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We all have a favorite Pokemon, but do you have former favorites as well? Pokemon that you used to love, but that have been "dethroned" by another mon?
Dunno if it counts, but I used to consider Mew my favorite because "it was objectively the best one." I've never been one for favorites in general I could wake up tomorrow and have a new favorite, the only consistency in my favorites is that my favorites all tend to be from the same pool of ~50-odd designs but I felt like I needed to have one as a kid, so I'd always just say Mew.

Anyways, yeah, I guess Mew. I really grew out of my love for that thing as I aged, both because I'm not a huge fan of its design (cool concept done very blandly) and because I just don't care. I don't know why, I've just completely stopped caring for the thing and it's very strange. Deoxys does everything interesting about it better, and I personally don't care much for the "every move including Transform" thing because it always just feels off to see Mew using stuff like Steel Wing or Mega Punch despite it being a stumpy kangaroo cat thing. Maybe if it had some freaky animations where it demonstrated an unorthodox way of using the moves I'd be more interested, but as-is it just feels wrong.

My first Pokemon game was Battle Revolution and I'd always pick Cyndy to use the cool fire dinosaur.
To this day I still like the second stage Kanto starters more than the base forms and the evolutions because of PBR.
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Slugma, right up until i tried to use it in a nuzlocke.
oh god, tell me about it. I still like it, but I was so much more enthusiastic about it until I had to suffer through using it in Heart Gold. Never again, dear god. I shudder to think of how much worse it was in gens 2-3.
 
Anyways, yeah, I guess Mew. I really grew out of my love for that thing as I aged, both because I'm not a huge fan of its design (cool concept done very blandly) and because I just don't care. I don't know why, I've just completely stopped caring for the thing and it's very strange. Deoxys does everything interesting about it better, and I personally don't care much for the "every move including Transform" thing because it always just feels off to see Mew using stuff like Steel Wing or Mega Punch despite it being a stumpy kangaroo cat thing. Maybe if it had some freaky animations where it demonstrated an unorthodox way of using the moves I'd be more interested, but as-is it just feels wrong.
Mew's pretty bland, but then that's kind of the point, to be the "blank slate" that all other Pokemon evolved from (in the Darwinian sense, not Pokemon sense).

I did have a favorite that I just kinda stopped caring about after Charmeleon, Cobalion. It was the first legendary I caught after blacking out several times (I didn't savescum back then), and cleaving random NPCs with Sacred Sword was funny. But nowadays I don't feel as strongly towards it. I still like it, but the boot hooves look weird and its face looks vaguely like Serperior, not to mention that its animation looked stiff even in gen 5.
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Glad to know I'm not the only one lol. I got a Wii before getting my 3DS, so it was PBR and PokePark that introduced me to Pokemon.
 
it always just feels off to see Mew using stuff like Steel Wing or Mega Punch despite it being a stumpy kangaroo cat thing.
I just imagine Mew is using some telekinesis or manipulation of air for that, though I assume it's related to Transform in that Mew can just become any Pokémon and therefore have access to those moves without issue regardless if the Pokémon in front of it knows those moves at that moment.

We all have a favorite Pokemon, but do you have former favorites as well? Pokemon that you used to love, but that have been "dethroned" by another mon?
Typically if I like a Pokémon, it takes a lot to "dethrone" it. I'm not into Lucario as much anymore like I was in the past, and honestly, I couldn't tell you why. I recognize he's cool and all, and the eighth movie helped a lot, but for some reason I'm just all "meh" about the line at this point.

In terms of the Fighting-type, never had a favorite so I would go with Lucario even though I really like Blaziken, though I think that title goes to Bewear now. I'd happily die for a hug any time.
 
We all have a favorite Pokemon, but do you have former favorites as well? Pokemon that you used to love, but that have been "dethroned" by another mon?
I thought of some candidates, and I can feel myself instinctively liking them more as some sort of defense mechanism. I could never betray my guys by acknowledging this about them, or even by letting it be true.
 
I haven't played Pokemon since middle school when I bought Blue the week it was released, but I've been having cravings to play again. What are the best Pokemon games of the modern era for Switch or 3DS?
 
What are the best Pokemon games of the modern era for Switch or 3DS?
That depends on what you value most in a Pokémon game.
- first 3D game, so it doesn't go crazy trying to reinvent things
- comfy French aesthetic, they seemed very proud of what they'd made and eager to show it off, feels a bit short at times
- made super easy very early though a gift Pokémon, but you can just stick it in a box
- introduces mega evolution, where select Pokémon get to hold their own specific item that lets them change their form, their stats, and often their ability and their typing
- Kalos has the smallest addition to the overall list of Pokémon, but that's not counting mega-evolved forms
- able to use poké radar for shinies
- able to use RNG manipulation for shinies / IVs
- introduces trainer customization
- close remake of the Gen 3 games
- you occasionally feel the age in the game design, but they've added a ton of polish
- also added a ton of side elements and postgame stuff to do
- made super easy very early though a gift Pokémon, but you can just stick it in a box
- keeps mega evolution and adds a bunch more mega-evolved forms
- able to use RNG manipulation for shinies / IVs
- where the fuck else are you gonna get a Deoxys?
- no trainer customization
- really just the Ultra games with fewer features, look at those instead
- fantastic vibe, but even still, it feels like it doesn't take advantage of the tropical island aesthetic anywhere near as much as it could've
- different version of gym challenges, just dumb running around at first, and then a tough double battle against a super-strong Pokémon and its rotating cast of allies
- got rid of HMs, but instead, you summon and ride around on strangers' Pokémon that you have no connection to, feels weird, and you have to wear a dorky outfit while doing it

- each island feels small, parts are skipped over, and each route feels very short, but the game overall is still fairly lengthy
- has a bunch of cutscenes, but I don't understand why they get so much hate, they're fine, sometimes even charming
- keeps mega evolution from Gen 6, but I don't think you encounter it until the postgame
- lets you hunt a ton of past generations' legendaries in a frustrating minigame
- introduces bottle caps to let you max out IVs
- able to use RNG manipulation for shinies / IVs
- it's the last game that has a full pokédex, but you'll need to transfer a few things up from earlier games if you want to complete it
- good trainer customization, somewhat restricted early on
- feels like the most refined version of the style all of the previous main-series games (before Gen 9 changed the direction a bit)
- some parts of the "traditional Pokémon game" are their best version in the series, some parts are simplified, but no part of it feels like it's been gutted or anything
- introduces a ton of postgame quality-of-life changes for competitive battling, letting you change natures, abilities, etc.
- drops mega evolution, but introduces Dynamax instead, where your Pokémon gets really big, doubles their health, and gets access to boosted moves
- first game to exclude Pokémon from the game's pokédex, big controversy, but you might not notice it

- two big DLCs add a ton of new areas, Pokémon, and quality-of-life features to get resources
- able to use RNG manipulation for shinies / IVs
- I'm still playing this one, so I can't say if anything pops up later to ruin it all, but I really like it so far
- the best trainer customization, a bit restricted early on
- very, very close remake of the Gen 4 games with better graphics overlaid on the same old systems and world
- good if you like the classic feel of the older games, bad if you wanted something new

- keeps the more-limited Diamond & Pearl pokédex instead of the expanded one from Platinum, also doesn't include or allow you to transfer in any Pokémon from after Gen 4
- expanded underground exploration & postgame encounters with more Pokémon
- replaces the Pal Park that Gen 4 used for transferring from Gen 3 with Ramanas Park, which you can use to get past generations' legendaries
- full of new game-breaking glitches that you can fuck around with
- able to use RNG manipulation for shinies / IVs
- it's kino
- some trainer customization
- it's the Gen 1 games (AGAIN)
- great presentation, fantastic music
- casual as hell, oriented toward younger kids
- replaces wild battles with the ball-throwing accuracy minigame from Pokémon GO
- good for variety, bad if you want normal battles
- doesn't play like a normal Pokémon game
- you're running around doing Metal Gear Solid stealth action shit half the time

- tons of new / changed systems to learn for battle systems, moves, stats, encounters, etc.
- you can catch stuff in this game that you will either struggle to get or that you simply can't get anywhere else
- if you want a Manaphy, it's either this or the Gen 4 fan server events
- open-world game, which is good if you like it, bad if you don't
- but being in charge of your own direction definitely feels very new & different
- graphics have rough edges, decade-old textures, framerate struggles at times, old menus and displays are really stripped down
- runs way, way better on a Switch 2
- three different "main story" campaigns, lots to do, feels really big in a lot of ways, but kind of empty in others
- still doesn't have a complete pokédex, but it's closer to "complete" than Sword & Shield's was
- drops Dynamax and adds the Terastalization mechanic, lets you change a Pokémon's type for defensive advantages and an offensive type boost
- Terastalization is widely regarded as the best, most-competitively-interesting, and most-balanced new gimmick out of all of the gimmicks that Game Freak has been trying for a while
- two big DLCs add a ton of new areas, Pokémon, and quality-of-life features
- shiny-hunting is piss-easy (with sandwiches, of all things)
- breeding is slower and more frustrating
- this is the current game, which is relevant if you want to get into online battling, or if you want to play the game that's still actively receiving mystery gifts
- ONLY able to use RNG manipulation for the item printer thing, but if you want a bunch of rare balls and resources, go wild
- very little trainer customization, almost every outfit makes you look like a fucking dweeb

Also, if you're willing to look at games on the 3DS, then it'll play games all the way back to Gen 4.
That's Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, Heart Gold, Soul Silver, Black, White, Black 2, and White 2. If you can find them for a reasonable price, they're each worth considering, too.
And, if you have a DS that you can use, then you can connect to a fan-run server to get access to the old events and catch some legendaries that you'll have few other ways of getting (none at all for some of them).

If you want to keep any Pokémon from the DS / 3DS games with you into the future, then you should either get a 3DS that already has Poké Transfer and Pokémon Bank downloaded on it (since the download isn't officially available anymore), or mod your 3DS and download them (the easier option).
 
Slugma, right up until i tried to use it in a nuzlocke.

I still really enjoy the slugma line's design, but they are absolutely trash when using them early in a playthrough. I'm fully convinced if Magcargo gets a regional variant they're going to make it part ice. I have no hope left for good regionals or modern mon, for the most part. Maybe they'll give it a good regional for once? :optimistic:
You can probably guess why I nicknamed my Slugma 'Kenny in Pokémon Colosseum.

At everyone supporting Vanilla Crystal, I should bring up again tha there is a list of glitches that Pokémon Crystal has, including the mixup between Dragon Scale and Ragon Fang, some status ailments not affecting the catch rate, some Apricorn balls not working correctly, and Teleport always working by a wild Pokémon. One reason why I suggest hacks is the player's experience getting hampered by these glitches.
 
I feel that was the year when DS PokéROM hackin got viable.
I wonder what happened in 2015, though.
It's probably never going to take off, the reason Gen 3 has a massive amount of ROM hacks is because it's so easy to create everything, a child could do it all, it's all 2D.

The DS games have 3D environments, they are basic models but now you have to be a 3D modeller, so you might as well go all the way to Gen 7. Creating the models for a 3DS is barely a higher work load than Gen 4.
 
I haven't played Pokemon since middle school when I bought Blue the week it was released, but I've been having cravings to play again. What are the best Pokemon games of the modern era for Switch or 3DS?
Pokemon Sun & Moon is the only decent one there. If you haven't played Crystal (sequel to Blue) that's the best game in the series and is on 3DS.

Easy, it's critiquing age of consent and bestiality laws.

I finished let’s go eevee and I hated that you couldn’t battle wild Pokemon to grind experience.
Once I found out Mew was locked behind an expensive peripheral I wrote the game off. Then I learned your mom is a nigger for some reason or something gay and woke like that, and I was really glad I didn't play it.
 
Once I found out Mew was locked behind an expensive peripheral I wrote the game off. Then I learned your mom is a nigger for some reason or something gay and woke like that, and I was really glad I didn't play it.
I don't think they actually race swapped anybody from the original RGBY games, that was the Diamond/Pearl remake that added unnecessary black NPCs. Your mom in both LGPE and SM just has a tan.
 
I don't think they actually race swapped anybody from the original RGBY games, that was the Diamond/Pearl remake that added unnecessary black NPCs. Your mom in both LGPE and SM just has a tan.
Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification.
 
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