Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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BroccoliBrain said:
Fuck Mt Coronet and fuck fishing for Feebas inside it. I really wanted a Milotic back then but fishing for Feebas is fucking cancer.
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Definitely agree. I recently played Platinum again and catching Feebas is just luck. I managed to catch one recently in my playthrough after 20 minutes of fishing at random spots. Evolving it to Milotic can have its advantages in the late and after game in Platinum depending on your team setup. However, it's not worth catching Feebas if it takes you more than 20 minutes to even find it. Just use Floatzel and it can essentially do almost the same stuff as Milotic.
 
Sinnoh had the best level design tbh, it really felt like I was travelling places because it took fuckin days to get to Snowpoint
 
One of my biggest problems with Sinnoh that isn't really talked about is that the learnset for some Pokemon is fucking ridiculous. Leafeon should not being learning Leaf Blade all the way at level 71.
 
Bunny Tracks said:
One of my biggest problems with Sinnoh that isn't really talked about is that the learnset for some Pokemon is fucking ridiculous. Leafeon should not being learning Leaf Blade all the way at level 71.
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I think Sinnoh was very much geared for a high-level postgame. Like 8 legendaries were l70+, the Battle Zone had high-60s wild pokemon, and the rematch e4 could get up to level 70-something after enough wins. I don't think any other game has that.
 
Vrakks said:
I think Sinnoh was very much geared for a high-level postgame. Like 8 legendaries were l70+, the Battle Zone had high-60s wild pokemon, and the rematch e4 could get up to level 70-something after enough wins. I don't think any other game has that.
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Sinnoh has offered a lot more content and challenge than some of the recent titles. Gen 6's difficulty was a joke and 7 had one tough fight here and there. I do want Sinnoh to have remakes but my worry is it'll get messed up somehow by Gamefreak removing the fun challenging parts of gen. 4.
 
BroccoliBrain said:
It makes sense if the Pokemon is well bred or some kind of legendary (but GF hands those out like candy) but some seem arbitrarily hard to get for no real reason.
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That fact that a legendary pokemon can eat through your pokeballs (unless you use the one masterball that they hand you once per game) isn't really gamefreak handing them out like candy.
 
Nauseated Courgi said:
That fact that a legendary pokemon can eat through your pokeballs (unless you use the one masterball that they hand you once per game) isn't really gamefreak handing them out like candy.
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There a ton of legendaries and they are frequently given out for free though some promotion or another (a.k.a. downloading from the internet or downloading from a physical store like Gamestop).

If you're even casually into pokemon and are near a gamestop you could have a level 60 or 100 Reisham, Ho-oh, Zekrom, Lugia, Latias, Latios, Groudon, Kyogre, Celibi, Tornadus, or Thundrus plus a bunch of shiny pokemon (including Eevee) with literally 0 effort and 0 pokeballs wasted. This was over a 6 month period in 2018.

They do kind of hand them out like candy.
 
Tanner Glass said:
There a ton of legendaries and they are frequently given out for free though some promotion or another (a.k.a. downloading from the internet or downloading from a physical store like Gamestop).

If you're even casually into pokemon and are near a gamestop you could have a level 60 or 100 Reisham, Ho-oh, Zekrom, Lugia, Latias, Latios, Groudon, Kyogre, Celibi, Tornadus, or Thundrus plus a bunch of shiny pokemon (including Eevee) with literally 0 effort and 0 pokeballs wasted. This was over a 6 month period in 2018.

They do kind of hand them out like candy.
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To piggy back off of this: I have said earlier but I have one pearl, two diamonds, and one platinum. When they were releasing the shiny dog trio at game stop all throughout january 2011 I took all four games to each one. Then some time later they released them again but over wifi, and as both diamonds were both my bitch games I was practically swimming in them. I've given at least three shiny dog trio sets that I know of out, have one that I promised to a friend, and I still have mine.

Then 2016 I'm pretty sure they were celebrating the 20 year anniversary with an event legendary every month.

It's super easy to get a lot of them, you dont even really need two games now because of bank but having two games always helped.
 
Bunny Tracks said:
One of my biggest problems with Sinnoh that isn't really talked about is that the learnset for some Pokemon is fucking ridiculous. Leafeon should not being learning Leaf Blade all the way at level 71.
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Bad learnsets have always been a major issue till at least Unova (it being the first region with infinite TMs also helped).

Gens I-III were especially awful. Just from level up movesets alone there's far too many mons who don't learn proper STAB (it took until gen V for Sandslash to learn Earthquake on its own), and several types had horrendous options overall like Grass being relegated to just a couple usable moves outside of Solar Beam for the first couple gens, and both were base 70 or lower because ANOTHER issue was a lot of moves were less powerful back then.
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
Bad learnsets have always been a major issue till at least Unova (it being the first region with infinite TMs also helped).

Gens I-III were especially awful. Just from level up movesets alone there's far too many mons who don't learn proper STAB (it took until gen V for Sandslash to learn Earthquake on its own), and several types had horrendous options overall like Grass being relegated to just a couple usable moves outside of Solar Beam for the first couple gens, and both were base 70 or lower because ANOTHER issue was a lot of moves were less powerful back then.
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Many types still lack powerful moves that are wide-spread, for example Ghost still relies on the 80 power Shadow Ball if they are special, or the 70 power Shadow Claw if they are physical. Most moves stronger than those either have downsides(Phantom Force taking 2 turns) or are exclusive to a single Pokemon line.

Many Pokemon also don't have a good STAB of one of their types, like Drifblim's only special Flying moves being Gust and Air Cutter, the latter being exclusive to a Gen IV move tutor. And Seismitoad doesn't get any physical water moves whatsoever.
 
Dunsparce said:
Many types still lack powerful moves that are wide-spread, for example Ghost still relies on the 80 power Shadow Ball if they are special, or the 70 power Shadow Claw if they are physical. Most moves stronger than those either have downsides(Phantom Force taking 2 turns) or are exclusive to a single Pokemon line.

Many Pokemon also don't have a good STAB of one of their types, like Drifblim's only special Flying moves being Gust and Air Cutter, the latter being exclusive to a Gen IV move tutor. And Seismitoad doesn't get any physical water moves whatsoever.
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The thing about Ghosts is that they're the only type to have all their moves be 100% accurate, so it makes sense that they're generally less powerful on average. But yeah there will probably always be moveset issues with individual mons. And in fact it's about to get markedly worse again because the death of the national dex means a shitload of egg moves are effectively going to be erased since the mons to pass those moves down to different offspring will be gone.
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
The thing about Ghosts is that they're the only type to have all their moves be 100% accurate, so it makes sense that they're generally less powerful on average. But yeah there will probably always be moveset issues with individual mons. And in fact it's about to get markedly worse again because the death of the national dex means a shitload of egg moves are effectively going to be erased since the mons to pass those moves down to different offspring will be gone.
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Then wouldn't that mean that'll get their egg moves from either the mons that made it in and the mons in the new game? Hell, they might even give them more move options from the move tutor as well to make up for it.
 
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BroccoliBrain said:
Fuck Mt Coronet and fuck fishing for Feebas inside it. I really wanted a Milotic back then but fishing for Feebas is fucking cancer.


Milotic isn’t even special or powerful to warrant it being this hard to obtain, it’s rare for the sake of being rare. So the only way to get it if you want it is through the power of autism focus, and my 10 year old ass ain’t spending all summer for this bullshit. I remember trying to fish through every tile, row by row, so as not to lose my place but I ended up doing so somehow and I had to put the game down at some point (to live my fucking life) and then inevitably it would be the day after - i.e., the tiles would have reshuffled and I’d have to do that all over again.

Who even sees value in ‘rare’ Pokemon? It’s game data where infinite amounts of a Pokemon can be spawned and bred, unlike other collectables that are truly limited in number. It’s artificial scarcity and boring to do. I don’t know if Gamefreak still have this level of convoluted crap in their later games but they’re asking for people to cheat and homebrew the fuck out of them if they do. It makes sense if the Pokemon is well bred or some kind of legendary (but GF hands those out like candy) but some seem arbitrarily hard to get for no real reason. Locking ordinary mons behind stuff like this doesn’t make them any more valuable.
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I'd always just ask for a feebas in an online trade, fuck catching one myself.
 
Nauseated Courgi said:
Then wouldn't that mean that'll get their egg moves from either the mons that made it in and the mons in the new game? Hell, they might even give them more move options from the move tutor as well to make up for it.
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Some egg moves only come from one evolutionary line, and I severely doubt they're going to bother to make sure they're all preserved in the new region's roster let alone expand the tutor list for them (which won't properly appear until the next set of games anyway).
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
Some egg moves only come from one evolutionary line, and I severely doubt they're going to bother to make sure they're all preserved in the new region's roster let alone expand the tutor list for them (which won't properly appear until the next set of games anyway).
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They could always keep them and make them egg moves that require a parent from a prior gen(Like some egg moves are or have been in the past), only that the parent from the prior gen will have to be a member of the same evolutionary line, like they do already with Extremespeed Dragonite and Self-destruct Snorlax
 
New video.
Galarian Weezing's ability is super broken. It negates all other abilities on the field. Slaking use is probably gonna skyrocket.
 
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