it brought, so I'm reluctant to call it the better game personally.
 
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I would have to disagree. One of the best things to come from ORAS was the dexnav and the super training (granted that was also in X and Y). Not to mention Emerald didn't have the QoL that the Gen after it brought, so I'm reluctant to call it the better game personally.
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I'd agree that ORAS are better games than RSE on their own, however I'd say the jump from X/Y to ORAS was nowhere near as impressive as the jump from GSC to RSE. Though of course we're just talking about Emerald, which wasn't that much of an improvement compared to Ruby and Sapphire. It should've just been the 3rd gen game, instead of there being 3, but that problem plagued Pokemon for far too long. When X and Y came out, everyone (including me) expected a Z, but I think I'm glad they went away with the 3rd game.

I wish they would do away with the two games philosophy as well, but for everything they did wrong with SwSh, at least they tried to make the versions distinct with different gym leaders.

Anyway that's just me being autistic, ORAS also gave the evil teams a lot more personality than just "We want land, we want water." Even if pretty much everyone except Maxie is borderline schizophrenic or sociopathic, or both. At least it stands as a reason for them being part of a batshit organization that wants to terraform the world.
 
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CrystalHead said:
I've been replaying Omega Ruby this week and I don't really know if I like Hoenn or not.

I have fond memories of Emerald and I think Hoenn has a great Region Dex and selection of Pokemon but as an region it just kinda feels off to me.

I don't know if it's just me but the pacing feels a little off currently on the road to Fortree city and it feels like the game has flown by, there's really not a whole lot between the first three gyms and even the gap between Wattson and Flannery smells kinda small and than Norman's pretty much instsntly after Flannery unless you wanna explore the dessert. It just kinda feels like the early part of the game doesn't have a whole lot of breathing room between the gyms especially compared to something like Kanto which is the last region I played.

I couldn't but notice that the start rehashes alot from kanto and johto, Petalburg is bargain bin Virdian city and forest, Roxanne is a Female Brock but with a walking nose instead of a cool looking rock snake, Dewford is Cianwood with a tiny ass cave added on, Slateport is Olivine with a contest hall instead of a gym.

And also water routes are typically my least favourite parts of Pokemon games so I kind of agree with IGN on the whole "too much water" sentiment
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Buttigieg2020 said:
That’s because Emerald is a much better game and the remakes take the worst of both worlds from Gen 3 and 6.
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Emerald at least has replayability value. Been doing it with a paid version of GBA emulator and breeding competitive pokemon for the battle frontier. Once you win more than enough times in any one facility (I earned over 5000 battle points), there's a bug that causes the game to have every other facility have the AI throw stronger and broken pokemon at you with the algorithms in their favor.

For example. You get frozen or sleep more often, OHKO moves are more accurate, and a single mistake could mean winning or losing. The pokemon that you battle have their IVs adjusted to always match your team's, and you need a lot of luck and chance to make a straight winning streak.
 
Tardar the Barbarian said:
Emerald at least has replayability value. Been doing it with a paid version of GBA emulator and breeding competitive pokemon for the battle frontier. Once you win more than enough times in any one facility (I earned over 5000 battle points), there's a bug that causes the game to have every other facility have the AI throw stronger and broken pokemon at you with the algorithms in their favor.

For example. You get frozen or sleep more often, OHKO moves are more accurate, and a single mistake could mean winning or losing. The pokemon that you battle have their IVs adjusted to always match your team's, and you need a lot of luck and chance to make a straight winning streak.
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ORAS also has replay value, too. So the Battle Frontier isn't in it. How does that stop you from replaying the game with different teams, and shit?

Look, I'm not gonna defend GF for taking it out, or whatever, but basing replayability just on the Battle Frontier is kind of dumb.
 
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