Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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So the D/P remakes were outsourced to a different company while Game Freak is handling the weird experimental offshoot. Strange times we live in.

I think Legends Arceus is GF testing the waters to see if they can put out a game without worrying about the whole versions thing. I can already see the arguments as to whether it's a mainline entry or just a spin-off if only because it doesn't follow that convention.

Cautiously optimistic for these ones.
I just view it as BD and SP's very unconventional 3rd version, that or like the Orre games
 
Sinnoh Remakes looking sus
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Among Us memes are the new low-effort bait posting.

On-topic, Legends Arceus is definitely interesting. I didn't think GF would step out of their comfort zone, but here we are. Maybe the fiasco around SwSh made them realise they can't cling to their traditional release cycle anymore.
 
I said I'd get soyface when the Sinnoh remakes were announced and that's exactly what happened. They actually did it the madmen.

Part of me sort of wishes we'd got these with the Let's Go graphics/aesthetic, but at the same time, I loved the chibi graphics in the Switch version of Link's Awakening (crappy framerate notwithstanding), so I'm sure I'll enjoy this when it drops. I just hope they don't shortchange us on all the Platinum improvements/content (they probably will).

Legends Arceus I can take or leave at the moment. It looks like an interesting idea, but I'll need to see a bit more before I get really excited.
 
I wonder if modern gf will actually improve the remakes. Like do they have enough brain power to add some more fire types?

I'd welcome megas back if they remove dynashitting, but i prefer they both go. Megas are just to poorly thought out, why use any mega except Lucario or Khan?
 
Megas are just to poorly thought out, why use any mega except Lucario or Khan?
Mega evolution was an attempt to change up the pokemon battles. It made popular pokemon better and buffed the weaker pokemon (like camerupt). I think they struck gold with mega evolution and Z-moves.

If anything, they should have further fleshed out those two mechanics instead of combining them in a way that made both of them worse.
 
Mega evolution was an attempt to change up the pokemon battles. It made popular pokemon better and buffed the weaker pokemon (like camerupt). I think they struck gold with mega evolution and Z-moves.

If anything, they should have further fleshed out those two mechanics instead of combining them in a way that made both of them worse.
You know what would fix up Pokemon battles? Rewriting the code for the Game Boy-era battle system.

It is a complete joke.
 
Never heard of ILCA but...

ILCA (which stands for I Love Computer Art) was formed in 2010, and the Japanese studio has since worked on titles such as Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Yakuza 0, NieR: Automata, Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown and Dragon Quest XI, among others. Most notably, ILCA is also the studio that worked on the cloud-based Pokemon storage system Pokemon Home.

I think they are in good hands.
 
Mega evolution was an attempt to change up the pokemon battles. It made popular pokemon better and buffed the weaker pokemon (like camerupt). I think they struck gold with mega evolution and Z-moves.

If anything, they should have further fleshed out those two mechanics instead of combining them in a way that made both of them worse.

Mega evolution was their attempt to add cutable content. The roster bloat has been an issue, and they've been trying since Gen5 to add new freshness with out having to add new Pokemon. Hidden abilities were the first and the weakest. Mega Evolutions were next, temporary Evolutions that would be less painful to strip out of subsequent games than an actual full on new evolution stage. Not-actually-Pokemon Ultra Beasts were possilby the worst, and Regional forms were in my opinion the best. Then they ripped the bandaid off in Galar and didn't include everyone, as well as having Mega evolutions 2.0.

I'll probably play the Gen4 remakes if I can pick them up used for 30 bucks. I have no excitement for it. I don't want any more remakes, I'd rather they do generation homage sequels like Black and White 2(Had black and white 2 been released in like Gen 7 I think it would of been amazingly well recieved, but Gamefreak got lazy and made a half assed sequel in the same Gen). Where you revisit a region that's only slightly changed but with a different story. It also appears to be a graphical update, not a remake. I was kind of underwhelmed with that in Link's Awakening(probably less so had I not paid 60 bucks for it). It seems like we're getting absolutely no new content. No new Pokemon, no Pokemon past Gen 4, no regional variants, we'll probably be lucky if we get a better selection of wild pokemon in Gen4(the only thing Diamond and Pearl needs in a remake and they got it fixed in Platinum). I'm kinda talking myself out of this game as I go.

Legends is a very wait and see. It looks like it's very incomplete for about a year out from release. If it's just exploration and catching wild pokemon around a single town with no trainer battles... I'll probably pass.

Snap looks fantastic though, I canna wait.
 
Honestly I think I would be more excited if this situation was the other way around.

I've always wanted an open world pokemon game but I don't thrust Gamefreak with being able to pull it off, however I would thrust an external party.

My hope here is for GF's game to turn out like shit and the externally developed remake to overtake it in sales, I feel that would finally shake up management and cause the big N to consider outsourcing the license to companies that give a shit.
 
Honestly I think I would be more excited if this situation was the other way around.

I've always wanted an open world pokemon game but I don't thrust Gamefreak with being able to pull it off, however I would thrust an external party.

My hope here is for GF's game to turn out like shit and the externally developed remake to overtake it in sales, I feel that would finally shake up management and cause the big N to consider outsourcing the license to companies that give a shit.

The D/P remake being a huge success would be the worst thing ever. It appears to be the lowest effort put into a Pokemon game. Unless more interesting news get revealed, it is just a graphic upscaled port.
 
I feel that would finally shake up management and cause the big N to consider outsourcing the license to companies that give a shit.

They cannot do that without Game Freak's permission. Game Freak has partial rights to the series, and the company itself does not belong to Nintendo(which is why they have released non-Pokemon games on non-Nintendo systems)
 
I would really like them to incorporate the manaphy egg in the games some how. IIRC that was the only unique egg ever, and it was in gen 4. It should get a nod.
 
The D/P remake being a huge success would be the worst thing ever. It appears to be the lowest effort put into a Pokemon game. Unless more interesting news get revealed, it is just a graphic upscaled port.
I absolutely agree. When people said they wanted a D/P remake, they were probably meaning that they wanted something that rebuilt the region from scratch; for example, the environments all being updated and playing similarly to Sun and Moon, albeit far less linear, and the character models being upscaled.
I'm sure they didn't mean "just D/P but with 3D models."
If Square Enix is able to remake their games like this:
Then TPC and Game Freak should have no issue achieving a similar result.
 
I absolutely agree. When people said they wanted a D/P remake, they were probably meaning that they wanted something that rebuilt the region from scratch; for example, the environments all being updated and playing similarly to Sun and Moon, albeit far less linear, and the character models being upscaled.
I'm sure they didn't mean "just D/P but with 3D models."
If Square Enix is able to remake their games like this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HeTBgDpnEI4Then TPC and Game Freak should have no issue achieving a similar result.
Time Jannies in Legends Arceus when?
 
I absolutely agree. When people said they wanted a D/P remake, they were probably meaning that they wanted something that rebuilt the region from scratch; for example, the environments all being updated and playing similarly to Sun and Moon, albeit far less linear, and the character models being upscaled.
I'm sure they didn't mean "just D/P but with 3D models."
If Square Enix is able to remake their games like this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HeTBgDpnEI4Then TPC and Game Freak should have no issue achieving a similar result.
D/P sucked anyway. I only got it because my friends did, and without peer pressure I'd have been done with Pokemon a decade earlier.
 
Wowee these look bad.

The open world thing looks like Pokemon are modded into it, and yet again the graphics are uncanny.

Diamond and Pearl is just "we want the people dumb enough to buy a gameboy game for $60 to buy this too" and I'm already seeing people spilling their spaghetti-covered funkopops over it. Christ.
 
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I’m undecided on the D/P remakes but the new Snap game looks really fun. Snap would be perfect for DLC later down the line. New islands with different Pokémon, new camera filters, car upgrades/customization etc etc.

Now if we could get a decent stadium style game that would be fantastic, but I’m not about to hold my breath.
 
Mega evolution was their attempt to add cutable content. The roster bloat has been an issue, and they've been trying since Gen5 to add new freshness with out having to add new Pokemon. Hidden abilities were the first and the weakest. Mega Evolutions were next, temporary Evolutions that would be less painful to strip out of subsequent games than an actual full on new evolution stage. Not-actually-Pokemon Ultra Beasts were possilby the worst, and Regional forms were in my opinion the best. Then they ripped the bandaid off in Galar and didn't include
If that's the case, then why is it that HA, Ultra beast and regional variants are the features that stuck, but mega's and Z-moves get shafted in favor of G-maxing (which is essentially both of them in one)? They had no reason to do so when the mechanics prior were doing just fine.

Ultra beast are really just a subcategory of legendary, so that's still them changing things up by adding more pokemon and it's not like Regional variants helped the "bloat problem".
 
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