Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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ducktales4gameboy said:
Another stream observation that stands out to me as particularly lazy that I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere yet: a large chunk of the evolved mon forms seem to spawn in the wild area. Sure the other gens have a handful of catchable evolved, but they’re at least reserved for high-level/unique dungeons. It seems to defeat the point/fun of evolution entirely to catch an oddish at like lv5 and stick it in a reserve slot to leech off exp share only for the game to give you an infinite, easily accessible source of lv30 glooms 2 hours later when the oddish is mid-20s. GF really pulled out the stops to remove as many extraneous mons as possible.

Oh, and to note: it’s super funny to watch someone go through the stages of grief realizing the ‘very powerful’ wild area mons are always one level higher than your catch levelcap. I bet we’re going to see some simple, interesting mods for this game that make it a lot more interesting before long.

Also, I’m a bit confused about the screwed up importer theory. Unless they did something colossally stupid like deleting the source files and not having a backup (or not noticing the screwed up models for months..) the solution should just be fixing the importer and rerunning it to import the models correctly
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They removed GTS so allowing people to just catch Pokemon like Steelix is a way to say "You don't need to trade with people, just catch one" as an excuse.
 
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Problem with this theory is Sword and Shield is based on Let's Go engine so...... they already imported the models from the 3DS to Let's Go. Also the 3DS models are also used on all the mobiles games, this one doesn't make a lot of sense. I find it really hard to believe that something as simple as a broken importer. The entire region looks completely unfinished and I can't believe the entire staff was held up by a problem like this as often things are put together in tandem (story, areas, postgame, etc.) I would say something obviously did happen developing this game though, it's more likely looking at it that it was originally designed for the 3DS then ported into the Let's Go engine creating this Frankenstein's monster of a game. We also can't forget that the leadership as far as Pokemon goes is really out of touch with what people want for years.

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The more you look at this situation the more it devolves into a Mobius Strip of fuckery. But I'll try to break it down.

It could possibly be a combination of the two. Everything started on the 3DS as they had no faith for the Switch (which, after the Wii U I can't exactly blame them), but then they got word that there would be no more dedicated handhelds after the 3DS so they had an "Oh shit!" moment and hastily threw everything into an HD realm last minute, which is just asking for something to go wrong for a company that hasn't touched that kind of tech up until now. As for LG, the coding for all mons are in it, but not the actual models themselves, so there was still porting to do.

However that brings into question why not all the Kanto mons made it (less than half actually) if they were all ready to go due to LG. It could be they didn't want to be accused of favoritism but then there's still all the Kanto whoring anyway so, who knows.

The other other potential factor is that, after it became clear the full dex wasn't going to happen for whatever reason, TPC got the idea to use popular mons as extra "incentive" for people to use the Home service, which would explain the random Kanto cuts and why so many generally popular mons were snapped period, because then that would get more people to pay up for Home instead of if only the Lumineons and Wormadams of the world were cut.

Yet this also flies in the face of the broken porter theory because that makes it sound like the cuts were planned all along, whereas the porter break implies they effectively played it by ear all the way. And there's always the outcome where for the next game they pull their own "Everyone is here!" to try and get back in the fanbase's good graces, and that in itself has questions as to if that was the plan all along and they just didn't think repeatedly saying "Dexit is forever now" would have repercussions (which is doubtful considering how they've been hiding away ever since the leaks happened) or as a response to the current backlash.

It's like, even attempting to wrap one's head around this clusterfuck gives you an instant headache. I know I got one just typing this mess out.

EDIT: I just came across this. Oh boy.
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UntimelyDhelmise said:
The more you look at this situation the more it devolves into a Mobius Strip of fuckery. But I'll try to break it down.

It could possibly be a combination of the two. Everything started on the 3DS as they had no faith for the Switch (which, after the Wii U I can't exactly blame them), but then they got word that there would be no more dedicated handhelds after the 3DS so they had an "Oh shit!" moment and hastily threw everything into an HD realm last minute, which is just asking for something to go wrong for a company that hasn't touched that kind of tech up until now. As for LG, the coding for all mons are in it, but not the actual models themselves, so there was still porting to do.

However that brings into question why not all the Kanto mons made it (less than half actually) if they were all ready to go due to LG. It could be they didn't want to be accused of favoritism but then there's still all the Kanto whoring anyway so, who knows.

The other other potential factor is that, after it became clear the full dex wasn't going to happen for whatever reason, TPC got the idea to use popular mons as extra "incentive" for people to use the Home service, which would explain the random Kanto cuts and why so many generally popular mons were snapped period, because then that would get more people to pay up for Home instead of if only the Lumineons and Wormadams of the world were cut.

Yet this also flies in the face of the broken porter theory because that makes it sound like the cuts were planned all along, whereas the porter break implies they effectively played it by ear all the way. And there's always the outcome where for the next game they pull their own "Everyone is here!" to try and get back in the fanbase's good graces, and that in itself has questions as to if that was the plan all along and they just didn't think repeatedly saying "Dexit is forever now" would have repercussions (which is doubtful considering how they've been hiding away ever since the leaks happened) or as a response to the current backlash.

It's like, even attempting to wrap one's head around this clusterfuck gives you an instant headache. I know I got one just typing this mess out.

EDIT: I just came across this. Oh boy.
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To be completely honest I wouldn't be surprised if all the Pokemon were originally in the game and then they cut most of them out in the last year. That would actually explain a lot about the game too, it actually wouldn't be too different from the past few gens. All the most popular Pokemon getting the axe, and a lot of really unpopular Pokemon made it in. That can't be a coincidence at this point either.
 
There are people out there who bought both versions of the game and think any problems with it can just be patched out or they would be willing to buy DLC to fix the game or Mobage currency to perform specific quality of life actions.
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
The more you look at this situation the more it devolves into a Mobius Strip of fuckery. But I'll try to break it down.

It could possibly be a combination of the two. Everything started on the 3DS as they had no faith for the Switch (which, after the Wii U I can't exactly blame them), but then they got word that there would be no more dedicated handhelds after the 3DS so they had an "Oh shit!" moment and hastily threw everything into an HD realm last minute, which is just asking for something to go wrong for a company that hasn't touched that kind of tech up until now. As for LG, the coding for all mons are in it, but not the actual models themselves, so there was still porting to do.

However that brings into question why not all the Kanto mons made it (less than half actually) if they were all ready to go due to LG. It could be they didn't want to be accused of favoritism but then there's still all the Kanto whoring anyway so, who knows.

The other other potential factor is that, after it became clear the full dex wasn't going to happen for whatever reason, TPC got the idea to use popular mons as extra "incentive" for people to use the Home service, which would explain the random Kanto cuts and why so many generally popular mons were snapped period, because then that would get more people to pay up for Home instead of if only the Lumineons and Wormadams of the world were cut.

Yet this also flies in the face of the broken porter theory because that makes it sound like the cuts were planned all along, whereas the porter break implies they effectively played it by ear all the way. And there's always the outcome where for the next game they pull their own "Everyone is here!" to try and get back in the fanbase's good graces, and that in itself has questions as to if that was the plan all along and they just didn't think repeatedly saying "Dexit is forever now" would have repercussions (which is doubtful considering how they've been hiding away ever since the leaks happened) or as a response to the current backlash.

It's like, even attempting to wrap one's head around this clusterfuck gives you an instant headache. I know I got one just typing this mess out.

EDIT: I just came across this. Oh boy.
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If they added MTX after this initial shitshow I think some autists will actually riot in the streets lmao.
 
I always chalked up the Pokemon cuts to some plan to market and push Pokemon Home, especially after seeing how extensive the cuts were and how many incredibly popular Pokemon didn't make it into SwSh.

Create a subscription service where players can store and play with their Pokemon.
Only allow certain Pokemon to be transferred out to new games, don't allow any Pokemon to be transferred out to old games.
Don't tell anyone which Pokemon can and can't be transferred.
Profit off fans who now are stuck paying the subscription fee so their beloved data and pixels that can't go to SwSh don't get baleeted forever.
 
apparently the game has a save deleting bug
60 dollars plus tip
How did they fuck up autosaving of all things?
addition: scratch that it deletes ALL SAVES on console

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It's not over yet snake
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rotollo said:
Rose is exceptional wants to stop an energy crisis that will happen in a thousand years but cant wait due to autism, has a worse motive then lysandre we get this line
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so he can keep his autistic sports ball with "biddger perkermn"
Team yell is team skull without anything interesting
The not bogs help you stop rose
Post game is a 2 hours of rematches and capturing the legendary
Story overall seems less thought out then even X and Y
Also Hop and sonia still stop you often for dialog shit so it also has the problems of sun and moon
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I was trying to avoid story spoilers at first because I was expecting something interesting, but the real twist was that there isn’t really a story at all.
 
rotollo said:
apparently the game has a save deleting bug
60 dollars plus tip
How did they fuck up autosaving of all things?
addition: scratch that it deletes ALL SAVES on console

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HOLY FUCK
And it deletes all of your other game's save datas too! Sweet baby jesus I'm glad I cancelled my fuckin' preorder, I have 300+ hours on MHGU and if I have to grind Elderfrost Gammoth even one more fucking time for the switchaxe, I'd drop nuke 3 on Gamefreak. How is the game THIS FUCKIN' HILARIOUSLY BAD?!
 
Auk Autist said:
HOLY FUCK
And it deletes all of your other game's save datas too! Sweet baby jesus I'm glad I cancelled my fuckin' preorder, I have 300+ hours on MHGU and if I have to grind Elderfrost Gammoth even one more fucking time for the switchaxe, I'd drop nuke 3 on Gamefreak. How is the game THIS FUCKIN' HILARIOUSLY BAD?!
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This is why I don't trust game freak with my pokemon in what will be their joke of a cloud service, they will proably find a way to make that end up like this as well, this is even worse when x and y bugged out it's saves
 
I'm playing this on loop because there comes a point where all you can do while viewing an absolute disaster of this caliber is to laugh like a goddamn madman.
 
rotollo said:
apparently the game has a save deleting bug
60 dollars plus tip
How did they fuck up autosaving of all things?
addition: scratch that it deletes ALL SAVES on console

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This happened with smash too, the cause was knockoff amazon SD cards. It might be that again.

Of course XY could brick your 3DS, so it might just be Gamefreak being Gamefreak.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
x and y also had a save bug like this.
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at least X and Y was limited to lumiose city, this seems to be able to happen randomly due to auto save allegidly, plus X and Y only effected X and Y not the entire console
Apparently its only happening to japanese eshop players but oh god if the japanese don't already have enough reason to be mad at this shit
 
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