Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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And on a shitposty note, apparently the game's bad word filter doesn't work if you put another word in front of the restricted word.
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Shit, that alone makes me want to get the game...once it goes down in price of course. Which might not take as long as usual if this back-lash is anything to consider. I've been a long-time Pokemon and have played all the Pokemon games, but ever since Gen 5 I've usually gotten them used months or even years after the fact, I felt a little bad about waiting so long to play Pokemon W&B, but I don't think that will be the case this time. The way I see it, I'm not supporting these f'd up practices by buying it for $15 dollars used at my local game shop six months from now.
 
I'd like to point out that VP has already pointed that some of the bricked issues are possibly not the game's fault, https://boards.4channel.org/vp/thread/41205392#p41206988

But the hardware's fault.

And this has been an issue since 2017, https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22628/~/solid-color-on-screen

So it might not essentially be the games' fault in that regard.

Granted, I'm not too tech savvy in that regard, but at the very least we shouldn't immediately pour all the gasoline on to GF when this has been an issue since near the switch's inception. Again, maybe I'm wrong on this, but I'd rather not dive head first into the shallow end of a pool.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ht647dlGu_c
My only issue with that theory is that this hasn't really shown up again since 2017, after the launch the switch was pretty stable for physical copys at least. To my knowledge this shit really didn't happen with other big game releases since then (Smash for example had the parahna plant issue, but not the hardware bug outs nor deleting game data outside of smash bros') so I don't think it's purely hardware, Most likely its a bit of column A, a bit of column B
see: https://twitter.com/sciresm/status/1195341413484883969?s=21
I assume that the retail/internal shit work off a crazier version of the SD issues Sciresm describes here since yeah hardware failure is an explanation but why did the switch not crap out earlier then?
 
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My only issue with that theory is that this hasn't really shown up again since 2017, after the launch the switch was pretty stable for physical copys at least. To my knowledge this shit really didn't happen with other big game releases since then (Smash for example had the parahna plant issue, but not the hardware bug outs nor deleting game data outside of smash bros') so I don't think it's purely hardware, Most likely its a bit of column A, a bit of column B
see: https://twitter.com/sciresm/status/1195341413484883969?s=21
I assume that the retail/internals work off a crazier version of the SD issues Sciresm describes here

Case of it happening in 2018

Another here:


and here (this one after upgrading the system):


And here:

While it hasn't shown up to a large scale, it has happened in individual cases.

Again, there could be many other factors at play here - I'm not claiming one way or the other, but other people are - So, like I said - I don't think it's fair to put the whole blame on GF for this one. Heck, for all we know this could be a bug that Nintendo slipped through their fingers because the programming did something they didn't test for. Nintendo ain't perfect people.
 
(on a separate SD card)
If it fucks with your nand a new sd card won't help.
This circle jerk is off the hook. Switches and it's joycons have been glitchy since launch. Now anytime something goes haywire, Pokemon is getting blamed. The issue has to do with how SD cards are formatted and how the system reads it. This isn't it the first time this issue has happened. So I get it, circle jerks feel good, but GameFreak can only code so well and want to do so much. Nintendo has acknowledged this in the past, it isn't new, and it isn't GameFreaks fault.
No game has fucked with your nand before, the fuck are you talking about? You know what, I don't even care, this is the pokemon griefing thread, not the 'game freak did their best you guys, I gotta step in here and defend the multi billion dollar corporation on this, you guys are just having a circlejerk ' thread. That thread is called twitter.
 
Nintendo is going to need to learn how to make proper hardware as well as keeping their studios in check. Having an exclusive made by a first party and having it explode like a bomb really only happens if you're very poorly managed.

They cut corners with the Switch's design because they had to rush to get shit out because the wii-u failed. Now in less than year the switch is going to need to go up against the playstation 5, people will still be talking about pokemon seppekuing shit a year later. This is probably going to wind up being a bigger black eye than fallout 76.
 
So we're now looking through the game to see how it goes for us, starting with Shield. My brother named himself "willywob", which is probably the best part thus far.

The opening cutscene really is so fucking awkward, like man, they missed the boat by not giving it voiceovers. Also can you really skip cutscenes with the "skip movies" option or is that about something else?
 
To be honest this actually makes it worse, in my opinion. Nintendo knew about a similar problem before and did nothing to patch it. Counterfeit SD cards are incredibly common. Most people aren't even aware that their card isn't legit until it has some kind of catastrophic problem, and frankly, there's no reason to suspect a counterfeit card if it's worked for every other game fine up until this one. Fake cards are common enough that Nintendo should have patched this issue, and Game Freak should have tested for this. So many things about this game feel rushed, half-half baked, and untested.

Everyone expects small launch bugs. The key word here is small. They don't expect a potentially catastrophic failure from a AAA title.

EDIT: Actually this is irrelevant - the Italian Reddit user is saying that he doesn't have an SD card in his Switch at all.
Or GF was too proud or dense to ask Nintendo EAD or any of the various 2nd and 3rd party devs if there were quirks that they should know about, considering none of the other times something like this came up seemed to be this widespread.
 
So we're now looking through the game to see how it goes for us, starting with Shield. My brother named himself "willywob", which is probably the best part thus far.

The opening cutscene really is so fucking awkward, like man, they missed the boat by not giving it voiceovers. Also can you really skip cutscenes with the "skip movies" option or is that about something else?
text doesn't count, only cinematics are skipped
 
So we're now looking through the game to see how it goes for us, starting with Shield. My brother named himself "willywob", which is probably the best part thus far.

The opening cutscene really is so fucking awkward, like man, they missed the boat by not giving it voiceovers. Also can you really skip cutscenes with the "skip movies" option or is that about something else?


I was watching a stream and this was super jarring. Why not even have little soundbytes like XD/Colo or almost any other 3D game without VAs. I have a feeling GF was trying to get away with 2D concepts in 3D. The other prime example being the infamous 180 from Zacian(sp?) that would look normal in 2D.
 
Or GF was too proud or dense to ask Nintendo EAD or any of the various 2nd and 3rd party devs if there were quirks that they should know about, considering none of the other times something like this came up seemed to be this widespread.
I’m choosing to believe that they/TPC either didn’t care about it because Pokemon Go, merchandise, and the card games are what’s holding the company together so they don’t care to make sure this game was good (or worked) or that TPC made them take the shortest amount of time, cut many corners, made sure to hide things from or lie to people (like we only knew the Dexit thing from the stream that started this), with half of the usual team working on a game (that I’m thinking on getting), just to let this die or to do that yearly thing.

Honestly I’d rather just have spin-offs again than a mainline game.
 
I assume that the retail/internal shit work off a crazier version of the SD issues Sciresm describes here since yeah hardware failure is an explanation but why did the switch not crap out earlier then?

I'm going to take a stab at it and say that Pokemon is pushing the system in a way that's triggering hardware faults that already exist. Who knows what SwSh is doing in the background beyond the SD card stuff. It's also possible this is the first game that people are playing for extended periods of time if they just bought the system or haven't picked up a deep-dive game before now.

As for who's to blame, my opinion is that it's 50-50 Nintendo and GF. GF should have tested the game with various SD card formats and for extended play sessions before going gold specifically to avoid this shit, but Nintendo knowingly has a terrible SD Card driver without proper safeguards as well as approved GF coding the game in this way and published the game.
 
Bro's taken a break so his twin could play his Xbox before he turns in for the night, but "willywob" wasted like seven-plus minutes getting himself a female Sobble, and in total gameplay time, he's got like twenty-three minutes and he still hasn't gotten Poke Balls, and he's on level seven from the lone rival battle. That's fucking crazy, usually you get to have the ability to catch Pokemon by then.
 
i wonder how many people would have picked up this game if it didnt have pokemon in the title, like if it were, "yokai watch sword and shield", some pokemon are big? graphics visually unimpressive even for last gen? you can move the camera (in certain areas)? can you imagine people wrapped around the block to pick that up at midnight at launch for $60 or pick up both versions?
 
This circle jerk is off the hook. Switches and it's joycons have been glitchy since launch. Now anytime something goes haywire, Pokemon is getting blamed. The issue has to do with how SD cards are formatted and how the system reads it. This isn't it the first time this issue has happened. So I get it, circle jerks feel good, but GameFreak can only code so well and want to do so much. Nintendo has acknowledged this in the past, it isn't new, and it isn't GameFreaks fault.
Game is trash, Switch's are becoming self aware and trying to off themselves so they don't have to run such a shit game. Game Freak and Nintendo need to take that as a reality check.

 
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Crossover with Smash. ZeRo took one big bitter pill.
 
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Crossover with Smash. ZeRo took one big bitter pill.
At least with Final Fantasy 13 you could abuse the battle system to make fights go quicker and some of the battles were rather interesting despite the game being all hallways as well(until the game opened up 90% in).

But you could also see where the development time went. With Pokemon it's like they tried to scramble everything together in 6 months.
 
I caught a shiny Wooloo super early into the game!! I was so shocked, haha. I almost had a heart attack because it happened before I got the Pokedex and thought I didn't have Pokeballs. It turns out your mom gives you 5 of them when you leave so I was able to catch Wooloo.

I love him so much. I'm gonna try to bring him all the way to the Pokemon League finals.

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