Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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chimpSculpture said:
It's just a different (better imo) experience. You can call it a different gameplay experience, but having the encounter music suddenly play, the short suspense before the species is shown is just all gone now.

I think caves and surfing across large bodies of water were annoying because all tiles could have an encounter and that made it feel uncontrollable and unpredictably. Tall grass was visible and in patches so you didn't have those two problems. If I made a Pokémon game I'd make the caves have barely visible dark patches be the tall grass, and maybe foggy over water or rough water for surfing.

They're supposed to be wild animals but now they just feel like 3D models playing an animation until their collision box collides with yours.
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The anemic animations are definitely a huge part of the problem. I could rag on GF for not doing better work on those but it's kind of absurd to ask for detailed animations for hundreds of creatures. Which is why visual obfuscation is such a big help- both to generic-ize the model itself so it can be used across multiple species and to hide animations or lack thereof from the player.
Patches in caves/water where wild mons can spawn, or spawn more frequently, or where they can only spawn outside of them in bubbling/dust spots like from Gen 5, is also a good idea. It's just a matter of designing a good experience, man.

Hell you don't even need to stick to tiled maps for this, the game I'm working on has 3d modeled maps and I just have collision polygons defining encounter areas.
 
On my Glazed Gold edition... I found some bugs... First it was levelibg that tyranossaur pokemon up to lvl 39 for him to evolve into... The same pokémon. Bugged shit.

Then I found this dragon who sucked ass and it evolves at lvl 50


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Guess what? It evolved... Into a fucking bulbassaur

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My team fucking sucks, but the overall encounters are so bad, it really looks like an official pokémon game where the encounters are so scruffed.

I will challenge the E4 tomorrow, so far Glazed feels really weird: the character sprites are basically recolors and the original characters are so fucking lame and badly made, this wouldn't be a problem if the whole game was like this, but it isn't. The map is so fucking well made and excelent. The victory road doesn't make me kill myself and it was challenging. The scale leveling is excelent with the enemies.

The story so far is really bad, we got this item that allows us to speak with pokemon and our main rival is a pikachu with scarf that can talk and is beyond lame. The overall story is about a family of villains where the guy's plan is to capture the dialga/palkia/giratina to summon mew and use it to create the ultimate TM and profit from it. Nothing special with the other characters too, the gym leaders have zero personality and no participation on the story. There is a human rival I guess.

It is such a weird game. If someone took the routing and overall map and made a whole different story with better characters, it would become a totally new and improved game.

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Also one major problems are the HM as usual. They increase the status on those so they are useful and you can remove without move deleter, but jesus, 8 hms + rock slide was too much.

I found some pokemon that looks like fakemon that looks really fucking good tho.
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One major problem is money, you barely have money or itens to be found on the map and I mean it. They also removed all shitty tms and every good tm is on the game and you can reuse it but there are some pokemon that can't learn almost no good tm, so all moveset are kinda weird.

Anyone else played the normal glazed version or this golden edition?
 
Horribadger said:
I could rag on GF for not doing better work on those but it's kind of absurd to ask for detailed animations for hundreds of creatures.
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Why? Just hire a bunch of animators and crank them out between generation 10 and 11, that'd be three years. A pokédex of 400 Pokémon (not including the ones with existing animations) times maybe 8 animations each at least, is 3,200 animations. GTA V supposedly has 150k animations for just the NPCs. GF is making enough money to justify it.
 
chimpSculpture said:
Why? Just hire a bunch of animators and crank them out between generation 10 and 11, that'd be three years. A pokédex of 400 Pokémon (not including the ones with existing animations) times maybe 8 animations each at least, is 3,200 animations. GTA V supposedly has 150k animations for just the NPCs. GF is making enough money to justify it.
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You know what I thought? Instead of using sprites or models, use live 2d to animate the artwork itself like a ken sugimori artwork that could work as a sprite

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Before sleeping yesterday I was thinking how to integrate the beta designs and cut pokémon from gen 3 in my dream emerald sequel game. As for cut designs they would appear after the hoenn region being flooded and new species would surge after some genetics/magic being involved with Mew/Evolott. Depending of the place, it would tie with the new pokémon in that place. As for all the beta designs. You know the Lost World novel by Doyle? That is the gist of it: put another world bellow the meteor falls mountains where pokemon share the same origin but evolved in different ways, so a cool post game would be entering this underground world to see what happens there. So in the end the beta designs would become a regional variant inside their own region. I also would add some details about the newly information regarding the lost civilization underwater by Kyogre that originates Latios and Latias. And the remaining members of this civilization would be the Alto Mare citizens.
 
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chimpSculpture said:
Why? Just hire a bunch of animators and crank them out between generation 10 and 11, that'd be three years. A pokédex of 400 Pokémon (not including the ones with existing animations) times maybe 8 animations each at least, is 3,200 animations. GTA V supposedly has 150k animations for just the NPCs. GF is making enough money to justify it.
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Especially this generation, Nintendo is fucking swimming in unbacked debased fiat shekels money, there is no excuse to be cheap, other than the usual greed.
 
Executive Petrel said:
In paldea remakes (gen 27) that launches in the glorious times of white ethnostate, when schwab and fauci are long time dead and the orange man lives on as an ai powered holograph in an indestructible cyborg body powered by Tesla, there will be an evil organisation that tries to to troon out people like they did in 2022. They also forcefully breed Pokémon that look like inbetweeners. Like horribly torturing rapidash to become trans colored and cutting tinkatons dicks off to make them pass as an all female species.
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BW, which came out during the height of the Obama presidency, features an evil organization that tries to take away the equivalents of everyone's guns so they can establish a dictatorship.
 
Glazed update: I actually forgot that my hammer fairy was in the box and I used her quite early so I decided to pick her instead of the bugged venossaur. She was lvl 40 so I had to grind her so she could deal some damage since she wasa quite weak. This was the team before the E4
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Not very well balanced right? I expected some team with type advantage to sweep me. But I was wrong, the E4 team wasn't based on types but pokemon colors, so there was a gray, orange, black and purple teams.

I had some trouble with the 3 guy who took 2 members out. Until the champion... This nigga had a lvl 57 Darkrai who would sweep my whole team by outspeeding it. My only hope was literally my weakest member and glass canon of the team: grapploct. After some resets, I managed to heal him enough to be able to hit 2x

His last pokemon was umbreon. I had only grapploct alive and he had his umbreon. I managed to hit with close combat buffed with black belt and managed to win this fight.

I actually thought I was overlevel and I would if I didn't waste time leveling the tyrunt and bugged dragon/venossaur

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Now I will go to Johto to see what is going on

This is the team after Victory.
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It seems I'll have bouts of free time at work soon and I bought a Miyoo Mini Plus on 11.11. I'll have to get some romhacks on it. Pokemon perfect for bouts
 
Do you think Gen 1 and 2 have a creepy atmosphere? Not the whole Game but certain elements like the seafoam island and ruins of alph.
 
Executive Petrel said:
Do you think Gen 1 and 2 have a creepy atmosphere? Not the whole Game but certain elements like the seafoam island and ruins of alph.
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I'd say all Gen 1-5 games have segments with good creepy atmosphere (imo Sinnoh is the standout for me given its emphasis on mythos). Another casualty of the Gen 6+ retardation of Pokemon.
 
Executive Petrel said:
Do you think Gen 1 and 2 have a creepy atmosphere? Not the whole Game but certain elements like the seafoam island and ruins of alph.
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No. I think it needed more effort like the bw2 haunted house or something, something more than just empty places or graveyards

Also the Pokemon Niji Scenario Draft dropped
 
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Which places and why?
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The ones that always worked best on me as a kid were the places where you had an idea something wrong happened, but enough was left up to the imagination to make the worst of it (Emerald Sky Pillar is a lot more imposing than ORAS's, imo). Altering Cave is probably the most extreme example of this, but that's because GF couldn't be bothered to ever do anything with it. Speaking of, being out of the way helps with a location's mystique; you have to go through Lavender Town, but you don't have to go through the Old Chateau. Old Chateau was probably the best of them because it has the benefit of having multiple stuff happening; Rotom, the Gengar, the ghosts you can never interact with, Gardenia hyping it up, etc. Ruins of Alph also did this pretty well by playing with the ancillary mechanics at your disposal by messing with the radio and having your Pokemon start acting weird; generally the less ability someone has to resolve everything in an area with a Pokeball, the better it is. Generally I'd say there are a lot of areas in these games that are good at feeling creepy the first time you'd visit them, but the ones that can keep it up after that first or second visit are a lot more rare.
 
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Glazed they are messing with legendaries and time travel. Curiously the fights and gyms are way harder when they don't limit themselves to johto/kanto shitmons.

I almost got BTFO by Whitney's boyfriend in his gym and there wasn't a milktank in sight


Also Basculegion is saving my ass a lot, good choice for myself to use it
 
One advantage the TCG has over the vidya is that 'mon attacks are more related to what the 'mon is. Like in the vidya, a Snorlax can learn Surf, Blizzard, and Thunder. But in the TCG, seems it is just moves related to how fat or sleepy a Snorlax is, like Body Slam.
 
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