Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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anliteralidiot said:
It's currently bulky physical types. Gyarados being a top tier, but not its mega. It's immune to earthquake, making it super valuable, because everything in the game uses fucking earthquake. It also has access to Bounce, which has i-frames, and auto-targets. Ampharos is an ok counter, and it has access to the shield moves, but...the earthquake problem.

I've seen people run Xerneas, because it's a bulkier fairy type, and I've seen aggron get used as a counter to that.
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Don't forget the paralysis chance on bounce
 
Grayback said:
More thoughts from someone who has actually played it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrJCLxD0obw
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Not surprised that GF fucked up the return of one of my favorite newer features, but on the other hand it looks like it mainly applies to that real-time battle system rather than the traditional, which this game lacks and honestly, it's looks pretty interesting. Again I haven't touched this game and likely never will (single player looks eh and I'm not paying for online and I doubt there's many people playing online on an emulator) so I was not aware that this was the default battle system so I was thinking of the traditional battle system. Like a muppet.
Yeah this completely shits on what I wrote, never mind me. If they bring Megas back into the mainline series then I might have some legs to stand on, and I won't count showdown.
 
Toxinophile said:
What did you find so good about it? Genuine question because whenever I hear someone bring up a positive for this game they always add a caveat, which to me doesn't really sound like a positive at all. Like for example, are you saying Legends ZA's underwhelming moments didn't personally bother you, or are you saying that Legends ZA doesn't have any underwhelming moments at all, but can be perceived as underwhelming by some?
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I like janky games and the legends series feels particularly experimental after years of by the numbers mainline games since X and Y, they feel like what would have happened if there was a game like coliseum for the wii/wii u, and have a real small sense of scale with trade offs for the experiences they are going for (i.e. arceus not having developed towns or ZA taking place entirely in luminous for example) its somewhat outside the box albeit undercooked due to game freak being very stilted behind the industry.
The action based stuff like ZA's battle system or pokeball throwing is a risk that mainline wouldn't approach in years due to the rut they have been in since X and Y (which I think speaks to how over managed the IP is overall by marketing since gen 6 but I digress), not to say game freak are cherubs as this situation was entirely their own doing due to their own complacency as well as relying on the pokemon name to sell their stuff, but I think the criticism they have gotten in the switch era is having them do more shit they wouldn't do back during the go days.
I don't think all their bets will work out (gen 10 being proc gen for example is going to suck hard) but when it comes to big IPS, I prefer a shaky but interesting game compared to stable, formulaic but boring ones mainline has been for a while
 
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Rotollo 2 said:
I don't think all their bets will work out but when it comes to big IPS, I prefer a shaky but interesting game compared to stable, formulaic but boring ones mainline has been for a while
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Oh yeah totally I get it. There's definitely at least something to appreciate with how experimental GameFreak have been getting these past 5 years. I simply preferred if they made better games out of it, or just didn't charge you full retail price + DLC for the privilege. You say these games feel like a Wii/ Wii U game, I feel the same way but in a derogatory sense. It would've been nice to get Legends Arceus or Legends Z-A back in 2012 but it's cynically current year, and it kinda feels like a missed opportunity that they didn't. While the general discussion has been worded in a more sensationally dramatic tone, I get the vibe that a whole lot of people, in regards to the Pokemon Legends series, overall feels like it's too little, too late.

Hell GameFreak should've just made the mainline games with better quality too. If fuggin ROMhacks made by the mentally unstable can vastly innovate upon the standard Pokemon formula, so can they.
 
robotjaks said:
Any of you guys know what the competitive meta is like in legends za? Apparently the real time gameplay has shaken things up, but im a bit wary of the new entries after swsh.
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The meta is using mons like Glaceon to snipe ice weak meta Pokemon like Salamence and Dragonite from afar and Pokemon with small models like Stunfisk are actually somewhat useful since they can avoid some moves by default.
 
I started playing the TCG online back in August and god even in a children's card game trannies are so unavoidable, I try to watch a tournament to see how people play decks an stuff and they have a ghoulish hulking troon casting, for a company so protective of its IP and family friendly marketing they sure love just letting the transexuals rule over the western event scenes.

Anyway I pulled this a few weeks back.
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Grayback said:
You must be having the greatest decade of your life.
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not really because alot of games are jank in boring and cringe ways, live service crap to drain money, or badly running UE 5 sloppa
if the industry released jank kino like disaster day of crisis or deadly premonition id be alot happier
Toxinophile said:
Oh yeah totally I get it. There's definitely at least something to appreciate with how experimental GameFreak have been getting these past 5 years. I simply preferred if they made better games out of it, or just didn't charge you full retail price + DLC for the privilege.
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Oh yeah I 100% get they are high for thinking this is on BOTW scale shit. Arceus was fine but mostly because that game didn't have dlc (still cant believe they spent 1.5 that games budget for the Gen 9 dlc like what the fuck man)
I feel part of the issue as well is despite it being cross gen this is practically a launch year title for switch 2 and it doesn't really show anything impressive as a console seller to justify it being cross gen like that.
They really were insolated by fact they were primary developing for handhelds which were 2 gens behind console, so when they had to shift to HD development with their weird team structure it fucked them in the ass
You say these games feel like a Wii/ Wii U game, I feel the same way but in a derogatory sense. It would've been nice to get Legends Arceus or Legends Z-A back in 2012 but it's cynically current year, and it kinda feels like a missed opportunity that they didn't. While the general discussion has been worded in a more sensationally dramatic tone, I get the vibe that a whole lot of people, in regards to the Pokemon Legends series, overall feels like it's too little, too late.
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a lot of it too is that they burnt alot of their fans good will between shit like dexit, scarlet and violet having visual bugs that would get a indie game laughed at, and the palworld lawsuit on itself potentially hurting the monster capture genre. Game Freak 100% deserve whatever criticism they get because fan made excuses for them for years because of nostalgia
Though that being said I will admit the legends games settings did also make them far more compelling for me, Sinnoh is a region surrounded in myth so expanding on that with a game set in the past untamed area was a Sinnoh-fetus' wet dream, while Z-A being in kalos really helped flesh out a region that felt like it needed an Emerald/Platinum style Z to feel complete.
Toxinophile said:
Hell GameFreak should've just made the mainline games with better quality too. If fuggin ROMhacks made by the mentally unstable can vastly innovate upon the standard Pokemon formula, so can they.
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They seem to be focusing on scale with mainline, hence Scar/Vio being open world or Gen 10 being some weird wind waker/daggerfall clusterfuck (in the leaks they described the mainline series as "expanding what Pokémon is" while the legends series "goes deeper into already existing lore/mechanics") I would highly recommend checking those new teraleak documents, its highly fascinating to see how game freak works internally I would kill to be a fly on the wall to hear the sugamori and masuda argument during gen 6 that allegedly got him banned from directing non remake games during X/Y
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I like mega Starmie. It's just silly. Not every Mega is super spiky and upgraded like Kangaskan just has the baby come out and peoplee still like that.
Out of all the new Megas I like Dragonite the most and am disapointed with Clefable because its hat and ears just end up looking dumb, it should look the same just with the wings.
 
Marche said:
I like mega Starmie. It's just silly. Not every Mega is super spiky and upgraded like Kangaskan just has the baby come out and peoplee still like that.
Out of all the new Megas I like Dragonite the most and am disapointed with Clefable because its hat and ears just end up looking dumb, it should look the same just with the wings.
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It appears to me that Anonitolia and maybe Peanut Butter Trails wants you to hate them like they do....well former does, latter not so much.
EDIT: My point is proven.
 
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Danann said:
It appears to me that Anonitolia and maybe Peanut Butter Trails wants you to hate them like they do....well former does, latter not so much.
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I like simple and stupid designs and there are far worse ones in ZA than Starmies. Falinks is shockingly stupid it only ends up 5ft tall when combined.
Even Glenn Danzig is tallker.
 
I have never been a fan of Lucario or Mega Lucario, but they look amazing compared to whatever the hell this is meant to be.

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Its like one of those shitty furry shark OC's.
 
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