Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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to me, i "like" swsh because for lack of a better comparison, it reminds me of MGS: twin snakes in a way. they're both so ridiculous and cringeworthy story-wise that it makes it intriguing enough to want to know more. that, and after i actually got swsh i found myself having way more fun playing it than i ever expected. but holy shit the dp remakes look like hot ass. this was the one time they should've kept GF involved for, like, one more game in this situation, because i wanted to see dp remakes in the non-linear map style so goddamn bad.
let's hope legends looks slightly better closer to release, it seems interesting
also there are tall asshole blonde men who can step on me in both twin snakes and swsh
 
Nauseated Courgi said:
No offense, but how is a reddit post pointing out what most pokemon players already know and acknowledged any different from what's been said here?

It reads like someone coming to the same realization that many others pessimistic about series has come to.
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Because even though that the writing was on the wall by the time the reviews for the 3DS and the Switch titles came out, they still bought them.
 
Rotollo 2 said:
I won't suck Tojiri's feet or some gay shit like that but there is some sense of irony to me related to his original vision of trying to replicate bug catching after urbanization fucked up forests and shit. But as the series went on much like cities become more developed so did the Pokémon formula become more set in stone and down to a science. Now with Acreus it seems to be trying to be developing an entirely new formula so that would be more like taring the entire thing down and starting from the foundation to make a new city.
Again I don't think letting a man who probably hasn't had direct involvement in the series since the early 2000's would fix the series, but getting back to that singular core idea he had might help them refresh the burnout they have from the series overall

I mean considering there is a literal pokemon based on islamic terrorism in Clover, understandable
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I personally just find Tajiri fans to be super obnoxious. The ones that claim anything after Crystal is souless because he isn’t involved in them. Do we even know how he feels about the games made by Masuda after he stopped directing? Because this whole “vision” thing Tajiri fans sperg about makes it sound like he would never approve of anything that goes against it.
 
It is a known fact that Digimon are hotter than Pokemon. But isn't it a bit unfair of a comparison because Digimon can merge with teenage girls?
 
I'm still planning on grabbing the Snap remake. I will admit I am a nostalgia whore and that may be driving my purchase. Still remember the days of taking your game to that kiosk at Blockbuster to print your photos even if they were ass in the hands of a kid.

My question is where the fuck were those graphics for SwSh?
 
Local Coyote said:
I'm still planning on grabbing the Snap remake. I will admit I am a nostalgia whore and that may be driving my purchase. Still remember the days of taking your game to that kiosk at Blockbuster to print your photos even if they were ass in the hands of a kid.

My question is where the fuck were those graphics for SwSh?
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Please understand, Game Freak small indie dev, Namco not
 
Im still amazed that GEN 1 gets a remake every 3-5 years but Gen 4 seems to be gamefreak's least favorite generation.
Gen 3 had a remake about a decade later and Gen 4's remakes were pushed back almost 2 decades and then rushed as Chinese shovelware.
With the passing of Iwata (which Gen 4 was clearly his favorite generation because it was the largest growth and number of spinoffs at once in the franchise's history which laid the foundation for up to Gen 8 where GF really dropped the ball with their Krabby land version of pokemon.) Pokemon sucks now.

GF hates Sinnoh so much that they outsourced it to a Chinese mobile game developer with half the effort put in compared to ORAS, the GEN 3 remakes and looks far worse than the pretty solid HeartGold/SoulSilver Gen 2 remakes back in GEN 4 which was made on inferior hardware with far less resources at the dev's disposal.

"OOPS there buddy, ran out of energy, gotta pay me real $$$ for them time gems so you can fight more Pokémon battles against fucking Bidoof in the tall grass. (and other arbitrary bullshit that was never in the base game.)"

People were expecting something along the lines of Pokemon Sun in gameplay and world models. Not this lazy ass Chibi shit. It was cute in the DS and GBA games due to hardware limitations (Gen 4 and 5 were a full 3D engine but the DS sucked hardware wise.) and style as emerging devs making a niche, But 30 years of Pokemon with all the advancements in computer tech leaves no excuse not to have detailed character models like in the anime, which was the original goal of the devs in the first place.

Gamefreak smol indie studio plz understand.
 
Nick Gurs said:
Im still amazed that GEN 1 gets a remake every 3-5 years but Gen 4 seems to be gamefreak's least favorite generation.
Gen 3 had a remake about a decade later and Gen 4's remakes were pushed back almost 2 decades and then rushed as Chinese shovelware.
With the passing of Iwata (which Gen 4 was clearly his favorite generation because it was the largest growth and number of spinoffs at once in the franchise's history which laid the foundation for up to Gen 8 where GF really dropped the ball with their Krabby land version of pokemon.) Pokemon sucks now.

GF hates Sinnoh so much that they outsourced it to a Chinese mobile game developer with half the effort put in compared to ORAS, the GEN 3 remakes and looks far worse than the pretty solid HeartGold/SoulSilver Gen 2 remakes back in GEN 4 which was made on inferior hardware with far less resources at the dev's disposal.

"OOPS there buddy, ran out of energy, gotta pay me real $$$ for them time gems so you can fight more Pokémon battles against fucking Bidoof in the tall grass. (and other arbitrary bullshit that was never in the base game.)"

People were expecting something along the lines of Pokemon Sun in gameplay and world models. Not this lazy ass Chibi shit. It was cute in the DS and GBA games due to hardware limitations (Gen 4 and 5 were a full 3D engine but the DS sucked hardware wise.) and style as emerging devs making a niche, But 30 years of Pokemon with all the advancements in computer tech leaves no excuse not to have detailed character models like in the anime, which was the original goal of the devs in the first place.

Gamefreak smol indie studio plz understand.
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As understandable as that point of view is, I'm still of the opinion that we need to wait and see on this.

This is first time they ever outsourced to another studio (with the one they chose having some decent games under their belt) and, right now, it's up in the air how this will turn out (same with Legends). Who knows, if this remake is good, maybe the chibi style will grow on you.
 
Nauseated Courgi said:
As understandable as that point of view is, I'm still of the opinion that we need to wait and see on this.

This is first time they ever outsourced to another studio (with the one they chose having some decent games under their belt) and, right now, it's up in the air how this will turn out (same with Legends). Who knows, if this remake is good, maybe the chibi style will grow on you.
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The style is irrelevant to me so much as will the game actually be finished, playable, and have enough new content to justify a re-release. It's not worth re-buying if it's a straight 1:1 remake with a fresh coat of paint and minimum new content. The only reason I'm even slightly optimistic about it is that a different studio is handling it. I would expect GF to just outright remove features from it if they were doing it, as they do with the main series games. Maybe somebody else won't fuck it up so bad. Who knows.
 
Questionable Ceviche said:
The style is irrelevant to me so much as will the game actually be finished, playable, and have enough new content to justify a re-release. It's not worth re-buying if it's a straight 1:1 remake with a fresh coat of paint and minimum new content. The only reason I'm even slightly optimistic about it is that a different studio is handling it. I would expect GF to just outright remove features from it if they were doing it, as they do with the main series games. Maybe somebody else won't fuck it up so bad. Who knows.
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Alright, how about this: if this game bombs, I will change my name and profile to anything of your choosing for two months. Either way, I'll get some fun out of the game being released.
 
Nauseated Courgi said:
Alright, how about this: if this game bombs, I will change my name and profile to anything of your choosing for two months. Either way, I'll get some fun out of the game being released.
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It's not going to bomb. They can release any mediocre Pokemon game and hit insane sales targets. The fanbase is really hungry for an actual good Pokemon console game and will keep buying their crap no matter what. To be honest, I think releasing the same garbage and still making a ton of money is worse for the IP in the long run than a single bad game. It disincentivizes creative thinking and risk taking for the franchise. All the recent mainline Pokemon have been within this very narrow lane of lowest common denominator safe, familiar style. The franchise is in the state its in because they can pump out an uninspired game every year or so without any financial consequences.

I hope a different developer will be more willing to take risks and do something different with the franchise, maybe be more ambitious, add more features, and finish the game on time. Some of the side games by different developers have been really excellent.

I get why people are disappointed in the chibi toy-ified style. It can seem like a cheap cash nostalgia grab, but it can also be effective at getting players to use their imaginations if it's done well. It's not the epic adventure style a lot of people were hoping for, especially after getting disappointed by all the missed opportunities in SwSh. I'm firmly planted in the 'wait and see' camp for this remake and Legends. Not pre-ordering but not a hard no to picking it up.
 
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