Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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30+GameOvers said:
No thanks, I don't need a glorified Battle Tower clone from some whiny leftie when literally every game in Gen 3 and onwards(until Gen 9) has one integrated in the main game.
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I'll be honest, as a kid the Battle Tower was the facility I always liked the least in the Battle Frontier. All the other ones had something that either involved the overworld or played with the mechanics of the battles to make them more interesting, but the Tower is just a strait gauntlet with an axe to grind. I still remember thinking myself particularly clever by Pal Parking in a Shedninja and using Skill Swap on Spiritomb to blow through the double battles only to encounter the unblockable Fire Fang.
 
Alright lads, 2024 is on its deathbed and we've heard jack squat about the future of the franchise unless you count those 2026 world championship leaks, I guess, and the Gaia/ K & N discussion that came with it. It's prediction time!

What do you think 2025 will look like for the franchise? Personally, I think:
  • Z-A trailer on Pokémon Day, release in either Q1 or Q2 of 2025. Gen 10 will be announced simultaneously because Legends will be forever shafted.
  • Z-A will come out for Switch 1 and not be as good as PLA, mostly criticized for its SV-tier graphics and lack of scope. Won't be as buggy a mess as SV but it'll still get backlash from normal people or hardcores for having enough bugs to be noticeable. Still going to be better than the main series, but there won't be much evolution of the PLA formula and the story being dogshit will really start getting annoying. Mainstream reviews will bemoan the lack of Switch 2 enhancements and complain that it isn't cross-platform, similarly to how they reacted to BW2.
  • Z-A will get more time to shine than PLA did, purely due to GF panicking because of leaks and needing to fix shit behind the scenes before giving more Gaia info. Speculation will continue on until a little before the holiday season, at which point Gen 10 will get some more information on it and continue being marketed somewhat consistently until release (in 2026. It's not gonna be released in 2025. No fucking way they do that again when '26 is an anniversary year.)
  • obligatory mobile game spin-off section (mobile games will continue getting top billing), with GO now being quietly sidelined for Masters and TCG Pocket after GO's nonstop controversies

  • Anime will probably wrap up an arc or two and start shilling Gaia quietly after the Paldea trio reach their final evolutions. Z-A will get a mini-arc at best unless they need more filler between Z-A release and Gaia's marketing campaign. I have an inkling it'll get a little more spotlight in the anime than PLA did, but that's such a low bar that I feel like it's a safe bet.
  • A new movie will be announced for 2026 to spotlight the series' anniversary, but little info will be given. Might star Ash, might star Liko, might star both? Depends on how much they want to pander I think.
  • At least one web series revolving around Z-A, like Hisuian Snow but with more episodes and worse-quality animation.
  • this isn't anime but probably a few bits of news around Pokémon x Aardman, like leaked screenshots or a basic premise as it enters production

  • the game will continue being horribly scalped :(

will happen, but I'm curious to hear if anyone else has some more rational thoughts lol. I seriously have no clue what GF is going to do about the leaks. It took them 2 months to scrub the most obvious sources of that info, even when one of them was fucking Google, so it's like a 50/50 chance they either never acknowledge them and go ahead with their plans like nothing ever happened or completely scrap everything, panic, and put out worse products at completely different times solely to make the leaks useless.

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Anonitolia said:
What do you think 2025 will look like for the franchise?
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Don't give two fucks. Romhacks and fan content are the bloodline of this franchise, as they always were, new generations just serve to bring more new Pokemon and new underage characters for the fanbase to make porn of. ZA is going to be mediocre and people will kiss it's ass for merely doing something, ANYTHING different than the mainline games, just like they did with Arceus, Gen 10 is going to be even more broken and unfinished and people will buy it anyways(I think the main reason the leaker didn't want to show anything off from the new games is because they're already looking rough) and mobile gacha garbage will continue to overtake the actual console games in popularity. I hope we can get some actual mods for newer games and proper romhacks that give us a 1-1 recreation of what the older games were originally going to look like, we have both the tools and design documents to make it happen now just like with Supergold97.
 
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Information about the various pokemon manga around, even the very rare stuff, check this RS oneshot one
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30+GameOvers said:
Don't give two fucks. Romhacks and fan content are the bloodline of this franchise, as they always were, new generations just serve to bring more new Pokemon and new underage characters for the fanbase to make porn of. ZA is going to be mediocre and people will kiss it's ass for merely doing something, ANYTHING different than the mainline games, just like they did with Arceus, Gen 10 is going to be even more broken and unfinished and people will buy it anyways(I think the main reason the leaker didn't want to show anything off from the new games is because they're already looking rough) and mobile gacha garbage will continue to overtake the actual console games in popularity. I hope we can get some actual mods for newer games and proper romhacks that give us a 1-1 recreation of what the older games were originally going to look like, we have both the tools and design documents to make it happen now just like with Supergold97.
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I don't disagree, I just find it very funny that your predictions were basically identical to mine with slightly less detail and a lot more cynicism.

I'd love to see rom hacks restoring the beta content of games like XY and SM, but I don't think those can happen? I don't know, I've heard something about them being out of reach because working on actual leaked builds would be outright illegal or something. It doesn't really matter either way because I do not trust ROM hackers to restore old or lost media without tampering with it, but it's a thought.

Maybe if someone went through the effort they'd need to do stuff like reinstate XY's lighting system or the southern half of the region through solely modding a release copy of the game it could happen, but would that really be as accurate?
 
Anonitolia said:
I don't know, I've heard something about them being out of reach because working on actual leaked builds would be outright illegal
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Oh yes, downloading leaked files is alright but editing them in any way? Now THAT is crossing the line.
Just more Gamefreak bootlicker cope, people will find a way to restore that content one way or another, I hope.
 
Just found the birthday feature in ORAS. After around a decade.

Thought game froze for a moment when entering a pokemon center.

(I have the "birthday" set to New Year's Day on my 3DS system.)
 
30+GameOvers said:
Oh yes, downloading leaked files is alright but editing them in any way? Now THAT is crossing the line.
Just more Gamefreak bootlicker cope, people will find a way to restore that content one way or another, I hope.
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No, dumbass, it's the same principle of using any of Nintendo's source in something separate that you make. They'll whip your ass with a cane and sue you.
 
I don't know if it's been posted here but Lewtwo - a prominent twitter account who has been archives and remastering Pokemon assets for the past two years - has been releasing a bunch of the original Ken Sugimori character art over the past couple of months. While screencaps are available on twitter and, presumably, in his publicly accessible Discord, he also keeps everything in a well-organized google drive archive that is unhelpfully not publicly advertised.
 
Why are Earthquake, Explosion, and Surf not moves that always work?

How can a pocketmon dodge a thing that goes out in every direction?
 
VargReallyDidNothingWrong said:
Thinking of getting back into Pokémon Go.
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Don't. Trust me that it's getting worse.



Anonitolia said:
Alright lads, 2024 is on its deathbed and we've heard jack squat about the future of the franchise unless you count those 2026 world championship leaks, I guess, and the Gaia/ K & N discussion that came with it. It's prediction time!

What do you think 2025 will look like for the franchise? Personally, I think:
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For video games, TPC will either try to make Z-A less of a rushed games or they're going to try to get away with releasing another sloppy game like SV. I guarantee you it will be more woke than SV. When more Megas will get leaked and announced, you're going to see some excited people, especially from the Pokemon Go scene. As for the anime, you're not going to see Ash unless they want to diminish him for girlboss Lyko and her DEI buddy Roy. Some Paldea Pokemon are popular, but the anime is still struggling to win people over (that said, season 2 is a little better from what I'm hearing). The TCG side...I don't know. I don't play the TCG game, but I don't see it stopping unless they do something stupid. PoGo is getting closer to the total number of Pokemon in the franchise, but now we're hitting lameass and Shiny-locked territories (SV's aren't really coded to exist because a lot of the "shinies" look really bad). I don't know how players are going to be excited for shiny-locked bosses. Max Out was a disaster of a season.

fogger said:
Pokemon Go is genuinely pretty fun. Niantic is still doing events all the time and there is a community day coming up January 5th for sprigatito!
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Not really. I got back into it last February, and it's been a mixed ride. Now there's a new pvp cheat where you can freeze someone out of the game, but you can beat his/her team. PVP is beyond fucked. Raids are still broken, and nobody out of spoofers really likes the Dynamx (nobody is doing 3*s) and Gigantamax content (If it weren't for Stardust, nobody would do Gmax fights because they're too costly and too demanding even for whales). People still hate the new avatars, and we're getting a new DEI model that looks like it came from Dustborn called Mia.

Sprigatito is garbage compared to Venusaur and Rilaboom (even Kartana is better than Meowscarda after nerfs). If it weren't for the Stardust boost, nobody would bother with a shitty Paldea starter (Get a Venusar and build a Shaymin or Celebi if you're a new player. They're significantly better). Right now, we got the Fidough Fetch event, and if the stardust boost from that event won't be applied to tomorrow's community day and Tuesday's spotlight hour, less people are going to give a shit.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
Why are Earthquake, Explosion, and Surf not moves that always work?

How can a pocketmon dodge a thing that goes out in every direction?
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I mean you can make that argument for Fissure as well. It's a more powerful Earthquake after all.

Also Sheer Cold, the move that is supposed to freeze pokemon to death because of the temperature being so cold that it kills, can be avoided.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
I mean you can make that argument for Fissure as well. It's a more powerful Earthquake after all.
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Didn't mean power, I meant direction. Fissure seems to imply a straight line while earthquake implies everywhere. Same with Surf too.

In other words, if a move can get both ally and opponent 'mons (like Explosion or Surf), then why does it even have an accuracy stat?
 
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I haven't touched this series since Diamond and Pearl, are there any new ones worth playing? (Have any surpassed the peak of Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness?) I remember seeing screenshots on /v/ of one of the Switch games looking like absolute N64-era dogshit so preferably not that one.
 
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