Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Canned Bread said:
No idea why they thought devoting an entire stream to a MOBA to a fanbase that consists of mostly casual players who don't care about them would be a good idea. This is Diablo Immortal levels of misunderstanding your target audience.

That being said, the game looks alright I guess, although I'm not too much of a fan of MOBAs honestly.
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Same. It could probably be an okay time waster. Although, I don't much about Tencent, but from what I heard their involvement isn't going to help it.
 
Fandom Trash said:
My expectations were already low, and I'm still disappointed.

Its a good idea on paper, but most fans (at least the Western ones) would have rather a Sinnoh remake or a remastered Pokemon Stadium or Coliseum.

Who exactly will play this?
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It seems to be little more than a pretty mediocre MOBA. Hardcore MOBA players are just going to stick with LoL/DOTA/SMITE, and casual players don't seem to like MOBA-style gameplay at all, so this game seems to have a very small target audience, if any target audience at all.
 
Fandom Trash said:
or a remastered Pokemon Stadium or Coliseum.
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Never gonna happen. They haven't released anything "Stadium," related since Battle Revolution for the Wii, which was only compatible with D/P/P games. B/W/B2/W2 didn't even get it's own "stadium" related game. And considering all the Pokemon games have been 3D since X/Y, not to mention we're no longer in a day and age where people are still using transfer/game packs to use their own pokemon to play other people, I don't think there's a point into making any "stadium" related game unless they go with the "original story" route like they did with Gale Of Darkness for the GameCube.

Also those games were developed by other companies (HAL & Genius Sonority Inc.). If they gave another company the go-ahead to develop another "stadium" game, it would have to be a company that would put in the same amount of effort as current-year GameFreak. Stadium through Battle Revolution had so many animations for different moves and the pokemon themselves were more animated and had an actual fucking personality. GameFreak would NEVER approve of that shit in this day and age.
 
SSF2T Old User said:
Never gonna happen. They haven't released anything "Stadium," related since Battle Revolution for the Wii, which was only compatible with D/P/P games. B/W/B2/W2 didn't even get it's own "stadium" related game. And considering all the Pokemon games have been 3D since X/Y, not to mention we're no longer in a day and age where people are still using transfer/game packs to use their own pokemon to play other people, I don't think there's a point into making any "stadium" related game unless they go with the "original story" route like they did with Gale Of Darkness for the GameCube.

Also those games were developed by other companies (HAL & Genius Sonority Inc.). If they gave another company the go-ahead to develop another "stadium" game, it would have to be a company that would put in the same amount of effort as current-year GameFreak. Stadium through Battle Revolution had so many animations for different moves and the pokemon themselves were more animated and had an actual fucking personality. GameFreak would NEVER approve of that shit in this day and age.
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Figured as much. I have forgotten that the games were created by another company.
One that gave more life to the Pokemon and their moves then what Nintendo could ever hope to do.

Eh. I could dream, right?

Maybe its a good thing there isn't a Sinnoh remake yet. Seeing the disaster that is Sword and Shield and what it could have been--it makes me sad. :(
 
So, now that we know Nintendo is working with Tencent, it makes sense why they broke and made a Black Lives Matter statement.
 
Man they really dont know their audience anymore, do they? Then need to focus on what fans are asking for, rather than this, pokemon sleep or... whatever the other shit they're peddling is. It's really embarrassing for them and just drives the wedge that much deeper into the series. People will still buy it, but clearly they're hurting for ideas.
 
Remember the recent statement from Nintendo about how they're going to start withdrawing their mobile efforts? If only TPC said the same thing...
 
Holy shit these animations are jank, even League of Legends which is a game built on the foundation of awful spaghetti from 2009 has AAA quality animations compared to this. MOBAs are annoying to play not because of their mechanics, but because of the communities that surround them. Every MOBA community is full of tard raging babies that don't know how to shut the fuck up in a game where you're forced to work together to accomplish basically anything.

Why you'd want to pair that culture with Pokemon is beyond me. Can't wait for some neckbeard MLG gamer to run it down mid as Snorlax because Pikachu didn't gank his lane.


ChucklesTheJester said:
Thats a girl right? But the name makes it out to be a male.
According to the first hit on google it's a guy.
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Why must gaming be plagued with so many traps.
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Sneaky is male, iirc this whole trap thing started because he cosplayed a female character in League who had a pizza delivery girl skin as a joke for a twitter picture, and he got super popular off that because he was super convincing without really trying. So he started taking it more seriously and made more elaborate cosplays to play on stream like the one you see in that picture.
 
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I'm perfectly fine with not announcing a Sinnoh remake this early especially they are still working on the DLCs for Sword/Shield. The last thing we really need is to rush a Sinnoh remake ala Sw/Sh again.

But still... just why? The big project turned out to be this? Is this a late April Fools joke?
 
José Mourinho said:
I'm perfectly fine with not announcing a Sinnoh remake this early especially they are still working on the DLCs for Sword/Shield. The last thing we really need is to rush a Sinnoh remake ala Sw/Sh again.

But still... just why? The big project turned out to be this? Is this a late April Fools joke?
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I'm more confused why not just reveal this along side the other games, why space it out like this? Why give it like 11 minutes? why not just shadow drop the trailer?
I still maintain Pokemon's biggest threat will always be it's marketing team, but this whole thing is confusing even for me
 
Disc said:
So there's been a bunch of datamined stuff about the Crown Tundra. It appears that the two were being made at the same time.

First, the full list of returning mons:
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No Johto starters, into to the trash it goes. I already own it, but it still deserves the trash.
URL said:
At least it wasn't a Let's Go game, right? :optimistic:
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Another Let's Go remake would have at least had a nicely remixed soundtrack. I haven't touched Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee yet and I still throw the soundtrack on repeat when I'm in a VG Music mood.
Syikeblade said:
What's bad about Tencent besides being a Chinese company?
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Their games are generally shallow, pay-to-win, and focused on poaching whales over actual gameplay. Hopefully Nintendo will keep them on a tight leash with monetization, but I'll believe it when I see it. Both Pokemon and Tenecent have a habit of dumping games if they're no longer profitable, so it won't last long if it isn't successful.
 
Syikeblade said:
What's bad about Tencent besides being a Chinese company?
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In this case the game is designed with a Chinese mindset, considering it's a MOBA which is very popular in Asia as a whole (You only gotta look at League to see that). Add in Nintendo's "Pay to Start" garbage and what @Jean Lafitte 1812 said, you have a cash grab using a popular IP that will get kids to empty their parents wallets that will easily be dropped if it doesn't meet sales quota. Let alone the wailords who will be playing due to their lack of self control.

It's funny they're doing this hot off the heels of Nintendo realizing their properties (Except Pocket Camp) are costing them money compared to the lucrative console gaming market they have (Also in part due to AC: New Horizons sales).

I'm more so worried, about Tencent being involved with a more console family focused company like TPCI over anything. Their influence in the gaming field (Epic, Blizzard, Riot, Ubisoft), means they'll keep pushing for more.
 
So they're gonna deny us a Pokemon MMO but thought a MOBA would win non-Asians over? Is that the gist of it?

And does Sinnoh really need a remake, honestly? They'd have to bring back the Underground if they did, but they might make that through Switch Online or something. So other than that and making the Azure Flute event actually legal to do, what could they really do with it?
 
Kari Kamiya said:
So they're gonna deny us a Pokemon MMO but thought a MOBA would win non-Asians over? Is that the gist of it?

And does Sinnoh really need a remake, honestly? They'd have to bring back the Underground if they did, but they might make that through Switch Online or something. So other than that and making the Azure Flute event actually legal to do, what could they really do with it?
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Mobile MOBA's are getting massive in the east block, thanks to the groundwork laid by DOTA and LOL, making a pokemon MOBA makes perfect sence since Pokemon already has a long standing e-sport scene and infrastructure, it won't cost anything to add another game to the scene, and Tencent has so many MOBA engines and dev tools that the dev cost for this game was prolly paid out of the CEO couch lost money, this thing is going to make a profit even if it fails, and also MMO's are a very hard sell, nobody plays those anymore and the dev cost is MASSIVE for very little to no profit because everyone just rather play already stablished long standing MMO's.
On the topic of gen 4 remakes i rather not, after seeing gen 7 and 8 main games im fully convinced any remakes at this point are going to be absolutely fucking awful, i rather them just keep pumping spin offs by different studios rather than hand any more money to gamefreak
 
Kari Kamiya said:
So they're gonna deny us a Pokemon MMO but thought a MOBA would win non-Asians over? Is that the gist of it?

And does Sinnoh really need a remake, honestly? They'd have to bring back the Underground if they did, but they might make that through Switch Online or something. So other than that and making the Azure Flute event actually legal to do, what could they really do with it?
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I think some would like to see the characters in a new light. In addition to them probably expanding upon the story of the world similar to what they did with R/S/E.
 
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