Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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I'll decide he's wrong solely based off that cringe thumbnail.
All it’s missing is sad_mario_face.jpg
>but Mario doesn’t have anything to do with Pokemon
Neither does Miyamoto.
Y’know, if GameFreak put half as much effort into making their games as they do getting Nintendo to sue anyone who makes anything remotely close to Pokemon, I’d be willing to let some things slide if Z-A was the first Legends game.

But it’s not, and from what I’ve seen there’s actual debate Legends Arceus was the better game. I hate how the franchise that has my childhood nostalgia in a death grip is run by people who’ve been coasting for over a decade…
If Arceus had good visuals and animations, it would be one of the best games in the series.
People seem really split on mega starmie, but I think the design has a lot of personality. People are memeing the hell out of it
I’m getting serious Majora(‘s Incarnation) vibes from it.
 
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The game seems to take place in Southeast Asia, has a marine/tropical theme and has every single Pokemon rideable. The goal is to make a game with infinite amount of content, in other words the Bethesda styled radiant quests and randomly generated islands like the "thousand planets" of Starfield. Considering this is Gamefreak we are talking about here, it's likely going to go just as well. Hell, if they can't even make a game set in one city without it crashing at launch, just imagine a game with randomly generated content on the go lmfao
Here is Project Seed, some sort of mmo(?) where the entirety of Japan in the Pokemon world is accessible, for example you can walk from Sinnoh to Hoenn and vice versa, as well as from Johto to Kanto
Seeing Spore referenced as an example for Pokemon is surreal.
So for gen 10 they're planning to add procedurally generated terrain and Pokemon. This is gonna be an AIslop fiesta the likes of which we've never seen, if they're already planning on using generative AI to this extent, what are the chances that they've already used it to spit out some Pokemon?

Are you having a good day? Well, I'm about to ruin it or make it worse, they canceled Legends Johto for Z-A
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Given the absolute state of ZA and my hatred of Legends Arceus, this actually improved my day a little.

Serena and Calem from XY are usually, 95% of the time drawn with their default outfits for a reason, same with protagonists of Sun/Moon and Sword/Shield.
SuMo's protagonists' default outfits look ugly as sin. Letting people customize their trainers is never a bad thing (unless they're putting skirts on their male characters).
 
if they're already planning on using generative AI to this extent
I'm going to be :optimistic: and hope that means they're going to do something like in the PMD games, but I know I'm wrong
 
I'm going to be :optimistic: and hope that means they're going to do something like in the PMD games, but I know I'm wrong
The idea seems to be that your starter in gen 10 will have procedurally generated forms or evolutions depending on your playstyle, and the environment will adapt in response to them.

Of course, this is Game Freak. ZA's beta had fully modeled windows, but they had to flatten them to reach 60 FPS, if they can't even figure that out then there's no way they'll figure out procedural generation.
 
The idea seems to be that your starter in gen 10 will have procedurally generated forms or evolutions depending on your playstyle, and the environment will adapt in response to them.

Of course, this is Game Freak. ZA's beta had fully modeled windows, but they had to flatten them to reach 60 FPS, if they can't even figure that out then there's no way they'll figure out procedural generation.
Considering that the best way Gamefreak thought to make Luminose in ZA is to quite literally map the entire city as one large model, then Wind/Waves will be a fucking disaster, even worse than SV's launch. Remember, that game loads the ENTIRE WORLD everytime you enter a loading screen, eventually leading to an unavoidable memory leak and crash, not to mention all the related glitches and horrific performance. Gamefreak makes Obsidian and Bethesda's games look like optimized masterpieces, hell Fallout 4's biggest problem was Boston Downtown itself and outside of that the game ran infinitely more smooth than 3 or New Vegas. Where is any sort of improvement or technical evolution with Gamefreak? Genius Sonority titles still look and play better than their modern Switch games! Adding an element of randomization to the environment is going to be a fucking disaster, it will make Starfield look good.
 
Considering that the best way Gamefreak thought to make Luminose in ZA is to quite literally map the entire city as one large model
I'm not a fan of that decision, but people are kind of blowing it out of proportion. With a static map, you can use the DOOM technique of binary space partitioning to render them very efficiently, and you can even do stuff with collision by baking in brushes a la quake. There's also stuff you can do with octrees to improve rendering efficiency further.
TL;DR it sounds hackier than it actually is, BSP requires the layout to be static so it can be baked in, which with a unified model is pretty reasonable
 
It can't even run on the switch 2.
The Switch had enough issues with "controller drift" BS and 3 rechargeable lithium ion batteries which can swell and cannot be removed (either literally or the system cannot run without them). I don't think I'm gonna get a Switch 2 for that alone. Not even getting into that big list of other issues (game prices, lack of physical copies...) here.
 
I'm not a fan of that decision, but people are kind of blowing it out of proportion. With a static map, you can use the DOOM technique of binary space partitioning to render them very efficiently, and you can even do stuff with collision by baking in brushes a la quake. There's also stuff you can do with octrees to improve rendering efficiency further.
TL;DR it sounds hackier than it actually is, BSP requires the layout to be static so it can be baked in, which with a unified model is pretty reasonable
>Gamefreak
>Efficiency
 
I don't know how some people can look at the later pocketmon vidya and magically not see a definite decline in quality. Must be some kind of selective vision or something...

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I don't know how some people can look at the later pocketmon vidya and magically not see a definite decline in quality. Must be some kind of selective vision or something...

:thinking:.
Mental retardation, same kind where they can't define what a "fan" of the franchise is because they themselves aren't one. Blind consoomers that buy buy buy everything in sight don't count, real fans dropped out a long time ago, for the most part. This kind of subhuman isn't capable of understanding that the games suck, they see a Pikachu, they clap, they play for 2 hours and then they wait until the next game or DLC drops. Even if they do see the declining quality, they already paid for the game so they will cope until they make it to defend their purchase. Gamefreak knows this, once customers accepted Dexit it was over, they realized they could get away with anything and they have.
I mean, DOOM I/II and Quake rendering tech are taught as foundations for a lot of rendering techniques. Almost every major 3D game engine these days has some quake II code in it
You're brave to think Gamefreak could even recreate something as simple as Doom or Quake even with modern day Switch software. They don't even have anymore talent that knows how to work on their own engine anymore, the leaks show that they are moving on to Unreal just like everyone else, altho Unreal 4 unlike Unreal 5 for some reason. Likely too complicated for them to understand, when even your average jeet can do that.
 
real fans dropped out a long time ago, for the most part
I guess that's my story.

I got into 'mon quite a bit back when there was that first craze back when Gen 1 was new and 2 was on the horizon. Was still into it by Gen 3. Interest started to fade with 4 though not that much. I was not really interested in BW at the time, but I did like BW2. I never got X or Y when they first came out, though I did like the Gen 3 remake and I got Y version around a decade after it came out -- the last core 'mon vidya I got. I just was not that interested in Gen 7 for some reason. Then the games started getting that "watered down smartphone" feel. Then I found out about the removing of 'dex entries in Gen 7, then the removal of 'mons entirely in the later vidyas. And as of SV, a certain kind of political influence started creeping in. So yeah, I guess I pretty much dropped out ...
 
You're brave to think Gamefreak could even recreate something as simple as Doom or Quake even with modern day Switch software. They don't even have anymore talent that knows how to work on their own engine anymore, the leaks show that they are moving on to Unreal just like everyone else, altho Unreal 4 unlike Unreal 5 for some reason. Likely too complicated for them to understand, when even your average jeet can do that.
I guess I'm still holding onto a shred of hope that people know how to do things in the software industry
 
I know I shouldn't get mad at the internet, but the more I look at the human design in new pokemon games, the angrier I get.
I think I saw nothing as emotionless, hollow (despite of their overdesigned clothes and hair with pointless trinkets) and devoid of humanity.
I genuinely think Kris from Deltarune is more expressive, you don't even see his eye nor change expression, his range of expressing emotions goes as far as lowering his head by a pixel he enters home and find his drunken mom dancing with the nigger skeleton and he's still more human and expressive than the human characters in modern pokemon games.
Hell. THE PROTAGONIST FROM HOLLOW KNIGHT, a fucking blob of eldritch horror trapped in the dead body of a dead, baby BUG, designed to be emotionless, souless, thoughtless is more expressive than human characters in modern pokemon games, and he has the kind of souless black eyes you see in monsters.
 
You know what I love? Finding out about the deep lore of Legendary Pokemon thru fucking leaks because none of it is communicated thru the game or other official media. First it was Arceus and now I am finding out all the deep lore behind Zygarde and why it's in Alola. What a fucking joke. They had time to write up Typhlosion rape folklore stories that didn't even make it to the final game but nobody put as much as a single NPC explaining anything about Zygarde in Alola, in the final game it's just a mindless collectathon if you want the 100% form and that's it. The cave you actually find Zygarde in has absolutely nothing regarding lore or why it's even there.
 
his franchise has people by the nostalgia-balls, and they will guzzle the slop until they die. I guzzled the slop for way, way too long and I really wish I quit much sooner.
I stopped paying attention to Pokémon when X and Y came out. Gen V was weird with its designs and I hated the starters back then, but they were nowhere near as stupid looking as the last gen and they've sort of grown on me.

Besides that and no battle tower, Black 2 and White 2 were peak. Shit felt like it was moving towards a more mature and sophisticated direction. Then X and Y released and it was 4 steps back to brain dead baby game with shit 3D slop comparable to N64 models. Don't know where you stopped but X and Y was where Pokémon died and became pure slop imo.
 
I'm not a fan of that decision, but people are kind of blowing it out of proportion. With a static map, you can use the DOOM technique of binary space partitioning to render them very efficiently, and you can even do stuff with collision by baking in brushes a la quake. There's also stuff you can do with octrees to improve rendering efficiency further.
TL;DR it sounds hackier than it actually is, BSP requires the layout to be static so it can be baked in, which with a unified model is pretty reasonable
Seems quite :optimistic: to think GameFreak had any of that in mind (let alone thinking they actually did that) for this game given how it looks/runs. I’m reminded of occasions where people played devil’s advocate for Yandev or Maldy by thinking up some edge-case example where the given code could be fine rather than just going with the obvious explanation of it being a product of sheer laziness/incompetency.
 
I was gonna get a switch 2 just for the new legends game but that shit is such ass I think I’m just done with the franchise. This and the utter dogshit performance of scarlet and violet have sealed the deal. I’m just gonna obsess over other retarded autistic Asian shit now. FUCK!
 
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