Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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He's talking about lighting so the only thing they would need to probably change is transparencies. Depending on what engine you're using and how post processing may be different, you may need to switch the colors of black and white. Some programs read black as transparent other read white as transparent.

More likely would be converting them to some pbr lighting model (the newish big thing) but that’s not really an issue beyond baby’s first batch texture conversion and maybe a few minutes per model to tweak levels.
 
Made it to the Wild Area, and.... eh. It's spacious, I suppose. I don't exactly know what the Watts will buy me from the random trainers there, but I'm not all that interested for the time being. I was more interested in fishing, and I think if I can't find myself a Wooper any time soon, I'll be sticking with Shellder as my Water-type (I have a Magikarp, but it's more for the PokeDex than for my team). I did notice that there was a Frillish that showed up in the background, and it would pause every time I fished. I guess I shouldn't be too surprise, but it was still odd to see. Practically when I first stepped into the Wild Area, I came across a note saying "If you run into a big scary Pokemon, run like the wind!" and I went "lol wut", and.... level 26 Onix. Highest was my Grookey at 12.

I had more fun putting together the League Card, though. Cute idea, will definitely need to be updated when I get around to upgrading the player's appearance. But man, do you always get interrupted/treated like a newbie every time you enter into a new area/city? That's getting old real fast.
 
You know, the game is scuffed and phoned-in in a number of ways but I want to give credit where credit is due: I really do appreciate that the pool of pokemon you can get before the first gym is huge and I'm pretty sure it includes every type but Steel and Dragon.
 
You know, the game is scuffed and phoned-in in a number of ways but I want to give credit where credit is due: I really do appreciate that the pool of pokemon you can get before the first gym is huge and I'm pretty sure it includes every type but Steel and Dragon.

You can get a Klink, maybe a Pawniard (I saw a Bisharp and usually there are pre-evolutions in the grass of the fully evolved walking out in the open), and I'm pretty sure I saw a Noibat.

Edit: Bronzor too for sure before first gym(that's where I'm at currently)
 
I've been musing about something. First of all, I'm 100% convinced SWSH was a 3DS game shoddily ported to Switch halfway through development. Just compare the music between it and Let's Go. LG has a graceful orchestral score that one would come to expect from an HD Pokemon game, but SWSH has weirdly compressed synth pieces that sound like they came from a DS system and just thrown on a console. That and the further evidence that TPC had no faith in the Switch before it made a name for itself. And that's before getting into all the obvious graphical issues.

But anyway, if that is indeed the case I can't help but wonder, why? Why did this not just stay on the 3DS? The first and seemingly obvious answer would be because the 3DS was dying but, this wouldn't have been the first time they made a game for a system who's successor was already on store shelves. That and it's Pokemon, people happily would continue to play an outdated system solely for it. So the hasty ship-jumping decision is rather puzzling. Did Nintendo force their hand? Did TPC? It's such a baffling case to think about.
 
but SWSH has weirdly compressed synth pieces that sound like they came from a DS system and just thrown on a console.
The compositions are borderline experimental in how weird they are, I always like how they start out but then within 20 minutes of the track it all starts to become tangled like a bunch of wires relegated to an untouched box. It doesn't really work for the type of game Pokemon is since they all just mix into being generic due to that entanglement.
But man, do you always get interrupted/treated like a newbie every time you enter into a new area/city? That's getting old real fast.
yeah that's how the game is structured from what I have seen, it's very similar to how Sun and Moon stopped you every 5 minutes for some scenes.
addendum:
hope you guys playing don't have a roku https://www.reddit.com/r/Roku/comments/dx0lem/my_insignia_roku_tv_is_stuck_in_a_boot_loop/
guess the constant wifi connection is a cluster fuck or something since people are saying it happens to no other game
 
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The compositions are borderline experimental in how weird they are, I always like how they start out but then within 20 minutes of the track it all starts to become tangled like a bunch of wires relegated to an untouched box. It doesn't really work for the type of game Pokemon is since they all just mix into being generic due to that entanglement.

yeah that's how the game is structured from what I have seen, it's very similar to how Sun and Moon stopped you every 5 minutes for some scenes.
addendum:
hope you guys playing don't have a roku https://www.reddit.com/r/Roku/comments/dx0lem/my_insignia_roku_tv_is_stuck_in_a_boot_loop/
guess the constant wifi connection is a cluster fuck or something since people are saying it happens to no other game

Its strict attempts at forcing local wireless over even wired connection make it stick out as a possible 3DS port/initial design.
 
Its strict attempts at forcing local wireless over even wired connection make it stick out as a possible 3DS port/initial design.
There's a point at which when enough errors occur its the fault of the product
yeah technically the switch's OS and possibly the Roku's but it says something to me when Gen 8 causes this to happen again for the switch and somehow is the only game that does this to a Roku on switch.
I'm not trying to say it's 100% GF's fault this shit happens, hell for the switch it could be mostly nintendos fault, but maybe they should realize that a lot of the coding or game decisions they do aren't used often for a reason.
 
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There's a point at which when enough errors occur its the fault of the product
yeah technically the switch's OS and possibly the Roku's but it says something to me when Gen 8 causes this to happen again for the switch and somehow is the only game that does this to a Roku on switch.
I'm not trying to say it's 100% GF's fault this shit happens, hell for the switch it could be mostly nintendos fault, but maybe they should realize that a lot of the coding or game decisions they do aren't used often for a reason.

There's more to your source there man, and more that it has to be Roku's fault because of a few things:

"It seems the cause of my issue was my Nintendo Switch being on."

Apparently Roku sent out an update that's causing it: "It’s a software issue. Roku sent out an update to devices today and it’s a bug. I talked with tech support and they think they’ll have a fix in one or two days. Which is pretty ridiculous, they should test their updates better before forcing them out. "

That's from the user from the page you linked.
alecjames27

Maybe read more of the posts to get a bit more context man, cause at this point, it seems like you're willing to just jump on ANYTHING that gives a hint that the games are bad and you don't really have much of an excuse since the post was made 8 hours ago.
 
There's more to your source there man, and more that it has to be Roku's fault because of a few things:

"It seems the cause of my issue was my Nintendo Switch being on."

Apparently Roku sent out an update that's causing it: "It’s a software issue. Roku sent out an update to devices today and it’s a bug. I talked with tech support and they think they’ll have a fix in one or two days. Which is pretty ridiculous, they should test their updates better before forcing them out. "

That's from the user from the page you linked.
alecjames27

Maybe read more of the posts to get a bit more context man, cause at this point, it seems like you're willing to just jump on ANYTHING that gives a hint that the games are bad.
Ah thanks for the correction man, sorry for not being thorough
 
Ah thanks for the correction man, sorry for not being thorough

No worries, I understand that this is the griefing thread now, but I'm the kind of guy who doesn't wanna leave stones unturn, ya know what I mean?

In any case, my girlfriend's obsessed with the game - She even told me "... Hun, if Melony was real, I'd drop you in a second."

... Ouch for me
 
No worries, I understand that this is the griefing thread now, but I'm the kind of guy who doesn't wanna leave stones unturn, ya know what I mean?
Yeah I get you it's just at this point with Game Freak's, how do I put this, "reputation" with optimizing with the 3ds and the sudden spike of this shit at the same time the games release with models new and old it's a bit bizarre. part of it might be the addition of new switches being bought but apparently some old ones are as well so IDK.
As I said I want to think its just faulty switches but the timing is too weird to me, like there's a bit of an itch there of something.
To be honest I just want to move on the next set of games just to see what after all this drama, since I have to assume Game Freak or TPC is probably paying attention to the shit storm in some way. They did after lets go and gen 5 after all, and will probably try to do something next gen or at the very least make something like BW2 and take all the good parts of SWSH and try to address what everyone didn't.
In any case, my girlfriend's obsessed with the game - She even told me "... Hun, if Melony was real, I'd drop you in a second."

... Ouch for me
Jesus that burn was so damaging I feel it second hand
 
No worries, I understand that this is the griefing thread now, but I'm the kind of guy who doesn't wanna leave stones unturn, ya know what I mean?

In any case, my girlfriend's obsessed with the game - She even told me "... Hun, if Melony was real, I'd drop you in a second."

... Ouch for me
To quote the Bogdanoffs, "DUMP EET"
 
Speaking of small indie studios, are there any pokemon/SMT clones that are worth giving a shit about? It feels like what I really want out of Pokemon (huge spritebased plotless collectathon with cool extras that support the combat mechanics to kill time during commutes) would be something easily produceable with a couple programmers and a decent art team. I've seen several hacks that basically disembowel the inside of the GB game to make something new and replace most of the art, it doesn't seem like a huge stretch to expect one of those teams to make something novel and marketable.

The closest I can think of is Siralim and that's a bit too grognardy for my tastes.
 
Speaking of small indie studios, are there any pokemon/SMT clones that are worth giving a shit about? It feels like what I really want out of Pokemon (huge spritebased plotless collectathon with cool extras that support the combat mechanics to kill time during commutes) would be something easily produceable with a couple programmers and a decent art team. I've seen several hacks that basically disembowel the inside of the GB game to make something new and replace most of the art, it doesn't seem like a huge stretch to expect one of those teams to make something novel and marketable.

The closest I can think of is Siralim and that's a bit too grognardy for my tastes.
The problem why it seems there is a lack of indie RPG capturing games is that they are built off of RPG maker alot of the time, and trying to modify RPG maker can get pretty messy sometimes. I'm sure its possible and probably has some instances but its rare none the less. Plus even making 50 designs must be hard for a small project like that to get right without really feeling derivative or half assed.
though I have heard that rpg maker does have a pokemon essentials thing associated with it so I wonder what a game like that with heavily modified code and features would be like
 
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What changes did they make? Did they make it so you don't have to sit there listening to a little ditty for half a minute every time you accomplish some triviality? Because that's why I stopped playing it, they didn't do that to you in 9, or if they did they did a much better job of it.
Sadly that is still in, not as bad as Builders, though.

As to Pokemon, I saw one glitch (trainer just pops into existence after she should have already been on camera) but thats minor. I am enjoying the game so far, shame it couldn't have been EVEN BETTER though and a little worried that it might glitch out.
 
It would absolutely ruin GF if they made a big so fucked up like ZZAZZ from Gen 1

I doubt anything can ruin them. The obsession for Pokemon is way too strong. Hell even I'm still resisting the urge to buy the game. I know the formula works so the games probably still fun, I just don't want to promote how much they've neutered with the 50% higher price tag. I'm amazed how many people don't care for the adventure. I liked seeing and exploring the new areas like the caves, power plant, ruins, underwater etc.

I'll probably end up grabbing it used at this point.
 
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