Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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LanternsNSongs said:
Dragon Quest Monsters and Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei did that way before Pokemon.

Edit: Wizardry 4 as well.
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IIRC, Winchester got sued over the 1893 shotgun by someone claiming they ripped off his design. Winchester won when they found blueprints for a similar gun that predated the plaintiff’s.

Get fucked Nintendo because there’s precedent here.
 
Holy fucking shit, I love playing summoner classes in games and I can't fucking imagine nintoddlers would take it away from me because some retard jap has a hateboner for a game that is better than anything game fuck released in 10 years.
 
Pokemon isn't even the only game Nintendo has been patenting random unenforceable shit for. They got a bunch of patents for Tears of the Kingdom that essentially amount to basic physics that hundreds of games do.
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They have all sorts of random shit like a patent for the idea of the player character automatically looking at interactable objects.
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And y'know, way back in the day Nintendo and Intelligent Systems sued Shouzou Kaga and his company for making TearRing Saga as a competitor for Fire Emblem. People often point out that Kaga and his company lost the suit as far they got hit with fines for bad advertising practices for directly comparing TearRing to FE in ads and interviews and stuff, but what's not talked about as much is that Nintendo and IS also lost on the other thing they were suing on, where they accused Kaga of violating their copyright and effectively claiming they owned the concept of the entire turn-based SRPG genre, which the Japanese courts rejected.
 
Imagine you're playing D&D with your friends, you pick druid, and nintendo sends a swat team in
 
Cedric_Eff said:
It’s funny how despite all the computing power possible, Game Freak themselves treat the animations for it like it’s still 2d Pokemon.
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Having seen the trailer for Beast of Reincarnation
compared to the shovelware that is Scarlet and Violet (alongside all the lazy designs from the newer gens in recent years), I’ve been fully convinced that they’re just sick of making Pokémon at this point. Frankly, I can’t even blame them because they’ve been doing it for so long and it’s been made readily apparent to them that the quality of the end product doesn’t affect sales. They need to start letting other studios make spin-offs again (that aren’t shitty mobile games).
 
Jarch6 said:
alongside all the lazy designs from the newer gens in recent years
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Nah, I'll die on this hill. Gen 9 is the best designed new gen of Pokemon since Gen 2. TPC outsources this job anyway and frankly, whatever new talent they acquired at the Monster creating co. did a great job. I really like Gen 9 overall, some of them are even funny inside jokes like Dudunsparce. Fans clamored for over a decade, maybe close to two, for a Dunsparce evolution and nearly 20 years later despite all the fan art, TPC gives them a slightly longer Dunsparce. I'm sorry but that will never not be funny.
 
Jarch6 said:
Having seen the trailer for Beast of Reincarnation
compared to the shovelware that is Scarlet and Violet (alongside all the lazy designs from the newer gens in recent years), I’ve been fully convinced that they’re just sick of making Pokémon at this point. Frankly, I can’t even blame them because they’ve been doing it for so long and it’s been made readily apparent to them that the quality of the end product doesn’t affect sales. They need to start letting other studios make spin-offs again (that aren’t shitty mobile games).
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I said the same thing when the trailer for that game first dropped, GF must be sick and tired of making Pokemon games yet they can't stop because they make too much money.

And tbh Beast of Reincarnation looks like your standard Unreal particle effect simulator, there were even framerate issues in the trailer.
 
X-avier cuck said:
chat, what are your top five mons from each gen?
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How are you going to ask for Top 5, when you have six in your party? I'm going to do six, so consider it a bonus. I will also try to avoid duplicates appearing in another generation, to keep it more interesting.

GEN 1:
Gengar. Kingler. Nidoking. Snorlax. Ninetales. Starmie.

GEN 2:
Feraligatr. Magneton. Tyranitar. Lanturn. Forretress. Scizor.

GEN 3:
Swampert. Ludicolo. Milotic. Breloom. Flygon. Metagross.

GEN 4:
Infernape. Mismagius. Garchomp. Hippowdon. Toxicroak. Gliscor.

GEN 5:
Excadrill. Chandelure. Seismitoad. Reuniclus. Jellicent. Ferrothorn.

GEN 6:
Greninja. Aegislash. Noivern. Dragalge. Gogoat. Talonflame.

GEN 7:
Primarina. Toxapex. Alolan Ninetales. Shiinotic. Araquanid. Decidueye.

GEN 8 and on:
Have not played.


I started with GEN 1 and phased out near the end of GEN 2. Missed GEN 3 initially, got back in with GEN 4 and stayed until the end of GEN 5. Missed GEN 6 initially, but got back in with GEN 7. Since then, I have gone back and played through GEN 3 and GEN 6.

My favorite overall generation is GEN 4, which was a love letter to a lot of previous generation Pokemon, such as Yanma, Murkrow, and Gligar. The physical/special split was a, mostly, good thing in my opinion. Of course, it did my boy Sceptile dirty.

Pokemon started losing me when Mega Evolutions debuted. I was originally fine with them being for Pokemon who already had 3 forms, but would have preferred other Pokemon, like Mawile, just got a second evolution instead. Also, give my boy Feraligatr his Mega Evolution. This, along with how much of a headache it is to transfer Pokemon over to newer games, and the gimmicks have slowly turned me away from the series. But I will always enjoy the games I have played.
 
This whole Palworld predicament is very interesting.

Before this, whenever the Pokémon company inflicted DMCA takedowns on fangames and hacks, the fandom claimed tha th is lawfare motivated by the official games not being able to compete with 'superior' fan games, completely ignoring that fangames and especially fanhacks are forms of copyright infringement, even if no profit is involved.

Palworld is the opposite: despite the flagrant ripping off some character designs, others are just parodies of general RPG tropes and still others are actually distinctive. Palworld itself is a big parody of Pokémon in general while playing functionally different from the official Pokémon games: some actually compared Palworld to Ark. Another important part is Palworld actually outselling the official, horribly buggy Pokémon Scarlet and Violet, something n other Pokéclone managed to do. (Did temtem ever manage to land a dent on Pokémon Sword and Shield, even with all of the hype in the wake of Dexit?) Of course, Palworld being a true and honest independent company managing a competently-coded game helps things.

The lawsuit based on Pokéballs, while trampling on the clearly parodic take those spheres, had plausible deniablility, bu that lawsuit on the gliding mechanic made the lawfare clear. Then the Pokémon company becomes even mor exceptional by suddenly claiming a patent on summoning a fighter helper, something tha the Megami Tensei series used way before Pokémon was a thing. Even more ironically, per what @XYZpdq Jr. mentioned, the Pokéballs were inspired by Ultraseven, in which Ultraman summoned other Kaiju helpers by using capsules; in fact, 'capsule monsters', the term referring to those Kaiju, was the prototype name of Pokémon. A this point, I wonder if this fact was ever used in court in defending Palworld.

What I noticed is th exten the Pokémon company is trying to defeat Palworld legally, though I feel tha the Pokémon company is trying to defeat Palworld with a more all-encompassing lawsuit whenever Palworld adjusts itself. While claiming tha this would be the downfall of Pokémon is fun, I feel tha the Pokémon company, being able to literally profit off glitchfests, let alone merchandise, can simply absorb all of the costs of the lawsuits. Meanwhile, I am not sure if the consequences of the lawsuits if the Pokémon company wins ar either exaggerated or will have massive unforseen consequences.
 
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Thinking that the new Mega Evolution designs aren't going to be all like the lazy G-Max forms where only a few are actually well-designed and the rest are just "Pokemon but a part of them is bigger".
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The DLC ones were especially notable of that. I am interested to see if Starmie actually does do something interesting with its long legs concept.
 
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