Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Squawking Macaw]

I really think it is much better to leave that as a mystery, why do you want GameFreak to do something when you know they will do it poorly?

Closure, I suppose. They hinted at a perfect Kyurem and I want to see them go through with that, even if poorly. I've seen many fanmade designs with varying degrees of quality and I want to see the official take on it.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

On the topic of interconnected lore, the leaked documents revealed Masuda drew up that one Arceus symbol and revealed what it represents, but it's still mostly comes off as schizobabble.



All the various permutations of ancient Arceus/Dialga/Palkia lore they came up with are pretty interesting though. Too bad none of it's in the finished game.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

but it's still mostly comes off as schizobabble.

To be fair, some of this stuff is well known and has been established in not just the games, but movies too (Lugia and the birds, Ho-Oh and the dogs, The Regis).

My issue is why are the Land/Sea/Air legendaries separated from each other and what does Metagross/Gyarados/Tyranitar/Dragonite have to do with any of them? Also are the rednames new pokemon? Because taking a quick glance at Bulbapedia and even Google spits out zero results, they aren't japanese names to any currently known Pokemon. Is it safe to assume they belong to Cresselia/Darkrai/Manaphy/Phione/Shaymin?

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

On the topic of interconnected lore, the leaked documents revealed Masuda drew up that one Arceus symbol and revealed what it represents, but it's still mostly comes off as schizobabble.

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All the various permutations of ancient Arceus/Dialga/Palkia lore they came up with are pretty interesting though. Too bad none of it's in the finished game.

>no Heatran
bruh

 

[Valstrax]

>no Heatran
bruh

>caring about Heatran

 

[Squawking Macaw]

Also are the rednames new pokemon? Because taking a quick glance at Bulbapedia and even Google spits out zero results, they aren't japanese names to any currently known Pokemon. Is it safe to assume they belong to Lunatone/Darkrai/Manaphy/Phione/Shaymin?

My guess is that they're either placeholders for future lore that never ended up being written or unused Pokemon that never got past the concept stage.

 

[anliteralidiot]

On the topic of interconnected lore, the leaked documents revealed Masuda drew up that one Arceus symbol and revealed what it represents, but it's still mostly comes off as schizobabble.

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All the various permutations of ancient Arceus/Dialga/Palkia lore they came up with are pretty interesting though. Too bad none of it's in the finished game.

Y'know, looking at the two missing from G4, I wonder if they're Mahaphy and Shaymin.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

They're just placeholder names for Pokemon that weren't fully made yet. We can probably assume Smiley is Shaymin, given the appreciation theme. Birthly could just be Manaphy. Dahabu, Saan, and Gordon could be ideas that never made the cut as far as we know, but if they match up to any finished Pokemon they're probably Cresselia, Darkrai, and either Heatran or Garchomp.

Also note that the original picture is actually using early placeholder names for Arceus, Dialga, Palkia, and Regigigas, which are Aus, Ea, Ia, and Tex. And Giratina's circle isn't even there because Giratina wasn't thought up until later in development.

 

[Grayback]

"______ avoided the move in time with your shout!"

*restart game*
*redo fight*

 

[Rat Friend]

Because I'm autistically obsessed with these super-powered cartoon animals, and because there's a lot of potential that goes to waste. The lore surrounding Arceus, Johto's towers, Kyurem's origins, the Kalos war, the champions' roles in their region (are they sports celebrities? Political leaders? Both?).

Yep, I am similar and it drives me insane how inconsistent everything is and barely fits together and we get very little answers about things. Legendary pokemon and folklore is such a huge thing in the Pokemon universe, but they never fully seem to commit to explore it further.

I was really giddy about Legends Arceus because it finally gave some more lore about the creature thats apparently the creator of the universe that never got quite explained until that game came out. While i love Gen 4, Sinnoh in general was lorewise pretty much overkill, because they introduced crazy concepts like the pokemon representing Space and Time.

 

[Marche]

I think one of the only consistent part of pokemon lore that has been around surprisingly since Red and Green is that there is only one Mewtwo unless you count the second one from Rangers which has some stupid MADE THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO bullshit that has never really shown up since.
Every mewtwo you capture in game is technically the same Team Rocket one in that universe (because lol multiple universes)

 

[The Cum Beast]

There's some merit to this reasoning, but it quickly ends up at "why would you want GameFreak to do anything when they'll do it bad?" which is a bit of a useless point of discussion. It's fine to be disappointed at GameFreak's wasted potential while acknowledging the fact they'd probably botch any attempt to fulfill it given their recent track record.

I was one of the few weirdos back during the 3DS era that would've been fine with a second Kanto remake. I thought that a modernized Kanto remake with modern features like physical special split and new megas would've been neat, maybe even throw some Z moves. My rationality was that they would add more content, like maybe double to size of the region with anime exclusive locations for nostalgia baiting (if Unova can be doubled in size in B2W2 while being based on a single city, they could've definitely done that same for an irl region that has over 43 million people). Probably also add on the sevii islands from FRLG, MAYBE even do a reverse of HGSS and have us visit Johto in the post game (even being super optimistic the latter was probably too crazy).

We ended up getting Let's Go, which, I mean it wasn't horrible but was still just very below average. I'd probably be harsher on it if I actually paid for it rather than emulating it years later. The re-imagining of Kanto was pretty charming imo, but the lack of content compared to even FRLG soured it for me quite a lot.

To be fair to Let's Go, I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up making an even worse Kanto remake if they decided to make another one. Let's Go at least had enterable buildings after all.

I didn't know Bank's servers were still up, that's actually neat.
But still, you can transfer and store Pokemon on a modded 3DS using PKSM, the only difference is that it only has 50 storage boxes instead of Bank's 100. I actually prefer PKSM because the last couple of times I tried to use Bank it failed to connect 2 to 3 times before finally letting me use it.

Something small that I really liked about gens 3-5 was the fact you could transfer pokemon from gen 3 to gen 5 with the og DS (which had a GBA slot). This basically future-proofed those games when it comes to tranfering pokemon (obiously if you have the hardware). Unfortunately, they dropped this with the 3DS, which really was a shame. If dream radar was able to interact with B2W2, then they could've easily had a pal park still feature in XY and ORAS (you could still use certain fetures from DS games on the 3DS like B2W2's memory link feature). I kinda understand if there was a cutoff at the switch era games, since it would be hard to connect games directly from two vastly different platforms, but it would've been very cool if gens 3-7 were all interconnected like that.

 

[BlazikenLover]

Yeah Japs highly prefer episodic worldbuilding as opposed to worldbuilding that is more interconnected.

That shit drives me insane. Gens 1 through 4 tried to have connections between the regions, often with the previous gen region or with the game being remade during that gen. Nowadays the best you can get is "X character came from KAAANTOOO", "people from Y region built this town whose architecture has zero resemblance to any existing towns of that region" or "people from this area really appreciate Z pokemon from an older gen"
Kitakami pissed me off since they had four whole japanese regions to pick from and yet decided to make an entirely new region for a one off, ffs could have made it a remote area from sinnoh, the place is as rural as it gets ffs.
Yes I am aware that the choice was made to avoid conflicting lore/characters/etc but is not like they haven't made a ton of retcons already.

The whole jap obsession with episodic media and lack of continuity is something I have noticed creep very hard into another monster collecting media: digimon, specifically the anime. While everyone was praising ghost came I couldn't stomach it since it never made up its mind between having continuity or being episodic, unlike the first six shows.

Something small that I really liked about gens 3-5 was the fact you could transfer pokemon from gen 3 to gen 5 with the og DS (which had a GBA slot). This basically future-proofed those games when it comes to tranfering pokemon (obiously if you have the hardware). Unfortunately, they dropped this with the 3DS, which really was a shame. If dream radar was able to interact with B2W2, then they could've easily had a pal park still feature in XY and ORAS (you could still use certain fetures from DS games on the 3DS like B2W2's memory link feature). I kinda understand if there was a cutoff at the switch era games, since it would be hard to connect games directly from two vastly different platforms, but it would've been very cool if gens 3-7 were all interconnected like that.

Speaking of that it is astounding how transfering pokemon from gens 8 and 9 to ZA is gonna be one way only. All the fucking advances in hardware and software since 2004 and they can't seem to make that damned app work in a straightfoward way, I thought that with mons being able to go between gen 8 and 9 games the days of needing to consult a chart were over.

 

[Lurker]

have been refreshing for a shiny female snorunt in area 12 iirc, and so far i've ended up finding a shiny machoke and machop that i mentioned earlier in the thread, and a shiny snover. very disappoint. then i was wandering elsewhere in the city and ran into a shiny gastly and patrat within minutes of each other.

and ANOTHER shiny snover, and ANOTHER FUCKING SHINY MACHOKE I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD I'M GOING TO THROW MY CONTROLLER INTO THE TV

for context, these pokemon both spawn in the same area as the shiny snorunt i'm looking for. when they spawn, they generally spawn in a set number. usually there's maybe like 4 or 5 snovers, 4 or 5 snorunts, and one. single. machoke. one would think the odds would be higher for one of the 4 or 5 snorunts to be shiny, but nope! but the single machoke? oh, yeah, that'll be shiny all fucking day every fucking day!

if i run into a shiny snorunt and it ends up being male, i'm going to lose my fucking shit

 

[Racial Slurs the Movie]

They're just placeholder names for Pokemon that weren't fully made yet. We can probably assume Smiley is Shaymin, given the appreciation theme. Birthly could just be Manaphy. Dahabu, Saan, and Gordon could be ideas that never made the cut as far as we know, but if they match up to any finished Pokemon they're probably Cresselia, Darkrai, and either Heatran or Garchomp.

Also note that the original picture is actually using early placeholder names for Arceus, Dialga, Palkia, and Regigigas, which are Aus, Ea, Ia, and Tex. And Giratina's circle isn't even there because Giratina wasn't thought up until later in development.

It is Gordon Freeman and his brother John Freeman.

 

[Squawking Macaw]

That shit drives me insane. Gens 1 through 4 tried to have connections between the regions, often with the previous gen region or with the game being remade during that gen. Nowadays the best you can get is "X character came from KAAANTOOO", "people from Y region built this town whose architecture has zero resemblance to any existing towns of that region" or "people from this area really appreciate Z pokemon from an older gen"

In Game Freak's mind, there are only two regions: Kanto, and whichever region is the setting for the current game. Other regions are lucky to get a passing reference in an NPC's dialogue.

One thing that annoys me about the regions being left abandoned is how we've got no lore whatsoever about Xerneas and Yveltal and we probably never will. In XY, their only relevance to the plot is serving as a battery for a weapon, and the only lore you're given is a brief story by an unnamed NPC. Even the few Pokedex entries they've had after XY were reused from XY.

I hoped that a new Kalos game would let us learn more about Xerneas and Yveltal since the first games did such a shit job, but nope. They're relegated to brief postgame quests that tell us nothing new and they didn't even receive Megas (while their trio master did despite already having two alternate forms). And now that a Kalos game has released, and so has stopped existing for GF, we'll never know what makes these two the "Legendary Pokemon of Kalos."

 

[Celebrate Nite]

we'll never know what makes these two the "Legendary Pokemon of Kalos."

Technically three, since Zygarde is part of the same Trio as the other two.

Also you know how Rayquaza is the tard-wrangler for Kyogre and Groundon so one element doesn't completely take-over the other? Pretty much a "CTRL+C/CTRL+V" situation in XY, like how the Gen 7 Legendaries are a "CTRL+C/CTRL+V" of Gen 5. Essentially Xerneas is the "life giver" of nature while Yevelta is the "life taker" of nature with Zygarde making sure there is an even balance between the two. It's why they are called the "Aura" trio which relates to their abilities and why Zygarde has the ability to break both Xerneas and Yvelta's ability.

Think "The Circle Of Life" from The Lion King only taken to a more literal extreme.

 

[anliteralidiot]

and ANOTHER shiny snover, and ANOTHER FUCKING SHINY MACHOKE I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD I'M GOING TO THROW MY CONTROLLER INTO THE TV

for context, these pokemon both spawn in the same area as the shiny snorunt i'm looking for. when they spawn, they generally spawn in a set number. usually there's maybe like 4 or 5 snovers, 4 or 5 snorunts, and one. single. machoke. one would think the odds would be higher for one of the 4 or 5 snorunts to be shiny, but nope! but the single machoke? oh, yeah, that'll be shiny all fucking day every fucking day!

if i run into a shiny snorunt and it ends up being male, i'm going to lose my fucking shit

I've been there on my hunt for a shiny cherubi in Legends Arceus.

it might get better

 

[Squawking Macaw]

Essentially Xerneas is the "life giver" of nature while Yevelta is the "life taker" of nature with Zygarde making sure there is an even balance between the two. It's why they are called the "Aura" trio which relates to their abilities and why Zygarde has the ability to break both Xerneas and Yvelta's ability.

I know, it just annoys me that this isn't shown in the games. In the Hoenn games, Groudon and Kyogre are actually shown controlling the weather when they're awakened, in XY, Xerneas and Yveltal don't do anything. They're found offscreen by Team Flare in their dormant state and they're hooked up to the Ultimate Weapon to be used as a battery.

Zygarde being the protector of the ecosystem ends up being pretty funny in ZA given that it rescued a maniac who wanted to wipe out everyone just after he tried firing a WMD.

 

[Anti Snigger]

and ANOTHER shiny snover, and ANOTHER FUCKING SHINY MACHOKE I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD I'M GOING TO THROW MY CONTROLLER INTO THE TV

In scarlet, I had a similar thing happen with hoppip. I found my first shiny hoppip about 5 minutes into my playthrough, and I then found another 2 while hunting for other shit. Those stupid adorable green tomatoes just mocking me