Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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I'm working on my Gen 3 Living Dex right now so I can get the Johto starters instantly on Emerald once I can connect it to Pokémon Box (you need to beat the game and have a Dex of 100 caught). Yes, I'm playing Emerald 3 times for them but I'm collecting for my HG Dex too so the next run is for that and then I'll have all three. I've played Gen 3 to death and I'm very bored of it now but I want the starters more than I want to stop playing.
I'm thinking of attempting the Pomeg Corruption glitch to get Mew, Celebi and Deoxys but that might be a bit risky.
 
Disc said:
It's the same as the TemTems people from a few pages back. They're not there because of straight-up interest, they're trying to 'spite' game freak.
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Kari Kamiya said:
Yeah, to them, I say, "Fuck off, posers, we're full, and Renamon was only in Tamers. Get your furry fix elsewhere."
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These two right here. I'm glad digimon didn't become as popular as pokemon is because they've kinda done their own thing and made some cool designs for 'mons and apart from people who're part of the SJW crowd who like digimon it's been a fairly chill fanbase for the most part. I dread what's going to happen if people start hate-joining from pokemon it'll ruin everything and I don't particularly want people gatekeeping one of the last franchises I don't feel completely jaded about.
 
Coelacanth said:
I don't particularly want people gatekeeping one of the last franchises I don't feel completely jaded about.
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I don't get why people hate gatekeeping. Whenever you let bad people into groups, communities and fandoms, it brings down that group or give the once peaceful atmosphere an unlikable state. This then affects people that was in before and outsiders will treat them like the louder and worse members.

Just look at the comics industry for a large-scale example. If salty Pokémon fans go to Digimon, tell them to be nice or go to TemTem.
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
At least for American viewers, I believe it peaked in May of 2001, because that was when the second season ended. Tamers aired not long afterwards in September, but because it didn't star the original cast (and also Tai didn't end up with Sora, hoo boy), a lot of kids lost interest, and Yu-Gi-Oh! would come out weeks later and took in that audience. Which is funny because Tamers is usually like number one or two in terms of the best Digimon season, but it being "different" was what killed interest for a lot of kids. Then Disney bought the IP (I want to say mid-season? It had a channel jump, least for me) and Frontier wasn't as widely-watched as Tamers, and that was the trend.

So while it's still pretty big in Japan (with a new movie on the way because the merchandise sells well), and the games sell fine, Digimon has never been as big and popular as Pokemon in the West. That's why a sudden influx of new "fans" as a result of Pokefags jumping ship over SwSh makes me leery.
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I vaguely remember Digimon being somewhat popular. I was in the fourth grade and I remember a girl on Valentine's Day 2002 had Digimon valentines.
Of course right after that Yu-Gi-Oh came and swept everything away. Then Pokemon came back.

Several years later Naruto and Bleach would take over.
 
MightyBiteySnake said:
Late to the "favorite type" discussion, but I've always been really into Normal, Dark, Water and Dragon types. In general I think these are just some of the types that stay the most consistent with their design quality over the years. In particular, I've always loved the Slowpoke family, Azumarill, Murkrow, Ursaring and so on. Retroactively I guess fairy fits in there since they stuffed my man Clefable in there.

And in terms of the nerfs across the board? Including the Dex and move limits? Good. The only things I really miss are Slowbro, Azu, and pursuit. Imo hidden power lost its luster after gen 3 when the physical/special split made it special only, since it created an interesting limitation in terms of what types you wanted to use in what mons. Seeing heatran and Landorus-T every game was getting boring. It was getting even more boring when Landos starting running Hp Ice... To beat other Landos.
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I've always been a fan of Steel type, though Ghost, Rock, Dragon, Flying, and Fire are still up there. Steel is a great defensive type even after the change in interaction with Ghost and Dark Type. While not every Steel-type design in a winner, a lot of Steel type Pokemon have top notch designs. Aggron, Scizor, and Bisharp are my personal favorites in the type.

I'm no fan of dexit, but a fresh meta is always a good thing. I remember the Gen VI meta being dominated by Talonflame because the Gale Wings/Brave Bird/Roost combo was superior to almost every other offensive flying type. Pair that with STAB Fire type coverage and Talonflame was bound to be on everybody's team. I never liked the Gen V genies and hated dealing with Lando in online matches. While personally I like Heatran, I've always felt a bit odd bringing any legendary aside from the Legendary Birds and Beasts into a competition. Atricuno/Zapdos/Moltres and Entei/Raikou/Suicune all have considerable weaknesses and their combined stats totals aren't game breaking. The most cancerous thing I've done with legendaries was my doubles strategy of Ragepowder Tangela/Follow Me Clefable paired with my Sheer Cold/Mind Reader Articuno, but I liked saving that for shitpost battles with my brother.
 
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jellycar said:
I vaguely remember Digimon being somewhat popular. I was in the fourth grade and I remember a girl on Valentine's Day 2002 had Digimon valentines.
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Weird, then, because I never knew anyone else at school who liked Digimon besides me, and I vaguely remember some weird-ass science fair(?) project about Pokemon vs. Digimon that I didn't get a good look at. It might be because I never lived in a large urban area given other online fans have told me they had friends at school who watched it with them, or the playground wars silenced a lot of fans, but I just never came across another fan in person. It came up in passing once in high school, but they all admitted they had stopped watching it after or before the second season ended and that's what they most remembered.

It was pretty lonely at times ngl. The Internet was a godsend in that regard, but it was rather eye-opening to see just how pissy fans have been over it (mainly over Tai and Sora not getting together, and that's not getting into the other ship wars), and it's still there some twenty years later. I stopped checking out Tumblr tags, With the Will forums and the like a year ago, so I can't imagine what those gatekeepers coming face-to-face with the spiteful Pokemon refugees are going to be like.
 
I also stopped reading the Digimon subreddit after finding out the admin of WtW is a mod there. The guy has a severe attitude problem and is just downright insulting to people. Someone on Reddit was speculating a certain part of the new Digimon movie trailer with thier own well typed out theories and he just responded with a rather rude response. He also got into a slapfight with someone on WtW over how Omegamon MM was formed in Tri and would shut down any criticism of the movie itself. He kind of reminds me of Serebii with all the Adventure shilling.

Honestly smaller fandoms are worse when it comes to BNFs. Most of the time its one person that takes over a good majority of the communities and they have no competition from other fans. At least with the Pokemon fandom the community is big enough for multiple BNFs to make their own groups and compete with each other over delivering content.

Digimon does have its fair share of SJWs, but mostly it is just them shitting themselves over the fanservice designs of Cyber Sleuth. Including people having actual nervous breakdowns over Eater Eve’s design (which I agree really doesn’t belong in a Digimon game and is in very poor taste but nothing to have a stroke over.)

Back to Pokemon I finally got to route ten and I am honestly glad the game is as short as it is. It feels like an absolute slog and I really hate that the main character is pushed away from the actual plot. If GF is going to make a plot focused game at least let us participate in it fully. It makes the cutscenes and the linear design even more pointless than it is.
 
SnowBall said:
If GF is going to make a plot focused game at least let us participate in it fully. It makes the cutscenes and the linear design even more pointless than it is.
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or at least make the story actually good or something, IDK how but they made baby's first pokemon out of a series that was already joked about being baby's first jrpg, bravo game freak.
 
SnowBall said:
Back to Pokemon I finally got to route ten and I am honestly glad the game is as short as it is. It feels like an absolute slog and I really hate that the main character is pushed away from the actual plot. If GF is going to make a plot focused game at least let us participate in it fully. It makes the cutscenes and the linear design even more pointless than it is.
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I'm just about to enter the final gym on my second file, and short is right. I looked at my play time and it's 20 hours, but that's only because of the Wild Area. I spent countless hours there just because of TRs and getting some mons earlier than usual thanks to raid dens (I got a Falinks for my team a couple gyms ahead of when you can get one normally for example). That and my autistic obsession with trying to get decent party members with stats, abilities and natures.

If you don't bother with the Wild Area and just use the first mons you catch wherever, you could easily beat this game in about 10 hours or less. Even moreso if you spam the EXP candies to have your mons OHKO everything in their path.

On a positive note though, I got a shiny Dugtrio with its hidden ability in a 4 star den (HAs are even rarer to get with that many stars so it was extra lucky), and found out that shiny mons in raids are locked to stay that way as it wiped me on the first attempt.
 
Got shield as a gift today, I've had to restart it twice now because I just completely zoned out, granted I was busy with the holiday so I wouldn't have been able to focus anyways. I went with sobble but I want to use Drednaw so I deleted that save. But then I remember that I like lizards so I guess I'll get sobble again and just use both???

It is super difficult to sit and read this dialogue regardless tho.
 
Gigantamax is easily the shittiest implementation of a battle mechanic in the IP's history. You can't use all but a couple of them during the story due to how most are only accessible through 5 star raid dens, only mons from Gigantamax dens specifically can achieve those forms (so your beloved Corviknight you've had by your side since Route 1 will never be able to), on a competitive level they are inferior to Dynamax in just about every way, and even the game itself discourages you from using them as they aren't allowed in online ranked mode yet Dynamax still is.
 
I forgot mention this before, but you know that option they added where you can skip cutscenes? I had that on during the entire second playthrough and guess what, it barely fucking worked. It skipped maybe 5 cutscenes tops, none of them including the 200 times the game stops you dead in your tracks to handhold you to hell.

In fact, after it skips Rose's big Eggman's Announcement bit, nothing is skipped afterwards. The whole Eternatus "arc", all the post-game monotony with Dildo Hair and Mantle Head, all of that's still intact. They couldn't even get an option added to address a complaint from the last game to work the way it's supposed to. Why am I not surprised...
 
I was relieved that my Raboot was still able to level up to 26 even though my current badge only allowed me to catch up to level 25 - wasted EXP would have been the one thing that would have ruined the whole game for me.
 
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I was relieved that my Raboot was still able to level up to 26 even though my current badge only allowed me to catch up to level 25 - wasted EXP would have been the one thing that would have ruined the whole game for me.
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Yeah, when I noticed that the badges still have the "Pokemon up to level X will obey this trainer", that wave of relief washed over me. While I still think that's about traded Pokemon and that even if my Pokemon were to go up a little bit higher than the badge dictates, they won't suddenly disobey, my biggest concern was the thought this "level-capping" was a thing. I still think it's really weird that it's wild Pokemon you have a cap on for when you're allowed to catch it, but I actually haven't been all that bothered by it.
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
I forgot mention this before, but you know that option they added where you can skip cutscenes? I had that on during the entire second playthrough and guess what, it barely fucking worked. It skipped maybe 5 cutscenes tops, none of them including the 200 times the game stops you dead in your tracks to handhold you to hell.
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I don't get why game freak seems to think when everyone complains about the game stopping them in their tracks every 10 seconds they think its the pre renders and not the copious amount of dialog they force players to read.
 
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